EPTIts honestly not that bad. Its not gona blow you away but at roughly 20 mins of something you can just enjoy mindlessly every week isnt to bad.
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Pakistan10726 Posts
Its honestly not that bad. Its not gona blow you away but at roughly 20 mins of something you can just enjoy mindlessly every week isnt to bad. | ||
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Lucumo
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On February 25 2011 07:39 Sentenal wrote: How is it comparable to Shinji? Lets see, both start off as whiny cowards. Both are thrust into harsh situations where everyone is depending on them. Both have idols they are trying to impress. Both have girl issues. Whats so different? The only difference is that Simon eventually changes, and Shinji does not. Character depth is about internal battles, and why they think the way they do. And you act like Shinji is some paragon of depth for characters, when really hes painfully average. Like others have said, the "child soldier" is no where near exclusive to Shinji, nor is he the only "child soldier" who has lots of personal problems that lead to them being introduced as wusses. Shinji is based on the same type of character as Amuro Ray. If you look at them, Amuro's character and Shinji's character are extremely similar, in both their original personalities, the things expected of them, their past, and their emotions. Like Shinji, Amuro has girl problems. Like Shinji, the weight of the world is placed on Amuro's shoulders, and he almost crumbles under it. Like Shinji, Amuro goes out of his way to try and impress his parents, particularly his father. The only difference between them, is that eventually Amuro grows up. You can't sit here and tell me that Shinji is that different from characters like Amuro, Kamille, or even Kira, in terms of depth. Aww, no. You make me cry, honestly ^^ Do you believe Shinji would have gone to the surface? No, definitely not. That's already a huge difference. Also, he has no idol. He merely wants acknowledgement from his father, it's a father-son relationship. He has no dreams or something like this, he is afraid of everything. He even tries to change during the series but he reverts back to his original self which is understandable. Also, they are the ones who are under attack. They didn't enter enemy territory(TTGL). He is a pathetic person while Simon and Amuro aren't. Amuro boarded the Gundam because the people died and Fraw was crying. He had to do something. Shinji wouldn't have done that. And by the way, he doesn't care about the world, so he hasn't the weight of it on his shoulders. I never said that and I just started watching the original Gundam, so I don't know how he evolves but I already know that he is different(especially his behaviour). Well, I watched Death Note and I will honestly say, that Shinji>Light in terms of depth. No idea who Kamille is. And I started the whole topic because people denied the depth of this character. But meh, I should stop caring. If you(people who deny it) don't want to look into the character, why should I bother about it. I know I have the necessary knowledge to judge the matter in the right way and proving something, when people don't have the means to acknowledge it in the first place, sucks. btw: If you fully understand the "rule of causality", you will understand the difference between those three characters. Though, you will need knowledge of pedagogy/psychology as well which I stated before. /edit: Well, I will just go back to watching Gundam. It's no use when Person A can't/doesn't try to understand what Person B says :/ | ||
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Raelgar
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So lets talk about something interesting now. IS 8 something inside me died when I saw that last scene in the episode. It is just so cliche and retarded. Only good thing so far about IS are the fighting scenes they are animated really good | ||
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Gao Xi
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Spazer
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Charlotte's gender is revealed, jealousy ensues. Laura kisses Ichika, jealousy ensues. They skipped Charlotte's reasons for the big reveal though.  I wonder if we'll get Ichika vs Laura at this rate. | ||
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Pakistan10726 Posts
On February 25 2011 08:33 Raelgar wrote: IS 8 something inside me died when I saw that last scene in the episode. It is just so cliche and retarded. Only good thing so far about IS are the fighting scenes they are animated really good again I have to stress that its just supposed to be base simplified nonsense entertainment. Theres scores of shows that involve good character progression and depth in plot Im sure you havent exhausted all of them if you want something more intellectually stimulating. | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
Goddamn brooms. | ||
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Lucumo
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On February 25 2011 08:33 Raelgar wrote: Lucumo you are so superior and I am deeply humbled by your generous investment of time that you did to teach us lower creatures the value of NGE. Thank you for your kind words. Too bad I was talking about Shinji and not NGE. I suggest you will actually read what I write next time or completely ignore it  | ||
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Spazer
Canada8036 Posts
On February 25 2011 08:44 Ecael wrote: Why watch IS for anything but the general harem stuff with Charlotte getting preferential treatment over everyone but a broom? Goddamn brooms. I thought Chifuyu had the advantage.  | ||
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Sentenal
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On February 25 2011 08:24 Lucumo wrote: Aww, no. You make me cry, honestly ^^ Do you believe Shinji would have gone to the surface? No, definitely not. That's already a huge difference. Also, he has no idol. He merely wants acknowledgement from his father, it's a father-son relationship. He has no dreams or something like this, he is afraid of everything. He even tries to change during the series but he reverts back to his original self which is understandable. Also, they are the ones who are under attack. They didn't enter enemy territory(TTGL). He is a pathetic person while Simon and Amuro aren't. Amuro boarded the Gundam because the people died and Fraw was crying. He had to do something. Shinji wouldn't have done that. And by the way, he doesn't care about the world, so he hasn't the weight of it on his shoulders. I never said that and I just started watching the original Gundam, so I don't know how he evolves but I already know that he is different(especially his behaviour). Well, I watched Death Note and I will honestly say, that Shinji>Light in terms of depth. No idea who Kamille is. And I started the whole topic because people denied the depth of this character. But meh, I should stop caring. If you(people who deny it) don't want to look into the character, why should I bother about it. I know I have the necessary knowledge to judge the matter in the right way and proving something, when people don't have the means to acknowledge it in the first place, sucks. btw: If you fully understand the "rule of causality", you will understand the difference between those three characters. Though, you will need knowledge of pedagogy/psychology as well which I stated before. /edit: Well, I will just go back to watching Gundam. It's no use when Person A can't/doesn't try to understand what Person B says :/ The hypocrisy in this post is too much. Keep on deluding yourself and belittling people who disagree. I finally got my Revolver Stake in IS!!!! Best episode in the show. Someone should put Steel Beowulf over that that scene to make it even better. | ||
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Raelgar
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On February 25 2011 08:44 Ecael wrote: Why watch IS for anything but the general harem stuff with Charlotte getting preferential treatment over everyone but a broom? Goddamn brooms. Laura just going "oh make my your bride" for no apparent reason just gave me the final push to drop this crap again. On February 25 2011 08:44 Lucumo wrote: Thank you for your kind words. Too bad I was talking about Shinji and not NGE. I suggest you will actually read what I write next time or completely ignore it you should stop bitching about small details it doesnt really improve your image On February 25 2011 09:08 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: I don't get it...a character has to start off like a wuss and become some macho man to be called "deep?" What the hell? What's wrong with a static character...? Someone doesn't have to be dynamic to be a good character -___- I find it super retarded and cliche, in fact, when a character starts off like a wuss, goes emo, then eventually "mans up" and stops being emo and starts being super man. in the end it's all about how you present it. Coming up with a compeltly new and original character and setting is nearly impossible, so you have to focus more on how you present your take on the allready done stuff. That's why we like Madoka here, not because it's another generic mahou shoujo, but because madoka is able to bring a new light into that genre and present it in a different way then it predecessors. Wussy male leads is something the whole anime industry seems to struggle with. A duche character like Ichika is needed to build up a harem anime that doesnt end up in a sex scene or like school days. In other genres the retard characters like Shinji and the dude from FSN are mostly due to an attempt at forcing certain morals on the character which he developed due to some tragic stuff in his past leading to him being a retard | ||
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Raelgar
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On February 25 2011 09:18 Ecael wrote: So for a wimp to man up is cliche and a static character is just a wimp, what does that leave us with? The actual entertainment value, I'd say. I'd rather watch Amuro over Shinji for sure. I think there is entertainment in both, though I have to admit that I prefer static characters with a background | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
On February 25 2011 09:21 Raelgar wrote: I think there is entertainment in both, though I have to admit that I prefer static characters with a background The length that I have to put up with a static character is probably the determining factor, for all the reasons bestowed upon Shinji, putting up with it for a whole series and a couple of OVA and movies? Shoot me. | ||
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Raelgar
104 Posts
On February 25 2011 09:25 Ecael wrote: The length that I have to put up with a static character is probably the determining factor, for all the reasons bestowed upon Shinji, putting up with it for a whole series and a couple of OVA and movies? Shoot me. yes I agree, it depends on how much time is spend with that character. If you see them all the time of course it gets old and downright annoying, but when it's held to a good level I think it's easier to relate and identify to these characters because they give you the chance of building up that relationship without making the viewer reevaluate that because of some new development in the character. | ||
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Lucumo
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On February 25 2011 09:08 Raelgar wrote: you should stop bitching about small details it doesnt really improve your image And you should stop bitching when you haven't even participated in the discussion. So I could say the same. Too bad this kinda stuff leads to nothing, still don't know why you posted in the first place(well, I guess it was a poor attempt to attack me(which worked apparently, I'm responding after all -.-)). On February 25 2011 09:08 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: I don't get it...a character has to start off like a wuss and become some macho man to be called "deep?" What the hell? What's wrong with a static character...? Someone doesn't have to be dynamic to be a good character -___- I find it super retarded and cliche, in fact, when a character starts off like a wuss, goes emo, then eventually "mans up" and stops being emo and starts being super man. I already thought I'm the only one who doesn't think that the depth of a character is mostly related to the progression of said one. On February 25 2011 09:25 Ecael wrote: The length that I have to put up with a static character is probably the determining factor, for all the reasons bestowed upon Shinji, putting up with it for a whole series and a couple of OVA and movies? Shoot me. As I said, it isn't static. There is character development going on...until the point when he reverts back to his old self. Still, the development isn't much but it's not like one could expect more. It was with the help of that woman btw, can't remember the name anymore, would need to look it up. | ||
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Ecael
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Honestly I had more fun reading textbooks than watching Eva. | ||
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