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Let me ask you this. In every one of the animes you listed, would they have sold well at all if they didn't have
1) cleavage
2) scantily clad girls
3) sex
Can you honestly tell me that viewers would care about any of them at all without those things? And don't lie because you're biased towards them.
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They sold well? My, my, our definitions of "selling well" must differ 
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in case you didn't get it, all of those are pre-96, so you're telling me the '96 anime you love are all good sells because of cleavage, sex, etc.? Yeah, our tastes and methods of grading anime just differ. Sorry.
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On February 25 2011 05:41 tonight wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 05:39 RoosterSamurai wrote:On February 25 2011 05:37 Ferrose wrote:On February 25 2011 05:28 RoosterSamurai wrote:On February 25 2011 05:27 Ferrose wrote:On February 25 2011 05:25 emc wrote:On February 25 2011 05:24 Ferrose wrote:On February 25 2011 05:22 emc wrote:On February 25 2011 05:18 triangle wrote:
Add me to the list of people who watched Evangelion and came away with a giant "meh".
It wasn't even that thought provoking for me, there are lots of other shows out there that I find way more interesting in terms of the ideas that they present. any anime in 1995 or before that had such depth. Legend of the Galactic Heroes.  I don't know if you are serious because of the smiley face, but if you are I'll check it out. No trust me, I am totally serious. You won't find many (if at all) well-made shows with such depth even today. Your post makes it sound like anime today is better than anime circa 1996, which is most definitely is not. =/ Go back to before 1996, and you will find just as much shit as we have today. It's just different kinds of shit. Obviously they didn't have lovelove moemoe back in the 80s. Anime before 1996 was just more memorable than the garbage we have today. Memorable maybee because you were young, but anime now is much better then anime then on almost every level.
This whole thing about anime being better now or then is pointless, its all opinion. You are just as crazy for definitely saying anime now is better on every level, just as much as he is crazy for saying anime from the 80s/90s is more memorable than anime now.
The only things that have progressed since back then is production quality (simply due to improving technology), and even then, modern things can be animated like shit. Things like pacing/plot/character design are all things that are opinion based.
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On February 25 2011 05:49 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 05:41 tonight wrote:On February 25 2011 05:39 RoosterSamurai wrote:On February 25 2011 05:37 Ferrose wrote:On February 25 2011 05:28 RoosterSamurai wrote:On February 25 2011 05:27 Ferrose wrote:On February 25 2011 05:25 emc wrote:On February 25 2011 05:24 Ferrose wrote:On February 25 2011 05:22 emc wrote:On February 25 2011 05:18 triangle wrote:
Add me to the list of people who watched Evangelion and came away with a giant "meh".
It wasn't even that thought provoking for me, there are lots of other shows out there that I find way more interesting in terms of the ideas that they present. any anime in 1995 or before that had such depth. Legend of the Galactic Heroes. I don't know if you are serious because of the smiley face, but if you are I'll check it out. No trust me, I am totally serious. You won't find many (if at all) well-made shows with such depth even today. Your post makes it sound like anime today is better than anime circa 1996, which is most definitely is not. =/ Go back to before 1996, and you will find just as much shit as we have today. It's just different kinds of shit. Obviously they didn't have lovelove moemoe back in the 80s. Anime before 1996 was just more memorable than the garbage we have today. Memorable maybee because you were young, but anime now is much better then anime then on almost every level. This whole thing about anime being better now or then is pointless, its all opinion. You are just as crazy for definitely saying anime now is better on every level, just as much as he is crazy for saying anime from the 80s/90s is more memorable than anime now. The only things that have progressed since back then is production quality (simply due to improving technology), and even then, modern things can be animated like shit. Things like pacing/plot/character design are all things that are opinion based.
Also, anime now has a lot more sex than anime did back then.
Let me ask this: In 5 years who will remember princess minky momo, and who will remember Rurouni Kenshin, or NGE?
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I trolled this guy so hard and he doesn't even realize it hahahah. I wasn't trying to be combative but this is hard 
For the record, my stance on anime by years was and still is
On February 25 2011 05:29 Southlight wrote:
Numerically it's around the same in terms of quality, although that's obviously always going to be in the eye of the beholder.
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I would say the golden decade of anime was from 1996-2005 :-P
Also, why are people bashing NGE? I watched it back then and it's definitely a great anime(rated it 8/10). Especially the complaints about the main character are funny. I guess some people here prefer to watch some shitty, generic main character rather than some guy with depth.
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On February 25 2011 05:54 Lucumo wrote:
I would say the golden decade of anime was from 1996-2005 :-P
Also, why are people bashing NGE? I watched it back then and it's definitely a great anime(rated it 8/10). Especially the complaints about the main character are funny. I guess some people here prefer to watch some shitty, generic main character rather than some guy with depth.
You're missing the 1994 animes though. Rurouni Kenshin and Yuyu Hakusho =/
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I dunno if a guy that cries, whines, and never grows up an entire series shows much more depth than being a wuss, but that's okay, you can bash on people who critique. Seriously, why do people feel the need to bash other people when someone criticizes something they liked?
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On February 25 2011 05:51 RoosterSamurai wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 05:49 Sentenal wrote:On February 25 2011 05:41 tonight wrote:On February 25 2011 05:39 RoosterSamurai wrote:On February 25 2011 05:37 Ferrose wrote:On February 25 2011 05:28 RoosterSamurai wrote:On February 25 2011 05:27 Ferrose wrote:On February 25 2011 05:25 emc wrote:On February 25 2011 05:24 Ferrose wrote:On February 25 2011 05:22 emc wrote:
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any anime in 1995 or before that had such depth. Legend of the Galactic Heroes. I don't know if you are serious because of the smiley face, but if you are I'll check it out. No trust me, I am totally serious. You won't find many (if at all) well-made shows with such depth even today. Your post makes it sound like anime today is better than anime circa 1996, which is most definitely is not. =/ Go back to before 1996, and you will find just as much shit as we have today. It's just different kinds of shit. Obviously they didn't have lovelove moemoe back in the 80s. Anime before 1996 was just more memorable than the garbage we have today. Memorable maybee because you were young, but anime now is much better then anime then on almost every level. This whole thing about anime being better now or then is pointless, its all opinion. You are just as crazy for definitely saying anime now is better on every level, just as much as he is crazy for saying anime from the 80s/90s is more memorable than anime now. The only things that have progressed since back then is production quality (simply due to improving technology), and even then, modern things can be animated like shit. Things like pacing/plot/character design are all things that are opinion based. Also, anime now has a lot more sex than anime did back then. Let me ask this: In 5 years who will remember princess minky momo, and who will remember Rurouni Kenshin, or NGE?
In 5 years I can guarantee people will remember shows like Haruhi, Lucky Star, K-On, Gurren Lagann, Code Geass, and Death Note. And [insert popular anime here] as well.
I tend to prefer anime from the 80s/90s myself, but you can't just say anime from the 80s/90s is more memorable than anime now. I fall into the trap of saying anime sucks now, when in reality I'm selectively talking about the top anime titles made in the span of 20 years, and comparing it to all the different seasonal anime now. Of course, most anime that gets released now is average or bad. But there are still gems that get released. You can look back on the last 10 years of anime, and compare it to the 90s, and I think that objectively they are relatively the same.
Especially the complaints about the main character are funny. I guess some people here prefer to watch some shitty, generic main character rather than some guy with depth.
Oh yeah, Shinji has so much depth. I'd take him over someone like Nagare Ryoma any day.
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On February 25 2011 05:48 RoosterSamurai wrote:Let me ask you this. In every one of the animes you listed, would they have sold well at all if they didn't have 1) cleavage 2) scantily clad girls 3) sex Can you honestly tell me that viewers would care about any of them at all without those things? And don't lie because you're biased towards them.
On February 25 2011 05:51 RoosterSamurai wrote:
Also, anime now has a lot more sex than anime did back then.
Let me ask this: In 5 years who will remember princess minky momo, and who will remember Rurouni Kenshin, or NGE?
I needed to quote these because I'm not gonna let this go, hahah. This is hilarious.
Also RuroKen anime IIRC is generally considered purty bad, especially past the uhhh mummy dude's arc. The OVA was wonderful though. Also it's really hard to say that RuroKen would be as accepted today as it was then; it was ground-breaking sure, and captivated a lot of hearts, but nowadays it would be considered a generic Meiji story. There're LOTS of better manga of the same genre these days, like SIDOOH and Vagabond. The RK main characters have more plot armor than Bleach, and it's a very standard Shounen Jump formula.
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On February 25 2011 05:59 dronebabo wrote:
uh thats the manga
I was talking about the series in general. Didn't know that manga was restricted in the anime thread =/
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On February 25 2011 06:01 Southlight wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 05:48 RoosterSamurai wrote:Let me ask you this. In every one of the animes you listed, would they have sold well at all if they didn't have 1) cleavage 2) scantily clad girls 3) sex Can you honestly tell me that viewers would care about any of them at all without those things? And don't lie because you're biased towards them. Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 05:51 RoosterSamurai wrote:
Also, anime now has a lot more sex than anime did back then.
Let me ask this: In 5 years who will remember princess minky momo, and who will remember Rurouni Kenshin, or NGE? I needed to quote these because I'm not gonna let this go, hahah. This is hilarious. Also RuroKen anime IIRC is generally considered purty bad, especially past the uhhh mummy dude's arc. The OVA was wonderful though. Also it's really hard to say that RuroKen would be as accepted today as it was then; it was ground-breaking sure, and captivated a lot of hearts, but nowadays it would be considered a generic Meiji story. There're LOTS of better manga of the same genre these days, like SIDOOH and Vagabond. The RK main characters have more plot armor than Bleach, and it's a very standard Shounen Jump formula.
I don't disagree that RK sucked ass past the shishio (mummy guy as you refer to him) arc, but that was because the series had a different writer, who drove the series right into the ground.
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there is no time where anime was better. You have good animes in every time and being picky about old animes and then saying they were all great is just stupid. You will always have bad and good ones.
You guys sound like old grannies who tell each other how much better it was in the past.
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On February 25 2011 06:02 Raelgar wrote:
there is no time where anime was better. You have good animes in every time and being picky about old animes and then saying they were all great is just stupid. You will always have bad and good ones.
You guys sound like old grannies who tell each other how much better it was in the past.
I suppose you're right; I guess I can only hope that there will eventually be an era in anime that suits me once again. I'm very picky, and I don't like ANY sex or much gore in my animes.
I guess you guys hate my by now, but have you got any suggestions for me?
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On February 25 2011 05:56 RoosterSamurai wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 05:54 Lucumo wrote:
I would say the golden decade of anime was from 1996-2005 :-P
Also, why are people bashing NGE? I watched it back then and it's definitely a great anime(rated it 8/10). Especially the complaints about the main character are funny. I guess some people here prefer to watch some shitty, generic main character rather than some guy with depth. You're missing the 1994 animes though. Rurouni Kenshin and Yuyu Hakusho =/
On February 25 2011 06:01 RoosterSamurai wrote:I was talking about the series in general. Didn't know that manga was restricted in the anime thread =/
LOL
I think you need to take a break, you are kinda getting beasted in this thread right now.
As for suggestions, saying you like 90s anime doesn't really amount to much, give me genres of anime you like. I might be able to think of some recommendations.
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