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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
April 14 2022 15:31 GMT
#128821
I binge watched 86 while sick. Was alright. Kind of weird how in the second season they spend like half the time trying to justify why it's okay for child soldiers to return to the battlefield, but I mean...it's not really a war anime without a little of weird jingoism and military fetishism, so it was a fun enough time.
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 14 2022 16:05 GMT
#128822
On April 14 2022 03:58 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Another I forgot to add is Shijou Saikyou no Daimaou, Murabito A ni Tensei suru. The demon lord reincarnated one. Second episode is good enough to warrant I go through the rest of the season.
Is that new? From the trailer, I thought it was a remake of that reincarnating demon lord who is being fought over by two schoolgirls, from a few seasons ago, I forgot its name. Even the name and appearance is the same. As already said, I don't like power fantansies, and I can't see how this would not be one. Skipped.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
April 14 2022 18:28 GMT
#128823
On April 15 2022 01:05 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2022 03:58 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Another I forgot to add is Shijou Saikyou no Daimaou, Murabito A ni Tensei suru. The demon lord reincarnated one. Second episode is good enough to warrant I go through the rest of the season.
Is that new? From the trailer, I thought it was a remake of that reincarnating demon lord who is being fought over by two schoolgirls, from a few seasons ago, I forgot its name. Even the name and appearance is the same. As already said, I don't like power fantansies, and I can't see how this would not be one. Skipped.

This is a different one from the one you're talking about. It's a power fantasy but not through the MCs fault. It's interesting imo but hey, won't push it on ya.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8683 Posts
April 14 2022 19:43 GMT
#128824
On April 15 2022 03:28 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2022 01:05 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On April 14 2022 03:58 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Another I forgot to add is Shijou Saikyou no Daimaou, Murabito A ni Tensei suru. The demon lord reincarnated one. Second episode is good enough to warrant I go through the rest of the season.
Is that new? From the trailer, I thought it was a remake of that reincarnating demon lord who is being fought over by two schoolgirls, from a few seasons ago, I forgot its name. Even the name and appearance is the same. As already said, I don't like power fantansies, and I can't see how this would not be one. Skipped.

This is a different one from the one you're talking about. It's a power fantasy but not through the MCs fault. It's interesting imo but hey, won't push it on ya.


Power fantasies are usually the MC's fault? I thought they are the author's fault.

I decided to pick up 3-gatsu s2 again and was instantly reminded what I really liked and what I really disliked about the show. The emotional parts are really well done, especially visually and musically. However, the constant need for comedic relief is so obnoxious. How am I supposed to delve into those emotions when I constantly need to brace myself to get hit in the face by slapstick?
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
April 15 2022 02:58 GMT
#128825
SUMMERTIME RENDER just aired and I am declaring this show to be the best anime of the season.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8683 Posts
April 15 2022 06:52 GMT
#128826
On April 15 2022 11:58 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
SUMMERTIME RENDER just aired and I am declaring this show to be the best anime of the season.


Isn't that a bit too soon? Especially for a mystery show? I like mysteries but unfortunately most mystery shows drop the ball sooner or later, even if they start out decently. What is so good about it?
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-15 10:33:04
April 15 2022 10:20 GMT
#128827
On April 15 2022 03:28 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2022 01:05 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On April 14 2022 03:58 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Another I forgot to add is Shijou Saikyou no Daimaou, Murabito A ni Tensei suru. The demon lord reincarnated one. Second episode is good enough to warrant I go through the rest of the season.
Is that new? From the trailer, I thought it was a remake of that reincarnating demon lord who is being fought over by two schoolgirls, from a few seasons ago, I forgot its name. Even the name and appearance is the same. As already said, I don't like power fantansies, and I can't see how this would not be one. Skipped.

This is a different one from the one you're talking about. It's a power fantasy but not through the MCs fault. It's interesting imo but hey, won't push it on ya.
It's not a remake? I guess it's just a coincidence what with the same name and everything. Then again one year we somehow had 2 animes that had generic black haired highschoolboy in a modern era magic school paired with a genius red haired princess with fire powers wielding a fire sword.

Also, whatever happened to waiting 3 episodes or end of season before declaring best of season lol.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
April 15 2022 12:09 GMT
#128828
On April 15 2022 11:58 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
SUMMERTIME RENDER just aired and I am declaring this show to be the best anime of the season.


Isn't this a Japanese Disney + exclusive?
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
April 15 2022 15:01 GMT
#128829
On April 15 2022 15:52 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2022 11:58 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
SUMMERTIME RENDER just aired and I am declaring this show to be the best anime of the season.


Isn't that a bit too soon? Especially for a mystery show? I like mysteries but unfortunately most mystery shows drop the ball sooner or later, even if they start out decently. What is so good about it?

I get Higurashi vibes from this one. Art style is on point. VA is exceptional. Story is unique (afaik). This is the kind of show that isn't like anything you've seen recently so it's really fresh. I say I get Higurashi vibes mostly because of the atmosphere after the title card appears. It felt like everything just shifted into a different gear.
On April 15 2022 19:20 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2022 03:28 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
On April 15 2022 01:05 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On April 14 2022 03:58 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Another I forgot to add is Shijou Saikyou no Daimaou, Murabito A ni Tensei suru. The demon lord reincarnated one. Second episode is good enough to warrant I go through the rest of the season.
Is that new? From the trailer, I thought it was a remake of that reincarnating demon lord who is being fought over by two schoolgirls, from a few seasons ago, I forgot its name. Even the name and appearance is the same. As already said, I don't like power fantansies, and I can't see how this would not be one. Skipped.

This is a different one from the one you're talking about. It's a power fantasy but not through the MCs fault. It's interesting imo but hey, won't push it on ya.
It's not a remake? I guess it's just a coincidence what with the same name and everything. Then again one year we somehow had 2 animes that had generic black haired highschoolboy in a modern era magic school paired with a genius red haired princess with fire powers wielding a fire sword.

Also, whatever happened to waiting 3 episodes or end of season before declaring best of season lol.

It has very similar themes but the execution is much different than the demon lord in high school one. The MC in this one is doing what he can to not bring attention to himself but somehow everyone just got weaker so it's inevitable. There isn't a redhead with a flame sword in this yet. I have a feeling that the story is being rushed somewhat (but I can't confirm without reading the manga). These two episodes I don't feel annoyed by having a cocky OP MC being shoved into our faces constantly (Anos Voldigoad was just hilarious exception).

And yeah...I wanted to wait for more but Summertime Render just hit pretty hard with that first episode. The ending to that one had me legit blinking in disbelief.
On April 15 2022 21:09 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2022 11:58 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
SUMMERTIME RENDER just aired and I am declaring this show to be the best anime of the season.


Isn't this a Japanese Disney + exclusive?

No clue.
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden913 Posts
April 17 2022 08:14 GMT
#128830
Spy x family ep2 was great. Can understand people hypeing this one up for aots
Hira2
Profile Joined April 2022
Pakistan3 Posts
April 17 2022 08:36 GMT
#128831
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
April 17 2022 15:31 GMT
#128832
On April 15 2022 00:31 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I binge watched 86 while sick. Was alright. Kind of weird how in the second season they spend like half the time trying to justify why it's okay for child soldiers to return to the battlefield, but I mean...it's not really a war anime without a little of weird jingoism and military fetishism, so it was a fun enough time.


The crux of the argument wasn't why it was okay for them to return. The whole point was whether they should be given the choice or not. The problem being that their choice would obviously be going back to the one life they know. Would the Federacy be any better than the Republic if they forced them to have lives they didn't want, even if they're in the right to not want them to fight? Also the whole backdrop of, there's no where to run there's no where to hide, the Legion will win eventually and the main squad knows it (at least at that point, the LNs are quite a bit further ahead and well worth the read).

I'd argue it was actually really well set up and as a series, tries to ignore typical military fetishism as best as one can in a war story.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-17 19:14:28
April 17 2022 19:12 GMT
#128833
On April 18 2022 00:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2022 00:31 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I binge watched 86 while sick. Was alright. Kind of weird how in the second season they spend like half the time trying to justify why it's okay for child soldiers to return to the battlefield, but I mean...it's not really a war anime without a little of weird jingoism and military fetishism, so it was a fun enough time.


The crux of the argument wasn't why it was okay for them to return. The whole point was whether they should be given the choice or not. The problem being that their choice would obviously be going back to the one life they know. Would the Federacy be any better than the Republic if they forced them to have lives they didn't want, even if they're in the right to not want them to fight? Also the whole backdrop of, there's no where to run there's no where to hide, the Legion will win eventually and the main squad knows it (at least at that point, the LNs are quite a bit further ahead and well worth the read).

I'd argue it was actually really well set up and as a series, tries to ignore typical military fetishism as best as one can in a war story.
I don't think child soldiers can make rational choices about whether or not they want to return to a warzone, and yes, I think a country that forces child soldiers to not be child soldiers is better than a country that forces child soldiers to be child soldiers. It's not a really engaging moral problem to me. Show was fine for what it is, and trying to fix the weird justifications would essentially result in there not being a story, so there's no helping it.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8683 Posts
April 17 2022 20:00 GMT
#128834
On April 18 2022 04:12 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2022 00:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On April 15 2022 00:31 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I binge watched 86 while sick. Was alright. Kind of weird how in the second season they spend like half the time trying to justify why it's okay for child soldiers to return to the battlefield, but I mean...it's not really a war anime without a little of weird jingoism and military fetishism, so it was a fun enough time.


The crux of the argument wasn't why it was okay for them to return. The whole point was whether they should be given the choice or not. The problem being that their choice would obviously be going back to the one life they know. Would the Federacy be any better than the Republic if they forced them to have lives they didn't want, even if they're in the right to not want them to fight? Also the whole backdrop of, there's no where to run there's no where to hide, the Legion will win eventually and the main squad knows it (at least at that point, the LNs are quite a bit further ahead and well worth the read).

I'd argue it was actually really well set up and as a series, tries to ignore typical military fetishism as best as one can in a war story.
I don't think child soldiers can make rational choices about whether or not they want to return to a warzone, and yes, I think a country that forces child soldiers to not be child soldiers is better than a country that forces child soldiers to be child soldiers. It's not a really engaging moral problem to me. Show was fine for what it is, and trying to fix the weird justifications would essentially result in there not being a story, so there's no helping it.


They could have added another season of them dealing with PTSD instead.

Tbh, I put this show on ptw a month ago or so after reading good things about it but this sounds super off-putting...
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-17 20:20:08
April 17 2022 20:17 GMT
#128835
On April 18 2022 04:12 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2022 00:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On April 15 2022 00:31 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I binge watched 86 while sick. Was alright. Kind of weird how in the second season they spend like half the time trying to justify why it's okay for child soldiers to return to the battlefield, but I mean...it's not really a war anime without a little of weird jingoism and military fetishism, so it was a fun enough time.


The crux of the argument wasn't why it was okay for them to return. The whole point was whether they should be given the choice or not. The problem being that their choice would obviously be going back to the one life they know. Would the Federacy be any better than the Republic if they forced them to have lives they didn't want, even if they're in the right to not want them to fight? Also the whole backdrop of, there's no where to run there's no where to hide, the Legion will win eventually and the main squad knows it (at least at that point, the LNs are quite a bit further ahead and well worth the read).

I'd argue it was actually really well set up and as a series, tries to ignore typical military fetishism as best as one can in a war story.
I don't think child soldiers can make rational choices about whether or not they want to return to a warzone, and yes, I think a country that forces child soldiers to not be child soldiers is better than a country that forces child soldiers to be child soldiers. It's not a really engaging moral problem to me. Show was fine for what it is, and trying to fix the weird justifications would essentially result in there not being a story, so there's no helping it.



I do think that that ignores the second half of the issue being that the Legion, even prior to Morpho reveal, would 100% win eventually. So it wasn't black and white given the "force them to live in peace" would equally be sentencing them to death (given they knew that the Legion would be doing the full offensive shortly). It was more of "force them to live in peace until they're forced to die" not "force them to not be child soldiers".

But I definitely agree that the plot just doesn't happen if they just accept being done with the war so that was never a "real" option.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8035 Posts
April 18 2022 00:21 GMT
#128836
On April 18 2022 05:00 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2022 04:12 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On April 18 2022 00:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On April 15 2022 00:31 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I binge watched 86 while sick. Was alright. Kind of weird how in the second season they spend like half the time trying to justify why it's okay for child soldiers to return to the battlefield, but I mean...it's not really a war anime without a little of weird jingoism and military fetishism, so it was a fun enough time.


The crux of the argument wasn't why it was okay for them to return. The whole point was whether they should be given the choice or not. The problem being that their choice would obviously be going back to the one life they know. Would the Federacy be any better than the Republic if they forced them to have lives they didn't want, even if they're in the right to not want them to fight? Also the whole backdrop of, there's no where to run there's no where to hide, the Legion will win eventually and the main squad knows it (at least at that point, the LNs are quite a bit further ahead and well worth the read).

I'd argue it was actually really well set up and as a series, tries to ignore typical military fetishism as best as one can in a war story.
I don't think child soldiers can make rational choices about whether or not they want to return to a warzone, and yes, I think a country that forces child soldiers to not be child soldiers is better than a country that forces child soldiers to be child soldiers. It's not a really engaging moral problem to me. Show was fine for what it is, and trying to fix the weird justifications would essentially result in there not being a story, so there's no helping it.


They could have added another season of them dealing with PTSD instead.

Tbh, I put this show on ptw a month ago or so after reading good things about it but this sounds super off-putting...

The plot and general writing is not a good reason to watch 86 - at best, it's passable. The direction and execution is more where it stands out.
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-19 00:43:32
April 19 2022 00:42 GMT
#128837
I will also add that 86's best (story wise) is yet to come and that these first two cours make up the 3rd/4th best Arcs imo. I'm mostly worried for the anime if there's going to be a season 2 because the next Arc isn't even close to as good as the one immediately following it. So if they spend a full cour on book 4 I think that might turn people off before one of the best arcs in the story.

The execution, animation, soundtrack, and dedication to source material are absolutely top notch. You just have to like that notch lol
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
April 19 2022 01:35 GMT
#128838
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4209 Posts
April 22 2022 06:05 GMT
#128839
spy x family is just so adorable. the twist with the ring in the 2nd episode made me giddy
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
April 22 2022 12:45 GMT
#128840
Second ep of Summertime Render confirms my declaration. It's too good.
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