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abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1946 Posts
May 04 2018 19:57 GMT
#125801
honestly sounds and is like complete bullshit to me, because I know plenty of people who had code geass as their first or second anime and they loved it.
I am also one such person.

Opinions are great and all, but don't try to make them fact.
Why did I even come here, jesus.
I don't believe you.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
May 04 2018 19:58 GMT
#125802
I still say Ghost in the Shell 1995 movie would be solid.
Never Knows Best.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
May 04 2018 20:21 GMT
#125803
No one is saying that Code Geass isn't a good "first or second anime", or good for people who haven't watched anime before. Its just that if the reason why someone hasn't watched anime before because they think anime is cringey and silly, recommending an anime that thrives on cringe and silliness is just weird.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
May 04 2018 20:46 GMT
#125804
For introducing someone to anime just pick whatever Ghibli movie you think they'd like. Is this even up for discussion? lol

If you want a show then for what it's worth the handful of girls I know who watch anime all like Rurouni Kenshin.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
May 04 2018 21:22 GMT
#125805
On May 05 2018 01:02 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Whatever happened to recommending school days net you an instant ban?

can't get banned if you can't get reported, and also you're the admin that does the banning...
On May 05 2018 04:57 abuse wrote:
honestly sounds and is like complete bullshit to me, because I know plenty of people who had code geass as their first or second anime and they loved it.
I am also one such person.

Opinions are great and all, but don't try to make them fact.
Why did I even come here, jesus.

Honestly, it looks like you've already made up your mind to show them Death Note and Code Geass despite what others tell you. She's your friend and no one in here honestly gives a shit about what her opinion of anime is because we'll never meet her in real life.

So show her Death Note and Code Geass for all any one cares. Hell, show her School Days too. Nothing cringy or silly about that either...

Like Toad said in his talks, you know the person best, show them whatever the fuck you like.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-04 22:06:05
May 04 2018 22:05 GMT
#125806
On May 05 2018 04:57 abuse wrote:
honestly sounds and is like complete bullshit to me, because I know plenty of people who had code geass as their first or second anime and they loved it.
I am also one such person.

Opinions are great and all, but don't try to make them fact.
Why did I even come here, jesus.


if you think she'll like code geass and death note which are very anime and basically thrives on how silly they are, then you should just go show it to her. It just sounds odd because we have no idea what you meant when you said she says she doesn't like silly or cringey stuff. Cause i seriously doubt she hates silly and cringey stuff if she is a nerd.

unless we're talking about modern hipster nerds that watch rick and morty and game of thrones.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18749 Posts
May 04 2018 22:24 GMT
#125807
On May 05 2018 07:05 IceHism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2018 04:57 abuse wrote:
honestly sounds and is like complete bullshit to me, because I know plenty of people who had code geass as their first or second anime and they loved it.
I am also one such person.

Opinions are great and all, but don't try to make them fact.
Why did I even come here, jesus.


if you think she'll like code geass and death note which are very anime and basically thrives on how silly they are, then you should just go show it to her. It just sounds odd because we have no idea what you meant when you said she says she doesn't like silly or cringey stuff. Cause i seriously doubt she hates silly and cringey stuff if she is a nerd.

unless we're talking about modern hipster nerds that watch rick and morty and game of thrones.


nowadays anyone who watched big bang theory is called a nerd
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4243 Posts
May 04 2018 22:38 GMT
#125808
I'd recommend FMA or Death Note. Listing her favorite books, games, tv shows and movies would be helpful.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 04 2018 23:56 GMT
#125809
If someone already watches cartoons, without the bias that they're 1) for kids, and 2) gag comedy shows (aka. Simpsons, Family Guy), then basically just stop treating it as "introducing them to anime". It's literally just cartoons from another country.

I got into anime because it was broadcast on the same network where I watched Transformers and Batman:TAS. Either DBZ or Gundam Wing was the first series I saw (discounting something like Samurai Pizza Cats). It really wasn't a step away from my existing viewing habits.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
May 05 2018 00:18 GMT
#125810
Isn't introducing someone to anime these days more of a "there's more than harems, mechas and DBZ" kinda thing?
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
May 05 2018 00:43 GMT
#125811
Idk if my opinion matters, but I watched CG as one of my gateway animes and it didn’t stick with me.

I enjoyed HoTD more and managed to finish that instead.
Skol
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 05 2018 01:08 GMT
#125812
On May 05 2018 09:18 Jek wrote:
Isn't introducing someone to anime these days more of a "there's more than harems, mechas and DBZ" kinda thing?

I mean then you're just introducing someone to Michael Bay when all they watch is RomComs.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-05 01:38:09
May 05 2018 01:36 GMT
#125813
On May 05 2018 07:05 IceHism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2018 04:57 abuse wrote:
honestly sounds and is like complete bullshit to me, because I know plenty of people who had code geass as their first or second anime and they loved it.
I am also one such person.

Opinions are great and all, but don't try to make them fact.
Why did I even come here, jesus.


if you think she'll like code geass and death note which are very anime and basically thrives on how silly they are, then you should just go show it to her. It just sounds odd because we have no idea what you meant when you said she says she doesn't like silly or cringey stuff. Cause i seriously doubt she hates silly and cringey stuff if she is a nerd.

unless we're talking about modern hipster nerds that watch rick and morty and game of thrones.


that's just the thing.
at no point did I say that I'd go with either of those two options, I said those were my picks. Then it gets made fun of, and I get told that "nobody is saying that they are bad for first or second anime" while that is what the entire question was about in the first place.
I also said several times that i'm thankful for the opinions and I would take them into account, and we'd look into them thoroughly and work something out, yet people here love spinning it in a way that I will show her code geass and that's that.
I also never said that she likes or doesn't like silly or cringy stuff, I said she thinks that all anime is that, without watching them, because stereotypes.

People here like assuming fuck knows what and trying to inflate things to preposterous amounts to suit their thought, and I always end up like an asshole when I come here and just end up regretting it.
I'm just done with this place.
I don't believe you.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 05 2018 01:43 GMT
#125814
Marty complex over anime, smh.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8707 Posts
May 05 2018 05:54 GMT
#125815
Just read up on all this and no, people just give you their take on your picks according to the information you gave them. I think their arguments are sound...
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
May 05 2018 06:02 GMT
#125816
I agree with everything that's been said about code geass being a shitty anime to show someone who thinks anime is cringy and weird.
In that regard code geass is probably one step away from just picking a straight up ecchi harem series honestly. In which case i'll recommend highschool DxD.

Plus i think code geass is bad, but that's another point entirely.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-05 06:08:21
May 05 2018 06:04 GMT
#125817
I tend to agree with Miragee here, everyone's arguments are pretty sound considering this was mentioned:

On May 05 2018 00:21 abuse wrote:
What is a good first anime for a non-close minded girl who has never really gotten into anime, but has the impression that anime is all cringe and silly stuff.

While I personally liked CG, I don't think I can watch it again. There was some bs right smack in the middle of it and it left a bad impression even till now. Not sure I would recommend it to someone who has the impression that anime is all cringe and silly stuff because CG is the definition of that.

Death note is probably a better option though past 2/3rd or so, it gets incredibly stupid: + Show Spoiler +
When L died, for me, Light won at that point. The anime having someone else come and take over to catch Light was just terrible. Why not just leave it at Light winning? It just never had the same impact unfortunately. Still, an enjoyable watch overall.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
May 05 2018 06:28 GMT
#125818
Fate/Zero might have been a decent choice. If I was reading his intent accurately he was looking for something that wasn't so "anime" which obviously some are more so then others. People did get a little too tunnel visioned on CG and Death Note though lol. Like I get you don't agree with the 2 examples he threw out there but that really wasn't what you should have been focusing on ~_~
Never Knows Best.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-05 12:59:30
May 05 2018 12:39 GMT
#125819
On May 05 2018 10:36 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2018 07:05 IceHism wrote:
On May 05 2018 04:57 abuse wrote:
honestly sounds and is like complete bullshit to me, because I know plenty of people who had code geass as their first or second anime and they loved it.
I am also one such person.

Opinions are great and all, but don't try to make them fact.
Why did I even come here, jesus.


if you think she'll like code geass and death note which are very anime and basically thrives on how silly they are, then you should just go show it to her. It just sounds odd because we have no idea what you meant when you said she says she doesn't like silly or cringey stuff. Cause i seriously doubt she hates silly and cringey stuff if she is a nerd.

unless we're talking about modern hipster nerds that watch rick and morty and game of thrones.


that's just the thing.
at no point did I say that I'd go with either of those two options, I said those were my picks. Then it gets made fun of, and I get told that "nobody is saying that they are bad for first or second anime" while that is what the entire question was about in the first place.
I also said several times that i'm thankful for the opinions and I would take them into account, and we'd look into them thoroughly and work something out, yet people here love spinning it in a way that I will show her code geass and that's that.
I also never said that she likes or doesn't like silly or cringy stuff, I said she thinks that all anime is that, without watching them, because stereotypes.

People here like assuming fuck knows what and trying to inflate things to preposterous amounts to suit their thought, and I always end up like an asshole when I come here and just end up regretting it.
I'm just done with this place.


I think you're reading too much into this. Most people didn't try to get at Code Geass for being bad or tried to make fun of the idea. It's just that for most of us Code Geass reads exactly like the one thing she would not like given what you told us about her.
I kind of agree with Sent when he said that's like someone saing "Anime is just all robots fighting and stuff and nothing else" and you going on with "yo, why not try some Gundam" (not exactly his words but too lazy to look it up). I wouldn't even call that exaggerated. That's really what it sounded like to us. To a lot of people Code Geass is great fun because it's silly and that's why it's so well liked.

Some people did go a bit overboard but for the most part it's really just been people going "I don't think Code Geass fits for her given what you told us" and like I already said before, you only told us very little about her so it could very well be that we're all dead wrong on it, misunderstanding you and that you have a better grasp on what she might or might not like (the last one at the very least is very likely to be true).

I kind of disagree with your
Then it gets made fun of, and I get told that "nobody is saying that they are bad for first or second anime" while that is what the entire question was about in the first place.

That by itself is not the question imo. The question isn't what's good or bad for a first or second anime, the question is what's good or bad for a first or second anime for that specific person.
Give Miragee KonoSuba as first anime and he would have probably ragequitted right there and never ended up in here no matter how overwhelmingly positive the feedback on that show is.
Give me Monster as a recommendation for my first anime and I probably wouldn't be sitting here either no matter how well liked it is because for me that's just not what I personally want from anime (for the most time).

And I think that disagreement is at the core of what's the problem here. People in here are arguing that Code Geass is probably not the best anime to show to that one specific person given what you told us about her.
While you take it the way I quoted you, as people trying to say that Code Geass is a shitty anime for first-timers period. Again, I don't think anyone is trying to say that.

So yes, Code Geass is a good anime to get people into anime, it's just that the one thing you told us about her made us think she specifically wouldn't like that. And yeah some people did go a bit overboard but for the most part it's not people making fun of you or Code Geass, it's just people trying to be funny while getting that across.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51497 Posts
May 05 2018 17:10 GMT
#125820
I'm disappointed in BigFan, its been little over a year since he was threatened by Toad for not watching Monogatari, nothing came of it.
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