EPTAnime Discussion Thread - Page 6208
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Jek
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Dark_Chill
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BigFan
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Himawari gets her bakugan for the first time and had a chuckle As for the other discussion, honestly, Naruto's ending was bad and I don't even mean from the whole he's being x who's using y who's actually being used z or some of the other stuff but the idea of having some "eternal" peace. There is no way to have a sequel, aka boruto if the ending was meant to be total peace which also explains why Kishi did say that he had nothing more for Naruto. So yes, Boruto shits on Naruto's ending from that perspective but it's not possible to have the sequel if it didn't lol. As for whether it's a good anime or manga, I have no clue. | ||
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Unleashing
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When the naruto series began ninjas were portrayed as sneaky and stealthy and working in the shadows often and going on a lot of missions protecting people, gathering intel or a multitude of others things. Yet the further into the series naruto went it became more and more ninjas throwing larger and larger energy balls against eachother and any aspect of ninjas being you know ninjas went out the window, and it just became pretty fucking awful because of the need to escalate things constantly. First villages go to open war against eachother, then a terrorist organization is threatening the entire world, then an ancient ninja is revived and wants to control the entire world + plunges the world into a giant war and then an alien arrives randomly and also wants to destroy the world. There are plenty of series that write great stories that appeal to WSJ's demographic without the need to escalate things with stupid power creep and random asspull powers. Oh our protagonist died? Some ancient ninja ghost arrives and gives him magical power of someone he's the reincarnation of and now he's alive again and stronger than ever. It's just fucking terrible. And boruto fell into this from page fucking one. It didn't even take 100+ chapters, just one page. | ||
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Numy
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Numy
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edit: I thought it was going back to it's roots. Was actually keen to check it out one day. | ||
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Unleashing
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 11 2018 06:59 Numy wrote: It's just mindblowing to me. One of the biggest issues in Naruto was that scale just blew up to the point where nothing seemed to matter and characters stayed stagnant. If you have the chance to reboot it all why the hell do you start at that point!!! edit: I thought it was going back to it's roots. Was actually keen to check it out one day. yeah I'm surprised as well. I only heard good things about the series so far from all kinds of youtubers saying that it did go back to it's roots and that it's really entertaining atm. And now people here saying it's the same powercreep (probably already starting way up there) that was the issue for ... everything that wasn't early on in the series. It's a shame, I feel like an actual ninja show would actually be nice. But instead we're getting another DBZ with people flying around, shooting energy balls and being ninja's in name only ? | ||
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NewSunshine
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Toadesstern
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
That's what I thought Boruto was when I heard about a sequel being made. | ||
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BigFan
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On January 11 2018 06:31 Unleashing wrote: Having peace doesn't mean conflicts that would require ninjas don't exist. You could have the boruto series actually focus on ninja stuff like the Zabusa mission from the original naruto. Why the need to escalate things to a world-ending/world war scenario? You can have peace between the major factions and still have conflicts to focus on that requires ninja work. When the naruto series began ninjas were portrayed as sneaky and stealthy and working in the shadows often and going on a lot of missions protecting people, gathering intel or a multitude of others things. Yet the further into the series naruto went it became more and more ninjas throwing larger and larger energy balls against eachother and any aspect of ninjas being you know ninjas went out the window, and it just became pretty fucking awful because of the need to escalate things constantly. First villages go to open war against eachother, then a terrorist organization is threatening the entire world, then an ancient ninja is revived and wants to control the entire world + plunges the world into a giant war and then an alien arrives randomly and also wants to destroy the world. There are plenty of series that write great stories that appeal to WSJ's demographic without the need to escalate things with stupid power creep and random asspull powers. Oh our protagonist died? Some ancient ninja ghost arrives and gives him magical power of someone he's the reincarnation of and now he's alive again and stronger than ever. It's just fucking terrible. And boruto fell into this from page fucking one. It didn't even take 100+ chapters, just one page. That's kind of what I was trying to say though eternal peace may have alluded to otherwise. I enjoyed the Zabusa mission for sure but I doubt I would've enjoyed it if the characters kept going on these mini-missions throughout the whole series. I think Naruto expanding the scope was fine tbh but the execution and the constant x is behind y as well as massively increasing power levels made things that were great before, quite terrible. Also, I'm not saying I want an all out war but a much bigger conflict is much more enticing to me as a viewer. Problem is that Naruto ended on such a crazy high note with power levels and such that to me, continuing it and focusing on smaller conflicts of "rogue ninjas" is just not that interesting. At the same time, you'll have a hard time reconciling everything which is a major issue in Boruto. I think I watched either the first bit of an episode or the movie and hearing that + Show Spoiler + Naruto died was really bizzare to me. | ||
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Unleashing
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Look at a show like Haikyuu, the stakes are literally just a highschool level volleyball tournament, nobody's gonna die and nobody is going to have their lives ruined, the stakes are almost as low as it can get. And yet it's written in a way that entices you to care, it has character drama and a well written story to make you care. A story can easily have a smaller and more grounded scope while being incredibly interesting. Another example would be JoJo as mentioned earlier + Show Spoiler [Part 2 and 4] + In part 2 the stakes are high and Kars threatens the entire world and in part 4 the stakes is a serial killer who kills a few people every now and then that might run loose. It's a monumental difference in what's on the line, and yet i feel that part 4 is so much better and that Kira is an infinitely better antagonist than Kars was Smaller and self-contained arcs that focus on character drama and development while having an engaging and interesting overarching story are to me generally far more interesting than a series just constantly increasing the stakes and power level because they apparently can't figure out any other way to keep things remotely interesting. | ||
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BigFan
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My main problem with Haikyuu even though I enjoyed it was that even though you cared about the characters and story, they really really extended each game to fill so many episodes that it's easy to lose track of how things got there in the first place. Given, this is not necessarily only a Haikyuu problem. Sorry, never watched JoJo so couldn't read the spoiler since I may decide to watch it someday. | ||
Spazer
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Yuru Camp reminds me of Yama no Susume. A pleasant surprise. | ||
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Sentenal
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abuse
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 I liked the 2nd half of Naruto, including the war arc. Sue me. | ||
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Numy
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@Bigfan: I rewatched all of Haikyuu recently. Only the final season did they really extend the game. Most others were done in 2 episodes. Might be a case of you just remembering the last thing you watched more than previous. The Jojo thing is simple. Parts 2-3 were basically world ending or global dominance scale. Part 4 was a small town in the middle of nowhere Japan with the scale being not even that towns survival. This allowed Araki to develop one of if not the best villain he's done. People are saturated with world ending stories which are hard to really relate to as they just too vast in scope. Compare that to a neighbor being a baddie in a small town. That's intimate. Something people can really grasp and it allows a lot more expression for the author. It's also incredibly hard to make people continue to care about a story when you hit the world ending scale. Where do you go from there? You can't really scale back since you already did most hectic thing there is. This leaves you stranded. That's kind of why reboots are popular and go super back in scale. Leave the most room to grow. | ||
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Aznupdown
Canada318 Posts
On January 10 2018 16:20 AssyrianKing wrote: Guys, apparently there’s a new anime out that is meant to be like naruto or from the creators of naruto ? I think all of u r missing the biggest point here...how did it take AssyrianKing 3 seasons to notice there was a Naruto spin-off when the anime is still on-going? :D | ||
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