EPTAnime Discussion Thread - Page 5721
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Sentenal
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Slaughter
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On August 17 2016 12:20 Slaughter wrote: Dr. Kureha looks her age lol. If your definition is true then no one of legal age is a loli, not even the teacher from Index. Dr. Kureha looks like she would be 70, not 150. And the teacher from Index is clearly and obviously prepubescent. To keep the One Piece examples going, you have Robin, who is in her 30s, and yet looks like shes 21 or something (and has been looking younger and younger as the series goes farther in). Or Shakky, who is like Rayleigh's age, yet looks to be in her 20s. All Lolis! Apparently! | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
I'm merely discarding the older definition of any young girl and including the intent of the creators when they make a character, so when they draw someone to purposely look like a young girl but they are a late teen or an adult that to me is a loli. Everyone else is just a girl in the show. Edit: Note in my definition I specifically said to look like sub 13 years old so your examples are ridiculous. Btw I don't get what you mean about Robin. She clearly looks older in the way Oda draws her in comparison to the late teens/early 20s crew members. Especially post-time skip she definitely looks her age. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On August 17 2016 12:32 Slaughter wrote: She is in her 20s....and how can you say Kureha "doesn't look 150"? What would that even look like? She is old and looks old. If you are 12 you are a child not a loli. You can say someone who likes little girls is a pedophile or a lolicon but young girls are just that...girls. Its true that the origin of the word means young girls but with the expansion of the loli concept in anime you can say that the older term is a bit outdated. Now they have to add in descriptors to specify (IE True loli). I'm merely discarding the older definition of any young girl and including the intent of the creators when they make a character, so when they draw someone to purposely look like a young girl but they are a late teen or an adult that to me is a loli. Everyone else is just a girl in the show. Edit: Note in my definition I specifically said to look like sub 13 years old so your examples are ridiculous. Btw I don't get what you mean about Robin. She clearly looks older in the way Oda draws her in comparison to the late teens/early 20s crew members. Especially post-time skip she definitely looks her age. I always held this as the definition of loli. Interesting to see that it has a different older one lol | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On August 17 2016 12:32 Slaughter wrote: She is in her 20s....and how can you say Kureha "doesn't look 150"? What would that even look like? She is old and looks old. If you are 12 you are a child not a loli. You can say someone who likes little girls is a pedophile or a lolicon but young girls are just that...girls. Its true that the origin of the word means young girls but with the expansion of the loli concept in anime you can say that the older term is a bit outdated. Now they have to add in descriptors to specify (IE True loli). I'm merely discarding the older definition of any young girl and including the intent of the creators when they make a character, so when they draw someone to purposely look like a young girl but they are a late teen or an adult that to me is a loli. Everyone else is just a girl in the show. Edit: Note in my definition I specifically said to look like sub 13 years old so your examples are ridiculous. Btw I don't get what you mean about Robin. She clearly looks older in the way Oda draws her in comparison to the late teens/early 20s crew members. Especially post-time skip she definitely looks her age. Old people certainly don't look like a 20 year old, just with a wrinkly face, thats for sure. Robin is in her 30s, and her age is completely indistinguishable from Nami, who is just a little older than half her age. And then Shakky is another 60 year old who looks like shes 20. The fact that you admit there are descriptors to the term loli like "True Loli" and "Legal Loli" only go further to prove the point of what one is. As in, a True Loli=prepubescent girl. Legal loli=older girl who looks like a prepubescent girl. Lolicon=someone who has a complex on prepubescent girls. Plus, the term isn't outdated, it was anime in the first place that has popularized and established what the actual definition is. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On August 17 2016 12:48 Sentenal wrote: Old people certainly don't look like a 20 year old, just with a wrinkly face, thats for sure. Robin is in her 30s, and her age is completely indistinguishable from Nami, who is just a little older than half her age. And then Shakky is another 60 year old who looks like shes 20. The fact that you admit there are descriptors to the term loli like "True Loli" and "Legal Loli" only go further to prove the point of what one is. As in, a True Loli=prepubescent girl. Legal loli=older girl who looks like a prepubescent girl. Lolicon=someone who has a complex on prepubescent girls. Plus, the term isn't outdated, it was anime in the first place that has popularized and established what the actual definition is. Robin looks older then Nami to me lol. Anime didn't establish the concept. You already showed where it came from and anime just picked up on it and expanded it since it became such a thing. I never claimed that my definition is what everyone uses, the previous multiple debates about what is a loli is proof of that. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On August 17 2016 13:24 plasmidghost wrote: I just finished up the Grisaia no Kajitsu VN, what all did the anime cover? I'd like to be fully spoiled, since I doubt I'll watch it The anime just did like a quick and dirty summary of every route lol. The second season covered the main story from the third VN. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
On August 17 2016 13:32 Slaughter wrote: The anime just did like a quick and dirty summary of every route lol. The second season covered the main story from the third VN. Man, that sounds rather bad, shame there wasn't a true end like in Steins;Gate to make adapting the VN easier | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On August 17 2016 14:02 plasmidghost wrote: Man, that sounds rather bad, shame there wasn't a true end like in Steins;Gate to make adapting the VN easier Iirc the second VN ties them all together to where he helps them all. | ||
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Miragee
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On August 17 2016 08:49 tonight wrote: Don't consider either one loli. Appropriate looks for their age. They look like 14 wtf? And you know how much progress girls make in the age between 14 and 17... | ||
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sharkie
Austria18407 Posts
On August 17 2016 15:00 Miragee wrote: They look like 14 wtf? And you know how much progress girls make in the age between 14 and 17... What is appropriate looks for their age? There are tons of women who look like 14 in their 20s. Small bust size and short height do that. | ||
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Miragee
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On August 17 2016 15:07 sharkie wrote: What is appropriate looks for their age? There are tons of women who look like 14 in their 20s. Small bust size and short height do that. Nah, it's more the other way around. As in they look older than they are. Never seen a girl in their 20s that looks like 14 lol. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On August 17 2016 11:50 Sentenal wrote: Its probably because Toad gives special exceptions to his loli waifus to not consider them lolis. I don't even like Tsukihi that much. I'm more of a Karen guy and she's certainly not a loli with her being taller than Araragi + that whole sports thing | ||
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sharkie
Austria18407 Posts
On August 17 2016 15:15 Miragee wrote: Nah, it's more the other way around. As in they look older than they are. Never seen a girl in their 20s that looks like 14 lol. You never been to Asian countries or have Asian friends? Just enter a Japanese clothes shop. All these 14 looking girls are in truth 20+ | ||
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Miragee
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On August 17 2016 17:07 sharkie wrote: You never been to Asian countries or have Asian friends? Just enter a Japanese clothes shop. All these 14 looking girls are in truth 20+ Yeah well, I'm not too familiar with asians indeed. It might be different for asian people though. They can probably tell the difference while western people are accustomed to western looks, so the asian ones look younger to us? That's only speculation of course. On August 17 2016 16:51 Toadesstern wrote: a girl in her 20s that looks like 14 would still be a loli. A legal one at that. I don't even like Tsukihi that much. I'm more of a Karen guy and she's certainly not a loli with her being taller than Araragi + that whole sports thing What sports thing? | ||
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FFGenerations
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On August 17 2016 01:27 HolydaKing wrote: For ReZero there are a couple of people who also see Ram and Rem as loli, while imo only Beatrice is one. i haven't seen beatrice for fucking like 5 episodes | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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Nagisama
Canada4481 Posts
On August 17 2016 17:27 Miragee wrote: Yeah well, I'm not too familiar with asians indeed. It might be different for asian people though. They can probably tell the difference while western people are accustomed to western looks, so the asian ones look younger to us? That's only speculation of course. What sports thing? It's called the Asian gene jokingly for a reason, among other Asian stereotypes. Even a pretty popular joke picture about it. + Show Spoiler + http://www.geekinheels.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/average_asian_woman_aging.jpg Karen is really athletic... that's all. | ||
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