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If you come in here looking for "anime recommendations" then please refer to this chart before posting: Anime Recommendations (as of may 2014). We also have an IRC channel called #tladt where we all hang out. The channel is on Rizon, not QuakeNet! Feel free to check it out. TLADT discord is Discord.gg

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IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-17 08:44:37
August 17 2016 08:44 GMT
#114421
I'm pretty good at telling the age difference. Though i don't rely on height. It's pretty easy to spot who's 20+ and who is really young
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8716 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-17 08:50:22
August 17 2016 08:44 GMT
#114422
On August 17 2016 17:37 Toadesstern wrote:
lolis can't be on the tomboy side imo. So she could be 10 and look that way for all I care and wouldn't matter to me~


Why is that? I don't quite understand what you are talking about. Could you elaborate?

On August 17 2016 17:38 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 17:27 Miragee wrote:
On August 17 2016 17:07 sharkie wrote:
On August 17 2016 15:15 Miragee wrote:
On August 17 2016 15:07 sharkie wrote:
On August 17 2016 15:00 Miragee wrote:
On August 17 2016 08:49 tonight wrote:
Don't consider either one loli. Appropriate looks for their age.


They look like 14 wtf? And you know how much progress girls make in the age between 14 and 17...


What is appropriate looks for their age?

There are tons of women who look like 14 in their 20s. Small bust size and short height do that.


Nah, it's more the other way around. As in they look older than they are. Never seen a girl in their 20s that looks like 14 lol.


You never been to Asian countries or have Asian friends?
Just enter a Japanese clothes shop. All these 14 looking girls are in truth 20+


Yeah well, I'm not too familiar with asians indeed. It might be different for asian people though. They can probably tell the difference while western people are accustomed to western looks, so the asian ones look younger to us? That's only speculation of course.

On August 17 2016 16:51 Toadesstern wrote:
a girl in her 20s that looks like 14 would still be a loli. A legal one at that.
On August 17 2016 11:50 Sentenal wrote:
Its probably because Toad gives special exceptions to his loli waifus to not consider them lolis.

I don't even like Tsukihi that much. I'm more of a Karen guy and she's certainly not a loli with her being taller than Araragi + that whole sports thing


What sports thing?


It's called the Asian gene jokingly for a reason, among other Asian stereotypes. Even a pretty popular joke picture about it. + Show Spoiler +
http://www.geekinheels.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/average_asian_woman_aging.jpg
No, we can't tell their age apart either.

Karen is really athletic... that's all.


LOL

Ok, thanks for clearing that up.

So does that mean athletic girls can't be loli because they always look mature (not true)? Or that young girls can't look athletic stuff (not true either)?


On August 17 2016 17:44 IceHism wrote:
I'm pretty good at telling the age difference. Though i don't rely on height. It's pretty easy to spot who's 20+ and who is really young


I agree with that. There are alway some exceptions that look older than they really are (doesn't matter if female or male) but they are rather rare. I mean, there is always a range to it, you can't just pin point on the exact year. But the distinction between 14 and 20+ is rather easy, at least in the western hemisphere.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
August 17 2016 08:49 GMT
#114423
there's almost always a marked distinction between the face of lolis and adults . it's their defining characteristic. not their height, their tits, their temperament , but their face . so finding adult loli is hard IMO , it can be done , but it is hard. big eyes, small head (small frame will follow).

here is my perfect RL loli , she is like 33 here

[image loading]
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
August 17 2016 08:55 GMT
#114424
On August 17 2016 17:44 Miragee wrote:
So does that mean athletic girls can't be loli because they always look mature (not true)? Or that young girls can't look athletic stuff (not true either)?

No, Toad's just talking out of his ass, which was also what started this convo to begin with.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-17 09:05:08
August 17 2016 08:59 GMT
#114425
no, it was emnjay saying the stb main girl is a loli that started this!

and I'd certainly not call tomboyish characters lolis. Not really about her being athletic in general
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
August 17 2016 10:31 GMT
#114426
is there anything i shud b watching apart from re zero and berserk?
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8716 Posts
August 17 2016 10:50 GMT
#114427
On August 17 2016 19:31 FFGenerations wrote:
is there anything i shud b watching apart from re zero and berserk?


Probably Alderamin and Orange?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 17 2016 11:03 GMT
#114428
always watch New Game! Never not watch New Game!
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-17 11:24:41
August 17 2016 11:23 GMT
#114429
Shokugeki
New game
Thunderbolt fantasy
Alderamin

Taiwanese puppet drama(thunderbolt fantasy) is actually pretty entertaining. I'm sort of sad though that the story is pretty standard for wuxia.
ThaddeusK
Profile Joined July 2008
United States233 Posts
August 17 2016 11:52 GMT
#114430
What I've learned from this thread is that definitions of the term loli vary so wildly that the term is completely useless for actually conveying meaning.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-17 13:45:15
August 17 2016 13:45 GMT
#114431
On August 17 2016 13:31 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 12:48 Sentenal wrote:
On August 17 2016 12:32 Slaughter wrote:
She is in her 20s....and how can you say Kureha "doesn't look 150"? What would that even look like? She is old and looks old. If you are 12 you are a child not a loli. You can say someone who likes little girls is a pedophile or a lolicon but young girls are just that...girls. Its true that the origin of the word means young girls but with the expansion of the loli concept in anime you can say that the older term is a bit outdated. Now they have to add in descriptors to specify (IE True loli).

I'm merely discarding the older definition of any young girl and including the intent of the creators when they make a character, so when they draw someone to purposely look like a young girl but they are a late teen or an adult that to me is a loli. Everyone else is just a girl in the show.

Edit: Note in my definition I specifically said to look like sub 13 years old so your examples are ridiculous. Btw I don't get what you mean about Robin. She clearly looks older in the way Oda draws her in comparison to the late teens/early 20s crew members. Especially post-time skip she definitely looks her age.

Old people certainly don't look like a 20 year old, just with a wrinkly face, thats for sure. Robin is in her 30s, and her age is completely indistinguishable from Nami, who is just a little older than half her age. And then Shakky is another 60 year old who looks like shes 20.

The fact that you admit there are descriptors to the term loli like "True Loli" and "Legal Loli" only go further to prove the point of what one is. As in, a True Loli=prepubescent girl. Legal loli=older girl who looks like a prepubescent girl. Lolicon=someone who has a complex on prepubescent girls. Plus, the term isn't outdated, it was anime in the first place that has popularized and established what the actual definition is.


Robin looks older then Nami to me lol.

Anime didn't establish the concept. You already showed where it came from and anime just picked up on it and expanded it since it became such a thing.

I never claimed that my definition is what everyone uses, the previous multiple debates about what is a loli is proof of that.

I meant more along the lines of anime took the character of "Lolita" from the book, and created the term Lolicon and Loli out of it. The book itself was from like the 50s, but the usage of Lolicon is pretty much entirely confined to Otaku culture.

On August 17 2016 17:37 Toadesstern wrote:
lolis can't be on the tomboy side imo. So she could be 10 and look that way for all I care and wouldn't matter to me~

Why do you people always put these arbitrary qualifiers on things. This is your fault this is even a discussion!!! lol
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
August 17 2016 13:56 GMT
#114432
On August 17 2016 15:00 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 08:49 tonight wrote:
Don't consider either one loli. Appropriate looks for their age.


They look like 14 wtf? And you know how much progress girls make in the age between 14 and 17...


If they're 17 they aren't growing anymore. I don't know what this argument is? They look like 17 year olds that are shorter and smaller than maybe other 17 year olds, but to me, I wouldn't consider them looking like 14 year olds.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-17 14:03:24
August 17 2016 13:57 GMT
#114433
don't take it too seriously. Wasn't meant as a "I'm right on this and you should use it the same way I am!" at all, just stating how I myself see it~

I guess all the years of mafia that drill you into talking like your idea about what's going on is the right one and everyone should listen to you is getting the better of me when writing online sometimes
But that's been an issue numerous times already when I don't pay attention and just type away

also Sent, boatwaifu:

+ Show Spoiler [pics] +
[image loading]

^ imo loli

[image loading]

^ barely not loli

Don't ask me why~
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 17 2016 14:11 GMT
#114434
Is it because she has more guns, or is it because shes a dog?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
August 17 2016 14:13 GMT
#114435
This whole conversation has made me want to vomit
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 17 2016 14:13 GMT
#114436
On August 17 2016 23:11 Sentenal wrote:
Is it because she has more guns, or is it because shes a dog?

it might be both
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-17 15:42:18
August 17 2016 15:40 GMT
#114437
On August 17 2016 22:56 tonight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 15:00 Miragee wrote:
On August 17 2016 08:49 tonight wrote:
Don't consider either one loli. Appropriate looks for their age.


They look like 14 wtf? And you know how much progress girls make in the age between 14 and 17...


If they're 17 they aren't growing anymore. I don't know what this argument is? They look like 17 year olds that are shorter and smaller than maybe other 17 year olds, but to me, I wouldn't consider them looking like 14 year olds.

Exactly, there are plenty small girls&guys out there, no matter the country. Just go watching gymnastics at the Olympics for some examples. It's also more common in asia (where especially the girls usually look younger than they are as said before). This discussion went as long as I thought lol.

Also as for recommended animes: Saiki Kusuo no Ψ-nan is still among my favorites, it's short but really fun.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-17 21:57:28
August 17 2016 21:56 GMT
#114438
Yo Girls and Guys!

If any of you enjoy Survival, Post-apocalyptic settings, I discovered a Korean Manga yesterday : Hive

Insects invading humanity! So far, I'm enjoying it alot.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 18 2016 16:35 GMT
#114439
+ Show Spoiler [Overwatch Short] +

Why can't we have anime CGI even being half as good as this. Sigh. . .
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 18 2016 16:36 GMT
#114440
just highlight me whenever you get on Emnjay. Konobi will be out in about 3hours and I should be on irc all the time, semi-afk
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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