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. Hana is very tame considering all other times we see kanbaru through Araragi she's super lewd which kind of furthers Toads point I guess.
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Numy
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. Hana is very tame considering all other times we see kanbaru through Araragi she's super lewd which kind of furthers Toads point I guess. | ||
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IceHism
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On November 26 2015 01:06 Toadesstern wrote: yeah same here lol. I don't really agree with everything but the basic idea behind it is correct (imo). I thought about telling him to read it right away as well but figured he can just force himself through Nise to avoid the spoilers. But it really touches greatly on how the depiction changes based on what character we're talking about and how it's what THEY want to do/show to Araragi rather than just fanservice for the viewer because the viewer wants it. In the end it's still fanservice but it feels like there's a strong reason behind it and the way it's shown supports that. Heck, you could even see it in the most recent Owarimonogatari episode with Kanbaru. As an aside: If you consider that the strong point in Nise, that for once, stems from Shaft and not from the Author. Yeah the conversations are still epic but it's nothing new at that point and it really comes down to being soft-porn. Nishio himself said that he never intended to publish Nisemonogatari and only wrote it for himself to live out his fantasies iirc. But editors went ahead and published it anyways and Shaft animated it  If fanservice has a purpose, then it's not fanservice. That's literally what it means. | ||
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IceHism
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On November 26 2015 02:45 Slaughter wrote: You could find deep and meaningful subtext in almost anything if you look for it. Monogatari could have had a scene with Koyomi taking a shit and there would be people would there analyzing it. Sometimes a spade is just a spade however, and while I do think they tried to be different in their approach and give it some use in the story, its still just fan service. yea but the cool thing about art is that to two different people, the spade could be a spade to one and the the spade could be deep subtext to the other. As long as people justify what they say, art interpretation can't be wrong. | ||
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
On November 25 2015 21:48 Toadesstern wrote: give this a read once you're finished with Nisemonogatari: http://wrongeverytime.com/2013/04/14/nisemonogatari-and-the-nature-of-fanservice/ I'd agree that the fanservice (that I usually dislike) in Monogatari feels different from what I usually mean by Fanservice. I'd also agree with the critic from your link. I've noticed that the camera work in Monogatari is very interesting and seems to give us different POV (like the one from Araragi, when he's trying to peak at the girl) | ||
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FFGenerations
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i increasingly get the impression that some people just arent very sexual and some people are very sexual by nature | ||
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
On November 26 2015 04:55 FFGenerations wrote: i too like pantsu i increasingly get the impression that some people just arent very sexual and some people are very sexual by nature I'm not by nature, I think. I do enjoy beauty though ; not provocation (aka, vulgar). Not sure if that makes any sense. Some of my students are very beautiful and I can appreciate that. Others are very provocative (huge necklines, micro skirt, etc), and I hate it. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On November 26 2015 05:57 XenOmega wrote: I'm not by nature, I think. I do enjoy beauty though ; not provocation (aka, vulgar). Not sure if that makes any sense. Some of my students are very beautiful and I can appreciate that. Others are very provocative (huge necklines, micro skirt, etc), and I hate it. So you don't like the actual body but like the idea of beauty? Never got that. A women either has a hot body or she doesn't. If she wears a tighter skirt or shows more cleavage she isn't suddenly nasty. People are weird. No point trying to understand them I guess. Anyway I started Cross Game. It's pretty different from the usual sports anime I've watched. No super hyped games with crazy "techniques" going at it. Rather just a cool story of friendship and dense as fuck childhood friends who can't get over a dead girl. Also started Haikyuu!!. This is more like the usual stuff, very similar to Kuroko in a way but the adorable manager isn't much of a character in this which kind of sucks. Otherwise it's ok. Can't say I know a thing about any of these sports they play so volleyball isn't that strange. | ||
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Miragee
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On November 26 2015 06:08 Numy wrote: So you don't like the actual body but like the idea of beauty? Never got that. A women either has a hot body or she doesn't. If she wears a tighter skirt or shows more cleavage she isn't suddenly nasty. People are weird. No point trying to understand them I guess. Anyway I started Cross Game. It's pretty different from the usual sports anime I've watched. No super hyped games with crazy "techniques" going at it. Rather just a cool story of friendship and dense as fuck childhood friends who can't get over a dead girl. Also started Haikyuu!!. This is more like the usual stuff, very similar to Kuroko in a way but the adorable manager isn't much of a character in this which kind of sucks. Otherwise it's ok. Can't say I know a thing about any of these sports they play so volleyball isn't that strange. His post made it sound like more of an attitude-problem and that's something I can definitely agree with. If someone is always in my face with his opinion and can't stop texting me I find that annoying. Same goes with clothes. If someone presents his/her body in my face I also find that annoying. That being said, I agree with your point about the body at least halfway. People can still wear stuff that makes them look worse. For example, I'm personally not a fan of the vast majority of make-up out there because in most cases it makes the person look worse or about the same at maximum. And last but not least, there is a thing that's called taste. Some people like it tasteful other like short stuff and so on. I would personally prefer the same girl in hoody and jeans over her in a dress everyday for example - a view not many people I know share. | ||
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
On November 26 2015 06:08 Numy wrote: So you don't like the actual body but like the idea of beauty? Never got that. A women either has a hot body or she doesn't. If she wears a tighter skirt or shows more cleavage she isn't suddenly nasty. People are weird. No point trying to understand them I guess. Anyway I started Cross Game. It's pretty different from the usual sports anime I've watched. No super hyped games with crazy "techniques" going at it. Rather just a cool story of friendship and dense as fuck childhood friends who can't get over a dead girl. Also started Haikyuu!!. This is more like the usual stuff, very similar to Kuroko in a way but the adorable manager isn't much of a character in this which kind of sucks. Otherwise it's ok. Can't say I know a thing about any of these sports they play so volleyball isn't that strange. Nah, not the body, the way of presenting it. Beauty can be viewed in a way that isn't necessarily sexual, I believe. | ||
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
On November 26 2015 06:40 Miragee wrote: His post made it sound like more of an attitude-problem and that's something I can definitely agree with. If someone is always in my face with his opinion and can't stop texting me I find that annoying. Same goes with clothes. If someone presents his/her body in my face I also find that annoying. That being said, I agree with your point about the body at least halfway. People can still wear stuff that makes them look worse. For example, I'm personally not a fan of the vast majority of make-up out there because in most cases it makes the person look worse or about the same at maximum. And last but not least, there is a thing that's called taste. Some people like it tasteful other like short stuff and so on. I would personally prefer the same girl in hoody and jeans over her in a dress everyday for example - a view not many people I know share. Agreed, different people have different tastes! But when asked, one shouldn't be afraid to present his opinions on beauty and why he believes so  | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
RIP wallet, must have both (buying anime merch is fairly expensive here due to import fees ) | ||
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IceHism
United States1903 Posts
On November 26 2015 06:47 XenOmega wrote: Nah, not the body, the way of presenting it. Beauty can be viewed in a way that isn't necessarily sexual, I believe. If I'm right about what you are saying then I also share a similar view. The way I see it is sort of like this. I don't find fanservice titillating unless it's like 18+ things so I don't really care for it in shows. But I always appreciate/like something that looks good. Human body included. Idk, I just don't see it as sexual. Good looking ppl, naked or not, are pretty cool though | ||
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