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bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
November 16 2014 09:38 GMT
#87741
On November 16 2014 18:30 Miragee wrote:
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On November 16 2014 12:27 Mandini wrote:
On November 16 2014 11:56 Slaughter wrote:
On November 16 2014 11:16 BigFan wrote:
Finally started watching Shigatsu. Liking it so far


The OP for that show is sooooo good.

The full version is out, I've been listening to the UBW ED, Psycho Pass ED, and Shigatsu OP all night


Where? :o

Official is 19Nov. But according to reddit, there are leaked PV somewhere

On November 16 2014 18:30 Miragee wrote:
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On November 16 2014 15:28 bluegarfield wrote:
On November 16 2014 15:12 BigFan wrote:
Caught up to latest episode of Shigatsu. Great OP, grew on me. Fun anime so far: + Show Spoiler +
I'm not sure who's going to win this though. So far, seems like Kaori got the upper hand and we know the rule, that childhood friends rarely win. I like both characters a lot though Kaori a bit more atm. I'm sure Ryouta would have something to say if Kaori ended up with Kousei then again, he seems like a bro so maybe not lol.

Latest episode ended on a good and exciting note. Tsubaki got her time with Kousei and the two other pianist that want to crush him in competition. Hopefully we get more background about them. Seeing as there's still quite a bit of episodes left and I don't see us waiting more than several episodes to get to the competition, I wonder if he's going to lose it but guess with all the preliminaries and rounds, it can take us all the way to the end. Here's to more Kousei x Kaori moments! :D


+ Show Spoiler +
I also like Kaori more from the beginning, but as of latest ep Tsubaki really become much better. Idk but I think I'd prefer Kaori to be some sort of bff to both and Tsubaki wins at the end (not considering all the death flag showed by Kaori yet) Poor senpai dude though, temporary replacement.


+ Show Spoiler +
Tsubaki has become much better lately because they just began to color her out. I think the anime set up provides a perfect base for parallel characer development but they rather chose to do it one at a time, which is a little bit disappointing.


+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah, Tsubaki and Kaori has kinda contrasting characters that I would also like to see their character development done in parallel. Current way is indeed a bit disappointing, but not so bad i guess
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 16 2014 10:39 GMT
#87742
On November 16 2014 16:25 Ecael wrote:
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On November 16 2014 16:18 Slaughter wrote:
On November 16 2014 16:13 Ecael wrote:
On November 16 2014 16:10 Slaughter wrote:
On November 16 2014 15:56 Shock710 wrote:
On November 16 2014 15:34 Slaughter wrote:
On November 16 2014 15:31 Shock710 wrote:
i just want to know if i can pursue the maid route in grisaia no kajistu (shes is just tooooo cute) plus im like 5 mins and i didn really like the voices of the screaming girl or the laughing girl but this maid girl <3_<3
oh god shes stupid tho



You mean Sachi? Yes there is a route for every one of his classmates. The common route will take you a while before you get to any of the choices to begin entering routes. the order is Makina -> Amane -> Sachi -> Michiru -> Yumiko. So if you want to do Sachi's 1st you will have to make the choices to not enter Makina's or Amane's as they come along then you will get the point where you can enter Sachi.

but the maid's name is komine D: damn you do her route T_T so sad, nvm im an idiot ROFL


Lol glad you figured it out. Sachi is good, though I personally place Amane/Yumiko slightly above her. The "screaming girl" (I assume you mean Michuru) gets a lot better when you do her route. The laughing girl? Is that Amane your talking about? Though laughing isn't exactly the trait I would associate with her rofl.

Amane I can understand because boobs, masturbating on bed and #1 in route, but Yumiko? Really?


Maybe I have a thing for tsunderes? I dunno I just enjoyed their time on the run and their changing relationship. Dunno really can't place a finger on it. I liked her voice and character design too (probably tied with Sachi for #1 in that department). Her story was pretty meh compared to the others I will give you that.

I have seen a few images here and there that are from the other games. Seems like Sachi goes full kickass mode.

I wonder if I would hate Yumiko nearly as much if Grisaia wasn't released in 11 after so much teaser trying to compare her to Gahara-san only for the plot and character to blow. She does improve in game 3 with the prequel from her perspective, but that is basically cheating by ignoring all the bad from game 1 and sweeping it under the rug.

Sachi is amazing in game 3 but that's a different matter.
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On November 16 2014 16:21 KazeHydra wrote:
On November 16 2014 16:13 Ecael wrote:
On November 16 2014 16:10 Slaughter wrote:
On November 16 2014 15:56 Shock710 wrote:
On November 16 2014 15:34 Slaughter wrote:
On November 16 2014 15:31 Shock710 wrote:
i just want to know if i can pursue the maid route in grisaia no kajistu (shes is just tooooo cute) plus im like 5 mins and i didn really like the voices of the screaming girl or the laughing girl but this maid girl <3_<3
oh god shes stupid tho



You mean Sachi? Yes there is a route for every one of his classmates. The common route will take you a while before you get to any of the choices to begin entering routes. the order is Makina -> Amane -> Sachi -> Michiru -> Yumiko. So if you want to do Sachi's 1st you will have to make the choices to not enter Makina's or Amane's as they come along then you will get the point where you can enter Sachi.

but the maid's name is komine D: damn you do her route T_T so sad, nvm im an idiot ROFL


Lol glad you figured it out. Sachi is good, though I personally place Amane/Yumiko slightly above her. The "screaming girl" (I assume you mean Michuru) gets a lot better when you do her route. The laughing girl? Is that Amane your talking about? Though laughing isn't exactly the trait I would associate with her rofl.

Amane I can understand because boobs, masturbating on bed and #1 in route, but Yumiko? Really?

If Sachi was the char that got dragged down by a shit story and mitcher the one that got carried by plot, Yumiko is the one that fails in both aspects.
On November 16 2014 15:56 Shock710 wrote:
On November 16 2014 15:34 Slaughter wrote:
On November 16 2014 15:31 Shock710 wrote:
i just want to know if i can pursue the maid route in grisaia no kajistu (shes is just tooooo cute) plus im like 5 mins and i didn really like the voices of the screaming girl or the laughing girl but this maid girl <3_<3
oh god shes stupid tho



You mean Sachi? Yes there is a route for every one of his classmates. The common route will take you a while before you get to any of the choices to begin entering routes. the order is Makina -> Amane -> Sachi -> Michiru -> Yumiko. So if you want to do Sachi's 1st you will have to make the choices to not enter Makina's or Amane's as they come along then you will get the point where you can enter Sachi.

but the maid's name is komine D: damn you do her route T_T so sad, nvm im an idiot ROFL

Komine Sachi, the one that everyone calls Sachi except the Komine-san by Chizuru and Yumiko, both of whom hardly talks to her anyway. How did only surname stick in your mind lol.

Alternatively, shark maid. The Rakuen shark is too real. Which reminds me I forgot to mention to you, that Amaburi shark last ep, I was just waiting for based shark maid to appear.

I was too busy loling at starwars in swimsuit and pricess leiatifia.

btw kaze go to that random grisaia puzzle solving event for us o/


I find I like Yumiko a lot more when she's not trying hard to be like Senjougahara. Think it was a pretty big mistake to try get a cash crab by using the popularity of Gahara-san. Maybe it's just because I have a thing for long dark hair.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 16 2014 10:59 GMT
#87743
Yumiko is quite nice when she is dere but apart from that she is sorta meh.
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bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
November 16 2014 11:48 GMT
#87744
Bakemonogatari ep4: This show is so good. I really like the graphic and colors. Some word plays and jokes flew over my head though
still crab > snail. Not much of Hanekawa yet so not listed. I don't even know what animal spirit she represents
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-16 11:52:10
November 16 2014 11:51 GMT
#87745
On November 16 2014 11:53 bluegarfield wrote:
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On November 16 2014 07:24 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
On November 16 2014 06:55 BigFan wrote:
^ I like SAO and think it's great!

On November 16 2014 06:25 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
SAO 19: i didnt think it was too bad to be honest. that fight scene was pretty cool, but coulda been longer probably.

AND to piss everybody off more... I liked both arcs in SAO1. Aincrad was definitely much better but i was entertained by ALO's arc as well. GGO was good to me also if you were wondering. I just like the anime, simple as that. I do hate that by saying I like it I get thrown into a group with ignorant assholes who don't really know anything about anime outside those huge ones (bleach, SAO, naruto, onepiece).

I'm really pissed now! There's nothing wrong with what you wrote lol. Ignore the haters. The big thing that I didn't like about the second arc of SAO was that the world just wasn't interesting and the transition was too quick. You went from a survival game to one where death meant essentially nothing. I did enjoy all those moments where Kirito would kick someone's ass though haha but the world needed to be explored a lot more. Would've helped if we had several episodes between SAO and ALO. GGO was fine, exciting at times and a bit boring with some episodes. I still think first arc of SAO was best though


See i liked the world in ALO. I liked the addition of magic and flying, it made it more like the type of game I would play. Aincrad while not my first choice of an rpg would be something i probably wouldn't play until somebody made me then i'd fall in love with it. And I understand the "there's no death in ALO" argument but I got over it b/c Kirito still had that "can't die, can't let my friends die" mentality. So while technically they all could have died no big deal, it still had some tension in it b/c that's the last anybody wanted.


World-building-wise, ALO sure adds some interesting mechanics to the game like flying and all. Story-wise, Kirito and other characters (not like there are many) stay consistent with their mentality from SAO arc. But the story progression just take a turn for shitty path, probably why so many people hate it. Like the whole trap in game/force marriage thingy, the romance is pretty weak to begin with it doesn't need some test of true love story, not to mention the sister. Other things like tentacle researcher, door with access card and whatever is just poor (you can say that the person design it is not familiar with gaming world but still a poor design). And while Kirito being "invincible" in SAO arc actually has some mechanics behind it, ALO arc just pull shit out from thin air with the command system, it's really a badly executed story


Pretty much like that ya the story turned shit so quickly after sao arc, due to sao's 'if you die in game you die irl' having some shitty developed love story was ok, skipping some leveled up boring scenes was ok too because we want to know what happens in the end, that world setting is ridiculous to begin with so we are ok to deal with all the foreceful stuffs happened /conveniences in it. It was never like a proper anime for mmorpg like LoH.

And then after they came back to reality and there is no more restrictions in doing anything, a game is literally just a game now the writer is still trying to pull the similar shit like in sao arc, of course most people would have a hard time liking that lol. It turns so weird when the writer focuses on the sister involvement like that and basically made ALO arc a big generic harem-ish melodrama anime. GGO was an acceptable side story and then this Excalibur quest is interesting, the writer somehow made a big turn from focusing on the shitty generic harem-like direction to something closer to LoH, which is good i guess.

But thats why i said im sad that AW didnt get this kind of budget and the studio worked behind it has some horrible designs in many things, basically AW anime felt strongly for aiming at younger audience when the characters in AW are mentally so much older than that. The story setting is more consistent, you get better battles out of it and the quests and back stories are interesting, girls wise again it felt like it is aiming to satisfy the fantasy of fellow otaku lol but all is within acceptable range (since they are not officially going out so the girls go tryhard on their ntr skill, which is ok to stomach that). All in all some studio got the wrong idea of AW and didnt do a fair adaption of it i guess
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 16 2014 12:18 GMT
#87746
On November 16 2014 20:48 bluegarfield wrote:
Bakemonogatari ep4: This show is so good. I really like the graphic and colors. Some word plays and jokes flew over my head though
still crab > snail. Not much of Hanekawa yet so not listed. I don't even know what animal spirit she represents


Hanekawa is cat. Crab won't lose steam until you get more bat in Nise and second series. Cat is awful. Only 2 people think she's good.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 16 2014 12:22 GMT
#87747
I haven't read the lightnovels but apparently Mother's Rosario has a lot of feels in store. Yuuki is already contender for best girlu although she's only appeared like 5minutes. Judging from the opening Asuna'a new raidgroup seems to be the first smart one, at least they have a tank and aren't full glasscanon like the Calibre arc raidgroup.

Already miss Sinon though
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
November 16 2014 12:32 GMT
#87748
I think my major complaint with AW is with piggy's 'traumatic' backstory; it was so lazily written and I have no idea why authors keep revisiting that entire + Show Spoiler +
divorce over unwanted child -> abandonment by both parents
trope. the entire thing has been plowed into the ground so many times that the story is just unfeeling - it carries and draws less emotion than a transformers film.
I mean, his trauma is the entire foundation for his + Show Spoiler +
abilities in the accelarated world
, which seems to make his entire existence a joke rather than the hero redemption the author undoubtedly intended.
I also disliked the way the author felt it necessary to completely debase the character's physical appearance to such an extreme, felt like he/she was trying to make a point but went full retard with it. social outcasts don't have to take the form of obese dwarves.

that said, I haven't read the novels, but I doubt reading it would make me feel more empathy for him seeing as the basic formula for his history can't change too much whether it be in text or animation


Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru no Darou ka is a fun read

I also caught up with Orange. don't think there's been another series that's consistently made me sigh in frustration and smile with genuine happiness all in the same chapter, lol.
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bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-16 12:39:07
November 16 2014 12:34 GMT
#87749
On November 16 2014 21:18 Numy wrote:
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On November 16 2014 20:48 bluegarfield wrote:
Bakemonogatari ep4: This show is so good. I really like the graphic and colors. Some word plays and jokes flew over my head though
still crab > snail. Not much of Hanekawa yet so not listed. I don't even know what animal spirit she represents


Hanekawa is cat. Crab won't lose steam until you get more bat in Nise and second series. Cat is awful. Only 2 people think she's good.


Sure, gotta wait for more, but crab already set a high standard.

On November 16 2014 21:22 AsnSensation wrote:
I haven't read the lightnovels but apparently Mother's Rosario has a lot of feels in store. Yuuki is already contender for best girlu although she's only appeared like 5minutes. Judging from the opening Asuna'a new raidgroup seems to be the first smart one, at least they have a tank and aren't full glasscanon like the Calibre arc raidgroup.

Already miss Sinon though


+ Show Spoiler [SAO Mother's Rosario] +

It is gonna have a lot of feels, just some part are too cheesy. Another good thing is the part about Asuna's home background, a bit short but can be related to.

Regarding the raid group, actually they normally have at least a tank in other raiding scenes. Calibre arc is just an odd one out, because the tank within Kirito's group is Agil, who is busy running his bar and can't join their raid, so it's not really their fault to go full glasscannon
Regarding Sinon + Show Spoiler +
iirc she wont feature more after this. Her arc was GGO and that is more or less it. She become another Liz, which is not really a surprise. Even Suguha doesn't feature much any more.

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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66307 Posts
November 16 2014 12:37 GMT
#87750
before i start watching, (recommended by my friends but i wanna ask)

Poll: Is log horizon a superior SAO?

Yes (17)
 
71%

Others (4)
 
17%

No (3)
 
13%

24 total votes

Your vote: Is log horizon a superior SAO?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Others



POGGERS
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-16 12:45:42
November 16 2014 12:42 GMT
#87751
SAO and Log horizon are nothing alike outside of the game aspect and comparing them is dumb imo. They are completely different stories with wildly different approaches.
That said i prefer log horizon to SAO by a lot.

But yeah, don't go into log horizon expecting a SAO-esque story.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66307 Posts
November 16 2014 12:47 GMT
#87752
oh damn :< i thought they're similar kind.. so just the basis is the same? in what way is it superior? (non-spoiler plz lol)
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-16 12:53:14
November 16 2014 12:49 GMT
#87753
On November 16 2014 21:47 konadora wrote:
oh damn :< i thought they're similar kind.. so just the basis is the same? in what way is it superior? (non-spoiler plz lol)


It's better in every single way and also entirely different.

SAO is MMO in name only. It's purely story about an OP MC beating up everyone and getting everything a teenager dreams of. That's why you get loli love, a dutchwife, sinon ass online, cat girls, lightsabers etc. etc. LH is more a show about people being stuck in an actual MMO and how they go about living in that world. It has real characters and story. Some characters are cliches but overall it's a lot better than SAO.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-16 12:53:15
November 16 2014 12:51 GMT
#87754
The two key things i feel made Log horizon far more enjoyable was that there is a wider cast of likable characters that are all relevant to the story(You know the whole MMO aspect which typically focuses around player interaction) and it manages to blend the whole game aspect into the story far better than SAO did.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66307 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-16 12:53:09
November 16 2014 12:52 GMT
#87755
hmm okay, i'll see if i like the story. i personally really liked SAO arc story (then again i'm a sucker for romance and the "laid back" style it was like, as well as the unique MMO-esque world and the system was very fascinating), but i'm not sure what LH offers. shall try and report back here :p i've seen some pics of the anime but i didn't really like them though hahhaha

edit: okay i see, if the plot is good then i can overcome the art style i guess, and especially since they emphasis the MMO aspect more. thanks!
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44206 Posts
November 16 2014 12:52 GMT
#87756
i'll just point out the good parts of both shows that i noticed

SAO : has many really sick fight scenes(all those boss battles), has a strong start and the bobbies are real.
LH : the "world building" was a spectacle to watch.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 16 2014 12:54 GMT
#87757
Why not watch both.
bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-16 12:56:25
November 16 2014 12:54 GMT
#87758
On November 16 2014 21:47 konadora wrote:
oh damn :< i thought they're similar kind.. so just the basis is the same? in what way is it superior? (non-spoiler plz lol)


If you really want to compare, may be LH is somewhat similar to SAO ARC 1 in the sense that the game world becomes their reality and they have to survive in that somehow. But after ARC 1 SAO deviate greatly from that, going more towards the possibility of full-dive technology and other random harem bullshit, whereas LH pretty much stick to its premise.

Saying one is superior to other while not being the same category is hard. But LH is somewhat better than SAO because things are consistent, like characters' reaction to their situation, how players adapt, detailed explanation of game and world mechanics, and most importantly how the game world evolves. I would say LH gives you better experience of how actually living in a gaming world is like as compare to SAO

edit: If you like SAO arc, then you would probably like LH, unless the slow pace/art style is not your taste
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66307 Posts
November 16 2014 13:00 GMT
#87759
On November 16 2014 21:54 AsnSensation wrote:
Why not watch both.


already watched SAO1, not sure if i should proceed on to SAO2 for GGO :v

On November 16 2014 21:54 bluegarfield wrote:
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On November 16 2014 21:47 konadora wrote:
oh damn :< i thought they're similar kind.. so just the basis is the same? in what way is it superior? (non-spoiler plz lol)


If you really want to compare, may be LH is somewhat similar to SAO ARC 1 in the sense that the game world becomes their reality and they have to survive in that somehow. But after ARC 1 SAO deviate greatly from that, going more towards the possibility of full-dive technology and other random harem bullshit, whereas LH pretty much stick to its premise.

Saying one is superior to other while not being the same category is hard. But LH is somewhat better than SAO because things are consistent, like characters' reaction to their situation, how players adapt, detailed explanation of game and world mechanics, and most importantly how the game world evolves. I would say LH gives you better experience of how actually living in a gaming world is like as compare to SAO

edit: If you like SAO arc, then you would probably like LH, unless the slow pace/art style is not your taste

aight thanks! gives me more desire to watch LH haha hopefully i can make do with the art style.. it really isn't my type lol
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50470 Posts
November 16 2014 13:01 GMT
#87760
On November 16 2014 21:37 konadora wrote:
before i start watching, (recommended by my friends but i wanna ask)

Poll: Is log horizon a superior SAO?

Yes (17)
 
71%

Others (4)
 
17%

No (3)
 
13%

24 total votes

Your vote: Is log horizon a superior SAO?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Others




konapls

why is this even a poll, go watch log horizon.

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