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On November 01 2010 23:29 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I'm a little confused, what is a "solid" Anime?
Is there suddenly a difference between a "solid" Anime and an Anime with quality (the above post put a slash between the two)......
I mean....I think that Ore no Imouto, seriously, is good. I don't watch a lot of others, so I can't compare....but it's a fresh new concept with a topic area that some people are a bit surprised to watch. The dialogue is nice and the characters are interesting because each character bares something new that I haven't seen before.
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I will admit, there was a point in ep5 of Imouto where I felt that Kirino was molding back into your average younger sister who hates her brother for not caring for her. But the scenes before and after that allowed me to forgive that.
I think you are just needlessly complicating things, and your inexperience in the world of anime shows. He obviously meant that whether it was a solid or quality anime what you described is not. How can you say that it is a 'fresh new concept' when you 'don't watch a lot of others'. That's essentially a clear contradiction. Well, not to be negative, I'm going to give it a few episodes and then we'll see if you're right about it being a 'fresh new concept', but it seems like a typical slice of life comedy to me. Just because the brother doesn't necessarily have romantic feelings for his sister, which seems to be some kind of fanservice for the retarded incest-loving otakus in japan doesn't mean that the anime is 'unique'. On a second thought, maybe it is about sibling love...
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On November 01 2010 17:15 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 16:15 bearbuddy wrote:
Stardust Memory and G Gundam deviate from the formula as well, though I would have to say it's for the worse in the latter case <.< For the worse in G Gundam? That show was awesome, easily one of the best Gundam shows. ...G Gundam is a freakin Super Robot show...
-_-
The two terms are almost mutually exclusive. almost. rawr ._.
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For Shauni:
OreImo tries to tackle head-on the otaku stereotype and stigmatization in Japan; throughout the series there's a lot of conflict between an otaku (or supporter of) and those that look down upon it - of which there are many, as well as the struggles of individuals to be willing to flaunt it.
Personally I feel like it's a re-hashing of standard sexual-orientation stories, as thematically it's the same. One sect of people have a preference that is socially not really accepted, and the series paints them in a sympathetic (and in this case often comedic and in exaggerated) light.
Everything else is basically fanservice, via moe etc.
Is it different from other anime? Depends on which sort of anime. It's certainly a lot more bold and confrontational than a lot of brain-dead stuff, but then again there're bunches of series that have heavy philosophical/political/etc. themes that're much heavier-hitting, especially given that much of the conflict in this series tends to be played out humorously.
IIRC you're not a fan of the fanservice etc. so I'd not recommend it.
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It's like a moe version of Densha Otoko in terms of what it tries to deal with, I guess.
With regards to recent anime, uhhh, nothing I'd recommend to you of late, I think, except for maybe Gundam UC and the Black Lagoon OVA. Quality has kinda been bleh the past couple of years.
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Also, by ridiculing the otaku culture and the people with imouto-complex while still staying true to the fanservice and moe of such series you appeal to not only the hardcore otakus but also casual viewers as well. It's a quite common trend in recent anime and manga, Seitokai for example. And there is always an ulterior motive. It doesn't tacke the stereotypes or stigma in a realistic manner, even for a comedy (Genshiken would be a better example for that) and doesn't really serve any purpose in relation to society. I don't really have to say much, Southlight summed up my thoughts pretty well.
In any case, by just judging it by its face value after the first episode there is nothing remotely refreshing about this anime. It felt even more recycled than I was expecting... The little sister has a typical tsundere-behaviour and the brother is just like any Kyon-kun male protagonist. "Fresh new concept" sounds even more hilarious at this point.
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To be fair, if he only watches animes, there wasn't anything that quite went as far as OreImo in the last couple of seasons on the whole Otaku stereotype thing. As for enjoyable, as Southlight put it, if you are not a fan of the fanservice, there isn't much to be recommended for there as the theme isn't particularly revolutionary. The characters are pretty typical and there are no developments outside of the expected. It can still be enjoyable if you can find such things enjoyable, I certainly had some good chuckles myself reading the light novels.
Not sure how much of this is related to my own preferences, but for a tsundere Kirino isn't too horrible, and I've been pretty vocal about my hate of most tsunderes. At the very least, 9tsun1dere, even if you expect it, is pretty hilarious.
Meh at times I really think people should put massive disclaimers about their preferences before putting up their opinions.
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is there an anime out there that has an Ace Combat 4 feel to it? already watched the Sky Crawlers movie and loved it.
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On November 02 2010 03:58 holdthephone wrote:
is there an anime out there that has an Ace Combat 4 feel to it? already watched the Sky Crawlers movie and loved it.
Macross Plus? Any Macross series has some awesome fighter jet mecha.
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On November 02 2010 03:58 holdthephone wrote:
is there an anime out there that has an Ace Combat 4 feel to it? already watched the Sky Crawlers movie and loved it.
Dunno what Ace Combat 4 is but Last Exile? Laputa? Maybe not so much aircraft to aircraft combat though... Sekai no Senki has a lot of that however, but that's in space.
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On November 02 2010 03:58 holdthephone wrote:
is there an anime out there that has an Ace Combat 4 feel to it? already watched the Sky Crawlers movie and loved it.
Doubt it has that feeling but Sentou Yousei Yukikaze is the only anime I know which could come close to it.
/edit: Probably won't come close as well, it has jets but is rather...err, hm, just look at the genres: action, drama, sci-fi, Space, military, psychological. This way you should know what to (not) expect.
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The Cockpit and Stratos 4 maybe.
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thanks for the recommendations guys, ill get around to checking those out tonight.
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On November 02 2010 00:30 bearbuddy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 17:15 Sentenal wrote:On November 01 2010 16:15 bearbuddy wrote:
Stardust Memory and G Gundam deviate from the formula as well, though I would have to say it's for the worse in the latter case <.< For the worse in G Gundam? That show was awesome, easily one of the best Gundam shows. ...G Gundam is a freakin Super Robot show... -_- The two terms are almost mutually exclusive. almost. rawr ._.
Explain. Apparently, you think Super Robot shows are lame. Why is that? The appeal of Super Robot shows is this: First they make the main character a hot blooded guy who is designed to be the "badass", avoiding all the Shinji-esque bullshit, or all the Kira-crying, and replacing it with Ryoma going batshit insane and beating his enemies down, while wearing a face like this or this. Then they take the climatic action sequences from Real Robot shows (like for example, Freedom blasting away dozens of enemies at the same time, Double X Gundam firing its Satellite Cannons, Unicorn ramming Kshatriya through the colony wall yelled "GET OUT OF HERE!"), and make those the "regular" battles. Then they have even more over the top stuff for their climaxes.
From our conversation about Unicorn, I can tell you like Real Robot shows at least. Honestly in the past, I used to be the same way, in liking Real Robot and disliking Super Robot. Back then I just felt like they were silly, plotless shows. I started to appreciate them more after Gurren Lagann, which despite its flaws, is a great gateway to Super Robot shows. Then Gunbuster showed me they could have a good plot as well. They were over the top, but going over the top and cutting Jupiter in half, or blowing up the center of the galaxy is just part of their appeal. You aren't supposed to ask "How exactly can that Robot lift that huge hammer, and how exactly does it turn whatever it strikes into light particles, and is there really a point in calling out the attack name?" You are supposed to go "HOLY SHIT GOLDION HAMMERRRR"
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On November 02 2010 00:26 Shauni wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 23:29 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I'm a little confused, what is a "solid" Anime?
Is there suddenly a difference between a "solid" Anime and an Anime with quality (the above post put a slash between the two)......
I mean....I think that Ore no Imouto, seriously, is good. I don't watch a lot of others, so I can't compare....but it's a fresh new concept with a topic area that some people are a bit surprised to watch. The dialogue is nice and the characters are interesting because each character bares something new that I haven't seen before.
Yet:
I will admit, there was a point in ep5 of Imouto where I felt that Kirino was molding back into your average younger sister who hates her brother for not caring for her. But the scenes before and after that allowed me to forgive that. I think you are just needlessly complicating things, and your inexperience in the world of anime shows. He obviously meant that whether it was a solid or quality anime what you described is not. How can you say that it is a 'fresh new concept' when you 'don't watch a lot of others'. That's essentially a clear contradiction. Well, not to be negative, I'm going to give it a few episodes and then we'll see if you're right about it being a 'fresh new concept', but it seems like a typical slice of life comedy to me. Just because the brother doesn't necessarily have romantic feelings for his sister, which seems to be some kind of fanservice for the retarded incest-loving otakus in japan doesn't mean that the anime is 'unique'. On a second thought, maybe it is about sibling love...
Oh ok. I guess I get what you mean. Durrr....I'm dumb. xD
Edit: And I see what you mean by the typical...stuff....I guess I wasn't paying close enough attention, and instead watched the show without really comparing the styles with other shows I've watched. If anything, I just compared the magnitude for which I liked them.
I guess I'll just leave a mental note to self saying that I shouldn't recommend stuff until I've watched most of the stuff that's recommended here. >.> Ooohhhh boy.
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I have no clue as to what anime Shauni even likes, so I wouldn't know where to begin giving him recommendations.
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On November 01 2010 15:43 Southlight wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 15:41 PH wrote:
Gundam Seed in particular was meant to be a sort of rehash of the earlier series for the newer generation. Every Gundam series is pretty much the same anyway. There's always a kid who gets a super-powerful robot and kills a bunch of people, then goes through all this crazy stress 'cause of all the people he's killed, then turns into a pacifist and stops the war.
EVERY GUNDAM SERIES. 'Tis why I loved 08th and Stargazer, among others 
I haven't seen Stargazer, but 08th is definitely one of my favorite anime series overall - even if it did get preachy by the end.
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On November 02 2010 05:45 PH wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 15:43 Southlight wrote:On November 01 2010 15:41 PH wrote:
Gundam Seed in particular was meant to be a sort of rehash of the earlier series for the newer generation. Every Gundam series is pretty much the same anyway. There's always a kid who gets a super-powerful robot and kills a bunch of people, then goes through all this crazy stress 'cause of all the people he's killed, then turns into a pacifist and stops the war.
EVERY GUNDAM SERIES. 'Tis why I loved 08th and Stargazer, among others I haven't seen Stargazer, but 08th is definitely one of my favorite anime series overall - even if it did get preachy by the end.
Stargazer was that SEED OVA, wasn't it? That show was way too short. 3 episodes, at 15 minutes each or something like that.
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I felt like the show didn't give you nearly enough time to get attached to the characters. It wasn't even the length of a feature length movie. And even feature length movies like Char's Counterattack suffered from lack of time as well.
I did like the Tank vs Mobile Suit part, though.
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