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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 04:00:36
October 31 2014 03:58 GMT
#86721
Pretty sure Frolossus is into lolis. Just sayin'

@Shock710: if you have the time, I'd recommend it. Considering how much longer it is than KS, it has a better story imo. I didn't care much for the MC in Katawa Shoujo. Yuuji on the other hand is very likable.
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
October 31 2014 04:05 GMT
#86722
cool thanks gonna give it a go
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 31 2014 04:06 GMT
#86723
Enjoy, let us know how you like it :3
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
October 31 2014 04:06 GMT
#86724
On October 31 2014 12:58 NeoIllusions wrote:
Pretty sure Frolossus is into lolis. Just sayin'

@Shock710: if you have the time, I'd recommend it. Considering how much longer it is than KS, it has a better story imo. I didn't care much for the MC in Katawa Shoujo. Yuuji on the other hand is very likable.

i think neo just rates characters based on chest size
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
October 31 2014 04:10 GMT
#86725
On October 31 2014 13:06 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 12:58 NeoIllusions wrote:
Pretty sure Frolossus is into lolis. Just sayin'

@Shock710: if you have the time, I'd recommend it. Considering how much longer it is than KS, it has a better story imo. I didn't care much for the MC in Katawa Shoujo. Yuuji on the other hand is very likable.

i think neo just rates characters based on chest size

i was going for hanako at first and somehow ended up with emi and i was wow shes awesome, went back for hanako in my second play through :D (tho emi definitely my favourite cause of the first play through)
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 31 2014 04:12 GMT
#86726
@Frolossus: I do not..!

@Shock: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
October 31 2014 04:12 GMT
#86727
The 2nd and 3rd Grisaia VNs aren't translated, right? In light of that, I dunno how it would be for a "first" VN. I'd recommend something like FSN or Sharin no Kuni for a first VN. Or, if one wants to be awesome, the Muv-Luv trilogy.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 31 2014 04:15 GMT
#86728
Meikyuu and Rakuen aren't translated yet. I did bother Ecael a lot for spoilers but why not. It'll probably be at least another year++ before Meikyuu gets translated.

Assuming the kickstarter works out, it seems like they're still going to translate GnK first/(again?). idek.

That said, Rakuen OP is glorious...
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Ryuhou)aS(
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1174 Posts
October 31 2014 04:16 GMT
#86729
Well I definitely plan on FSN, in fact that was the whole reason I started thinking about dling VN's in the first place. If you go back far enough, I even asked here about where to look/good place to find them, but like all things, google was all that was needed. The problem was that I'm actually interested in having a clean viewing of the UBW that's airing (and it has been fucking awesome btw), without a bias based on the source material (which is how i prefer my anime in the first place).
BW. There will always be a special place in my heart for the game I spent 10 years to be mediocre at.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 31 2014 04:16 GMT
#86730
Neo confirmed for good KS taste

Chaika is pretty enjoyable right now, Frederika is awesome.
WriterXiao8~~
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
October 31 2014 04:24 GMT
#86731
FSN was an outstanding VN. Of course it had a few problems that nagged the shit out of me (if you happened to read my commentary in this thread as I was going through it) but overall it was a great experience for my 1st VN (is it longer than Grisaia? I spent like 24 hours on each route in FSN so it felt pretty long).

Grisaia as I am playing it seems to have 1) a lot less choices and stuff and 2) less features then the FSN one which allowed you to view the pictures of the scenes separately from the main menu as well as actually telling you how long you have been playing and other misc things 3) The main character has no voice in it as opposed to FSN where every character had a voice, was kinda weird to get used to.

Also Yumiko/Amane/Sachi make it hard to choose best girl. Michiru and Makina are good for some comedy aspects but I tend of weary of them quickly.

Then again, I only started the VN because I knew the short ass anime adaptation would skip a lot and I want to know all the girls back stories and such, sucks that the other 2 aren't translated yet.
Never Knows Best.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 04:28:29
October 31 2014 04:25 GMT
#86732
I think the first VN I ever read was Tsukihime, and then FSN. After that, its kind of a blur what I read next. Probably Ever 17? Ever 17 was really good, the last route in that one just completely blows you away. Sharin similarity blows you away in its last arc.

I don't know how I feel about wanting to watch adaptions before the source. This UBW anime seems to be a rare exception, with the adaption being very good. For a counter example, I for one am extremely glad I read Higurashi before I watched the anime adaptions of it, and didn't have my experience ruined or colored prior to reading. The VN is extremely good, while the animes rank amongst the works I hate the most out of all anime I've completed.

On October 31 2014 13:24 Slaughter wrote:
FSN was an outstanding VN. Of course it had a few problems that nagged the shit out of me (if you happened to read my commentary in this thread as I was going through it) but overall it was a great experience for my 1st VN (is it longer than Grisaia? I spent like 24 hours on each route in FSN so it felt pretty long).

Grisaia as I am playing it seems to have 1) a lot less choices and stuff and 2) less features then the FSN one which allowed you to view the pictures of the scenes separately from the main menu as well as actually telling you how long you have been playing and other misc things 3) The main character has no voice in it as opposed to FSN where every character had a voice, was kinda weird to get used to.

Also Yumiko/Amane/Sachi make it hard to choose best girl. Michiru and Makina are good for some comedy aspects but I tend of weary of them quickly.

Then again, I only started the VN because I knew the short ass anime adaptation would skip a lot and I want to know all the girls back stories and such, sucks that the other 2 aren't translated yet.

More often than not, the main characters of VNs are not voiced. FSN is a rarity in terms of that. Other VNs might only get partial MC voicing, if that. For example, the main character of Muv-Luv pretty much only gets voiced in some rare flashbacks (and its amusing to listen to it since hes voiced by Kira Yamato).
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 31 2014 04:29 GMT
#86733
On October 31 2014 13:24 Slaughter wrote:
FSN was an outstanding VN. Of course it had a few problems that nagged the shit out of me (if you happened to read my commentary in this thread as I was going through it) but overall it was a great experience for my 1st VN (is it longer than Grisaia? I spent like 24 hours on each route in FSN so it felt pretty long).

Grisaia as I am playing it seems to have 1) a lot less choices and stuff and 2) less features then the FSN one which allowed you to view the pictures of the scenes separately from the main menu as well as actually telling you how long you have been playing and other misc things 3) The main character has no voice in it as opposed to FSN where every character had a voice, was kinda weird to get used to.

Also Yumiko/Amane/Sachi make it hard to choose best girl. Michiru and Makina are good for some comedy aspects but I tend of weary of them quickly.

Then again, I only started the VN because I knew the short ass anime adaptation would skip a lot and I want to know all the girls back stories and such, sucks that the other 2 aren't translated yet.

It's still early, np. I had a makeshift ranking of the Mihama girls after a few hours into the game and it changed slightly after finishing a couple routes. My impressions changed after some of their backstories, etc.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
October 31 2014 04:47 GMT
#86734
On October 31 2014 13:29 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 13:24 Slaughter wrote:
FSN was an outstanding VN. Of course it had a few problems that nagged the shit out of me (if you happened to read my commentary in this thread as I was going through it) but overall it was a great experience for my 1st VN (is it longer than Grisaia? I spent like 24 hours on each route in FSN so it felt pretty long).

Grisaia as I am playing it seems to have 1) a lot less choices and stuff and 2) less features then the FSN one which allowed you to view the pictures of the scenes separately from the main menu as well as actually telling you how long you have been playing and other misc things 3) The main character has no voice in it as opposed to FSN where every character had a voice, was kinda weird to get used to.

Also Yumiko/Amane/Sachi make it hard to choose best girl. Michiru and Makina are good for some comedy aspects but I tend of weary of them quickly.

Then again, I only started the VN because I knew the short ass anime adaptation would skip a lot and I want to know all the girls back stories and such, sucks that the other 2 aren't translated yet.

It's still early, np. I had a makeshift ranking of the Mihama girls after a few hours into the game and it changed slightly after finishing a couple routes. My impressions changed after some of their backstories, etc.


+ Show Spoiler +
Omg I just got to the part where Makina is trying to buy the MC to be her dad....the whole scene was so sad...she was so desperate.
Never Knows Best.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 04:57:19
October 31 2014 04:50 GMT
#86735
On October 31 2014 13:47 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 13:29 NeoIllusions wrote:
On October 31 2014 13:24 Slaughter wrote:
FSN was an outstanding VN. Of course it had a few problems that nagged the shit out of me (if you happened to read my commentary in this thread as I was going through it) but overall it was a great experience for my 1st VN (is it longer than Grisaia? I spent like 24 hours on each route in FSN so it felt pretty long).

Grisaia as I am playing it seems to have 1) a lot less choices and stuff and 2) less features then the FSN one which allowed you to view the pictures of the scenes separately from the main menu as well as actually telling you how long you have been playing and other misc things 3) The main character has no voice in it as opposed to FSN where every character had a voice, was kinda weird to get used to.

Also Yumiko/Amane/Sachi make it hard to choose best girl. Michiru and Makina are good for some comedy aspects but I tend of weary of them quickly.

Then again, I only started the VN because I knew the short ass anime adaptation would skip a lot and I want to know all the girls back stories and such, sucks that the other 2 aren't translated yet.

It's still early, np. I had a makeshift ranking of the Mihama girls after a few hours into the game and it changed slightly after finishing a couple routes. My impressions changed after some of their backstories, etc.


+ Show Spoiler +
Omg I just got to the part where Makina is trying to buy the MC to be her dad....the whole scene was so sad...she was so desperate.

+ Show Spoiler +

You think that's sad...

^__^


Btw, how many of you "explore" VNs? Meaning that you actually go through the game based on your gut and pick options that you want.
Not that there's much depth of choice when it comes to Grisaia but I actually looked up the walk through for GnK and did routes that I wanted to do first.
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
October 31 2014 04:58 GMT
#86736
On October 31 2014 13:50 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 13:47 Slaughter wrote:
On October 31 2014 13:29 NeoIllusions wrote:
On October 31 2014 13:24 Slaughter wrote:
FSN was an outstanding VN. Of course it had a few problems that nagged the shit out of me (if you happened to read my commentary in this thread as I was going through it) but overall it was a great experience for my 1st VN (is it longer than Grisaia? I spent like 24 hours on each route in FSN so it felt pretty long).

Grisaia as I am playing it seems to have 1) a lot less choices and stuff and 2) less features then the FSN one which allowed you to view the pictures of the scenes separately from the main menu as well as actually telling you how long you have been playing and other misc things 3) The main character has no voice in it as opposed to FSN where every character had a voice, was kinda weird to get used to.

Also Yumiko/Amane/Sachi make it hard to choose best girl. Michiru and Makina are good for some comedy aspects but I tend of weary of them quickly.

Then again, I only started the VN because I knew the short ass anime adaptation would skip a lot and I want to know all the girls back stories and such, sucks that the other 2 aren't translated yet.

It's still early, np. I had a makeshift ranking of the Mihama girls after a few hours into the game and it changed slightly after finishing a couple routes. My impressions changed after some of their backstories, etc.


+ Show Spoiler +
Omg I just got to the part where Makina is trying to buy the MC to be her dad....the whole scene was so sad...she was so desperate.

+ Show Spoiler +

You think that's sad...

^__^


Btw, how many of you "explore" VNs? Meaning that you actually go through the game based on your gut and pick options that you want.
Not that there's much depth of choice when it comes to Grisaia but I actually looked up the walk through for GnK and did routes that I wanted to do first.

i pick routes and stick them in order of preference
playing blind isn't gratifying when you put like 50 hours into a game to get a route you don't like
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
October 31 2014 05:05 GMT
#86737
On October 31 2014 13:58 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 13:50 NeoIllusions wrote:
On October 31 2014 13:47 Slaughter wrote:
On October 31 2014 13:29 NeoIllusions wrote:
On October 31 2014 13:24 Slaughter wrote:
FSN was an outstanding VN. Of course it had a few problems that nagged the shit out of me (if you happened to read my commentary in this thread as I was going through it) but overall it was a great experience for my 1st VN (is it longer than Grisaia? I spent like 24 hours on each route in FSN so it felt pretty long).

Grisaia as I am playing it seems to have 1) a lot less choices and stuff and 2) less features then the FSN one which allowed you to view the pictures of the scenes separately from the main menu as well as actually telling you how long you have been playing and other misc things 3) The main character has no voice in it as opposed to FSN where every character had a voice, was kinda weird to get used to.

Also Yumiko/Amane/Sachi make it hard to choose best girl. Michiru and Makina are good for some comedy aspects but I tend of weary of them quickly.

Then again, I only started the VN because I knew the short ass anime adaptation would skip a lot and I want to know all the girls back stories and such, sucks that the other 2 aren't translated yet.

It's still early, np. I had a makeshift ranking of the Mihama girls after a few hours into the game and it changed slightly after finishing a couple routes. My impressions changed after some of their backstories, etc.


+ Show Spoiler +
Omg I just got to the part where Makina is trying to buy the MC to be her dad....the whole scene was so sad...she was so desperate.

+ Show Spoiler +

You think that's sad...

^__^


Btw, how many of you "explore" VNs? Meaning that you actually go through the game based on your gut and pick options that you want.
Not that there's much depth of choice when it comes to Grisaia but I actually looked up the walk through for GnK and did routes that I wanted to do first.

i pick routes and stick them in order of preference
playing blind isn't gratifying when you put like 50 hours into a game to get a route you don't like

If you think that's bad, go play Kara no Shoujo blind and let us know how that goes.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
October 31 2014 05:11 GMT
#86738
my first VN was Saya no uta. it was pretty fun
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 05:13:31
October 31 2014 05:11 GMT
#86739
On October 31 2014 13:50 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 13:47 Slaughter wrote:
On October 31 2014 13:29 NeoIllusions wrote:
On October 31 2014 13:24 Slaughter wrote:
FSN was an outstanding VN. Of course it had a few problems that nagged the shit out of me (if you happened to read my commentary in this thread as I was going through it) but overall it was a great experience for my 1st VN (is it longer than Grisaia? I spent like 24 hours on each route in FSN so it felt pretty long).

Grisaia as I am playing it seems to have 1) a lot less choices and stuff and 2) less features then the FSN one which allowed you to view the pictures of the scenes separately from the main menu as well as actually telling you how long you have been playing and other misc things 3) The main character has no voice in it as opposed to FSN where every character had a voice, was kinda weird to get used to.

Also Yumiko/Amane/Sachi make it hard to choose best girl. Michiru and Makina are good for some comedy aspects but I tend of weary of them quickly.

Then again, I only started the VN because I knew the short ass anime adaptation would skip a lot and I want to know all the girls back stories and such, sucks that the other 2 aren't translated yet.

It's still early, np. I had a makeshift ranking of the Mihama girls after a few hours into the game and it changed slightly after finishing a couple routes. My impressions changed after some of their backstories, etc.


+ Show Spoiler +
Omg I just got to the part where Makina is trying to buy the MC to be her dad....the whole scene was so sad...she was so desperate.

+ Show Spoiler +

You think that's sad...

^__^


Btw, how many of you "explore" VNs? Meaning that you actually go through the game based on your gut and pick options that you want.
Not that there's much depth of choice when it comes to Grisaia but I actually looked up the walk through for GnK and did routes that I wanted to do first.

Ehh it depends. If it's stuff like Kara no Shoujo then sure, I'll go in blind at first (although I did use a walkthrough after one or two tries due to that goddamn map). Otherwise I don't bother.

Most VNs don't really offer much in the way of choice. Either route splits are blatantly obvious, in which case a guide isn't needed, or it's obtuse as fuck, in which case a guide is needed. It doesn't help that bad ends tend to be pretty mediocre.

On October 31 2014 14:05 KazeHydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 13:58 Frolossus wrote:
On October 31 2014 13:50 NeoIllusions wrote:
On October 31 2014 13:47 Slaughter wrote:
On October 31 2014 13:29 NeoIllusions wrote:
On October 31 2014 13:24 Slaughter wrote:
FSN was an outstanding VN. Of course it had a few problems that nagged the shit out of me (if you happened to read my commentary in this thread as I was going through it) but overall it was a great experience for my 1st VN (is it longer than Grisaia? I spent like 24 hours on each route in FSN so it felt pretty long).

Grisaia as I am playing it seems to have 1) a lot less choices and stuff and 2) less features then the FSN one which allowed you to view the pictures of the scenes separately from the main menu as well as actually telling you how long you have been playing and other misc things 3) The main character has no voice in it as opposed to FSN where every character had a voice, was kinda weird to get used to.

Also Yumiko/Amane/Sachi make it hard to choose best girl. Michiru and Makina are good for some comedy aspects but I tend of weary of them quickly.

Then again, I only started the VN because I knew the short ass anime adaptation would skip a lot and I want to know all the girls back stories and such, sucks that the other 2 aren't translated yet.

It's still early, np. I had a makeshift ranking of the Mihama girls after a few hours into the game and it changed slightly after finishing a couple routes. My impressions changed after some of their backstories, etc.


+ Show Spoiler +
Omg I just got to the part where Makina is trying to buy the MC to be her dad....the whole scene was so sad...she was so desperate.

+ Show Spoiler +

You think that's sad...

^__^


Btw, how many of you "explore" VNs? Meaning that you actually go through the game based on your gut and pick options that you want.
Not that there's much depth of choice when it comes to Grisaia but I actually looked up the walk through for GnK and did routes that I wanted to do first.

i pick routes and stick them in order of preference
playing blind isn't gratifying when you put like 50 hours into a game to get a route you don't like

If you think that's bad, go play Kara no Shoujo blind and let us know how that goes.

I guess that girl at the first scene went in blind.
Liquipedia
Ryuhou)aS(
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1174 Posts
October 31 2014 05:44 GMT
#86740
Well I plan on making my first play through a "blind" exploration. I'd like to pick the options I would choose (admittedly that's not very many in GnK). But, after that i'll go find a walkthrough. I have been saving pretty frequently (are other VN's like this) since there's no split until much later I plan to cut out as much of the basic beginning stuff as possible. And a trick i picked up from rpg's is to spread out the saves into other save slots, and only replace one when you're absolutely positive you won't need to go back to that point in time (in RPG's i tend to use like 5 or 6 save slots...a little redundant but it has saved me hours of doing the same thing again many times).
BW. There will always be a special place in my heart for the game I spent 10 years to be mediocre at.
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