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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 27 2014 05:00 GMT
#80201
What's the order for the fate series?

On July 27 2014 06:19 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2014 03:56 BigFan wrote:
So guys, which one are you? lol.
http://9gag.com/gag/aYbzPp7


Someone from another forum linked that to me and said that I was the critic.

hmm not sure tbh. I mean, I've seen you criticize but don't think I've seen you criticize popular anime enough to make that connection lol. That or you're not very vocal about it
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
July 27 2014 05:04 GMT
#80202
On July 27 2014 07:22 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2014 07:20 Sentenal wrote:
On July 27 2014 07:05 IceHism wrote:
100% sure the new F/SN is heaven's feel. It'll be great too with ufotable making it.

I'm fairly sure its not, because if it was, they would have advertised that, not put as much Saber in the promotional material, and Sakura a shit.

I don't think they care too much about that though. They could stick Saber on literally anything just to boost interest since people like her for some reason.


Maybe beautiful woman in armor ­owns light clothed girls?

I have no idea why Saber is so popular. Maybe because of her ideals?
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
July 27 2014 05:05 GMT
#80203
On July 27 2014 14:00 BigFan wrote:
What's the order for the fate series?

Show nested quote +
On July 27 2014 06:19 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On July 27 2014 03:56 BigFan wrote:
So guys, which one are you? lol.
http://9gag.com/gag/aYbzPp7


Someone from another forum linked that to me and said that I was the critic.

hmm not sure tbh. I mean, I've seen you criticize but don't think I've seen you criticize popular anime enough to make that connection lol. That or you're not very vocal about it



By events, I believe it is FZ then FSN.

But most people will tell you to watch FZ and only read the visual novel (the anime/movie are said to be poor)
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
July 27 2014 05:07 GMT
#80204
On July 26 2014 09:17 Sentenal wrote:
ZNF, here is a list of things on MAL that have been tagged with the "Romance" tag, that I'd also recommend, omitting ones I think you have watched:
Blue Gender
Escaflowne (series, fuck the movie)
Martian Successor Nadesico
Macross, Macross DYRL, Macross 7
G Gundam, Gundam SEED, Gundam 08th MS Team
Godannar s1 and s2


MAL is kind of weird about what it does and doesn't tag as "Romance" lol

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On July 26 2014 09:17 KazeHydra wrote:
On July 26 2014 09:11 Sentenal wrote:
Dragonball the worst show of all time? Really?

Coming from the guy who said Love Hina is the worst harem of all time and that the entire Fate franchise except F/Z is bad.

I suppose it makes more sense with this context.


Blue Gender as romance? There is a relation developping in it, but when thinking of Blue Gender, survival/sci-fi come to mind first.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 27 2014 05:18 GMT
#80205
On July 27 2014 14:05 XenOmega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2014 14:00 BigFan wrote:
What's the order for the fate series?

On July 27 2014 06:19 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On July 27 2014 03:56 BigFan wrote:
So guys, which one are you? lol.
http://9gag.com/gag/aYbzPp7


Someone from another forum linked that to me and said that I was the critic.

hmm not sure tbh. I mean, I've seen you criticize but don't think I've seen you criticize popular anime enough to make that connection lol. That or you're not very vocal about it



By events, I believe it is FZ then FSN.

But most people will tell you to watch FZ and only read the visual novel (the anime/movie are said to be poor)

so, only two of them then? For some reason, I thought there were more. Thanks, will look into it then.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-27 05:28:51
July 27 2014 05:27 GMT
#80206
Basically just watch Fate/Zero then go get the VN for FSN (which I haven't done yet but I saw the trainwreck of an anime (in english nonetheless) t.t).

On July 27 2014 14:04 XenOmega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2014 07:22 Elem wrote:
On July 27 2014 07:20 Sentenal wrote:
On July 27 2014 07:05 IceHism wrote:
100% sure the new F/SN is heaven's feel. It'll be great too with ufotable making it.

I'm fairly sure its not, because if it was, they would have advertised that, not put as much Saber in the promotional material, and Sakura a shit.

I don't think they care too much about that though. They could stick Saber on literally anything just to boost interest since people like her for some reason.


Maybe beautiful woman in armor ­owns light clothed girls?

I have no idea why Saber is so popular. Maybe because of her ideals?



Her ideals are the thing that are supposed to make her annoying, just like every knightly character in fantasy ever. From Chivalry to some other "code" its one of the most common things for other characters to point out as being annoying and something they almost always have to struggle with as ideals clash with reality.

I think I might like the "concept" of Saber the most, the female king arthur was cool when I 1st heard about it and I loved her overall design and look. The thing I looked up about the Fate series is the background stuff about Saber (her in own time). I am not sure what medium tells that story (might even be one not accessible in english) but that is the story I am probably most interested in and wish they would do a spin off of THAT instead of the one they are doing.
Never Knows Best.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
July 27 2014 05:29 GMT
#80207
Uhhhh, you're supposed to read FSN before you watch F/Z. You can watch F/Z without it, but if you're actually intending on following the franchise the way it's intended, it's VN then F/Z.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
July 27 2014 05:30 GMT
#80208
On July 27 2014 14:18 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2014 14:05 XenOmega wrote:
On July 27 2014 14:00 BigFan wrote:
What's the order for the fate series?

On July 27 2014 06:19 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On July 27 2014 03:56 BigFan wrote:
So guys, which one are you? lol.
http://9gag.com/gag/aYbzPp7


Someone from another forum linked that to me and said that I was the critic.

hmm not sure tbh. I mean, I've seen you criticize but don't think I've seen you criticize popular anime enough to make that connection lol. That or you're not very vocal about it



By events, I believe it is FZ then FSN.

But most people will tell you to watch FZ and only read the visual novel (the anime/movie are said to be poor)

so, only two of them then? For some reason, I thought there were more. Thanks, will look into it then.


On June 29 2014 04:22 ragz_gt wrote:
Fate/Stay Night is just + Show Spoiler +
Nanoha getting lonely
a visual novel by Nasu Kinoko that has 3 route. Anime mostly focus on Fate (Saber) route but randomly has elements from all 3 mixed in, resulting in a confusing mess.
Unlimited Blade Works is Rin / Archer arc, the movie does an OK job but it's more targeted as a service to VN reader than actually coherent. F/SN VN is fan translated and pretty easy to find, and highly recommended to understand whole Fate series.

Fate/Hollow Ataraxia is the direct sequel to F/SN, it's a fan service disk with mostly random stories and somewhat of an overall plot. It's not available in English.

Fate/Zero is the prequel novel by Urobuchi Gen. The anime is a pretty good adaptation with minor differences (mostly Rin's silly adventure).

Fate/Tiger Colosseum and Upper are PSP fighting games that's pretty much blows.

Fate/Unlimited code is PSP fighting game that's better.

Fate/Extra CCC are PSP games set alternative universe that's kind of an imagining of F/SN. They are kind of fun to play but only available in Japanese

Fate/Kaleid Liner is alternative universe manga, currently in the third arc. S1 of anime covered first arc, S2 presumably covers second.

Fate/Apocrypha is a novel by Higashide Yuuichirou that set in alternative universe that has very little to do with Fate franchise.

In addition, Fate has loose relations to Tsukihime franchise and Kara no Kyoukai.

I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
July 27 2014 05:31 GMT
#80209
On July 27 2014 14:29 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Uhhhh, you're supposed to read FSN before you watch F/Z. You can watch F/Z without it, but if you're actually intending on following the franchise the way it's intended, it's VN then F/Z.

Since when have people cared about watching in intended order?

I actually see a lot of people suggest F/Z first because "FSN spoils F/Z."
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
July 27 2014 05:40 GMT
#80210
People are dumb, doesn't mean you should listen to them.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
July 27 2014 05:45 GMT
#80211
If you are only doing the anime, what would the point be watching SN 1st?
Never Knows Best.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
July 27 2014 05:52 GMT
#80212
Get the worst out of the way first to wash the bad taste off with others.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-27 06:04:09
July 27 2014 05:59 GMT
#80213
On July 27 2014 07:22 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2014 07:20 Sentenal wrote:
On July 27 2014 07:05 IceHism wrote:
100% sure the new F/SN is heaven's feel. It'll be great too with ufotable making it.

I'm fairly sure its not, because if it was, they would have advertised that, not put as much Saber in the promotional material, and Sakura a shit.

I don't think they care too much about that though. They could stick Saber on literally anything just to boost interest since people like her for some reason.

You don't care too much about that, that's a difference. Saber, like it or not, is practically the face of the Fate series. And shes all over the promotional material for the new FSN, and shes barely around in Heavens Feel. Shes by far the most popular, so animating a route with minimal presence of by far the most popular character seems highly unlikely.


As far as "what order" does Fate stuff goes in, the only correct order is FSN VN->F/Z. Any other order is wrong, just varying degrees of wrong. Any order involving F/Z first is a pretty bad order, only being surpassed by any order involving the FSN anime.

On July 27 2014 14:07 XenOmega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2014 09:17 Sentenal wrote:
ZNF, here is a list of things on MAL that have been tagged with the "Romance" tag, that I'd also recommend, omitting ones I think you have watched:
Blue Gender
Escaflowne (series, fuck the movie)
Martian Successor Nadesico
Macross, Macross DYRL, Macross 7
G Gundam, Gundam SEED, Gundam 08th MS Team
Godannar s1 and s2


MAL is kind of weird about what it does and doesn't tag as "Romance" lol

On July 26 2014 09:17 KazeHydra wrote:
On July 26 2014 09:11 Sentenal wrote:
Dragonball the worst show of all time? Really?

Coming from the guy who said Love Hina is the worst harem of all time and that the entire Fate franchise except F/Z is bad.

I suppose it makes more sense with this context.


Blue Gender as romance? There is a relation developping in it, but when thinking of Blue Gender, survival/sci-fi come to mind first.

Xen, please into context. ZNF wanted to watch MAL-branded "romance" animes in order to get some Malgraph award. So I recommended him animes that MAL has branded as Romance. I realize what MAL does and doesn't tag as "romance" is strange. And at any rate, there isn't anything strange as Blue Gender getting tagged with that, anyway.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50248 Posts
July 27 2014 06:05 GMT
#80214
On July 27 2014 14:59 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2014 07:22 Elem wrote:
On July 27 2014 07:20 Sentenal wrote:
On July 27 2014 07:05 IceHism wrote:
100% sure the new F/SN is heaven's feel. It'll be great too with ufotable making it.

I'm fairly sure its not, because if it was, they would have advertised that, not put as much Saber in the promotional material, and Sakura a shit.

I don't think they care too much about that though. They could stick Saber on literally anything just to boost interest since people like her for some reason.

You don't care too much about that, that's a difference. Saber, like it or not, is practically the face of the Fate series. And shes all over the promotional material for the new FSN, and shes barely around in Heavens Feel. Shes by far the most popular, so animating a route with minimal presence of by far the most popular character seems highly unlikely.


As far as "what order" does Fate stuff goes in, the only correct order is FSN VN->F/Z. Any other order is wrong, just varying degrees of wrong. Any order involving F/Z first is a pretty bad order, only being surpassed by any order involving the FSN anime.

Show nested quote +
On July 27 2014 14:07 XenOmega wrote:
On July 26 2014 09:17 Sentenal wrote:
ZNF, here is a list of things on MAL that have been tagged with the "Romance" tag, that I'd also recommend, omitting ones I think you have watched:
Blue Gender
Escaflowne (series, fuck the movie)
Martian Successor Nadesico
Macross, Macross DYRL, Macross 7
G Gundam, Gundam SEED, Gundam 08th MS Team
Godannar s1 and s2


MAL is kind of weird about what it does and doesn't tag as "Romance" lol

On July 26 2014 09:17 KazeHydra wrote:
On July 26 2014 09:11 Sentenal wrote:
Dragonball the worst show of all time? Really?

Coming from the guy who said Love Hina is the worst harem of all time and that the entire Fate franchise except F/Z is bad.

I suppose it makes more sense with this context.


Blue Gender as romance? There is a relation developping in it, but when thinking of Blue Gender, survival/sci-fi come to mind first.

Xen, please into context. ZNF wanted to watch MAL-branded "romance" animes in order to get some Malgraph award. So I recommended him animes that MAL has branded as Romance.

next level achievement hunting.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
July 27 2014 06:18 GMT
#80215
On July 27 2014 08:13 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Yo, I guess if people liked Working!, they should check out this manga, which is basically Working! but in a manga store, a tad bit more lewd, but more development and funnier IMO

It's also getting a manga adaptation in Fall 2014. The author also just writes pretty troll manga at times.

[image loading]
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 27 2014 06:29 GMT
#80216
On another note, I recently finished Mai Hime. Overall it was good, although not without its faults (aka its last episode). It starts out okay, but then its its last arc, gets really good. Like a Magical Girl Fate/Stay Night, sorta. Nakahara Mai does a good job as Mai, but Tamura Yukari as Midori claims the spot as "best girl" imoimo. Aside from its bad last episode, I was also disappointed that Mai only wore her cool red scarf in the OP and one scene during the last episode. In the end, Mai Hime made me feel bad about giving Madoka the score I gave it, so I went back and reduced Madoka's score accordingly. I suppose I'll watch Mai Otome next, but I've heard its no where near as good.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Ryuhou)aS(
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1174 Posts
July 27 2014 06:32 GMT
#80217
Any opinions on Gintama ? MAL has it ranked really high in the top list, but i know MAL has some pretty bad ratings to go off of usually. SO...should i watch it?
BW. There will always be a special place in my heart for the game I spent 10 years to be mediocre at.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50248 Posts
July 27 2014 06:39 GMT
#80218
On July 27 2014 15:32 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
Any opinions on Gintama ? MAL has it ranked really high in the top list, but i know MAL has some pretty bad ratings to go off of usually. SO...should i watch it?

it has its own cult following on TL, you absolutely must watch it.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 27 2014 06:46 GMT
#80219
Thanks for all the posts regarding F/S. Will look into it some more based on the posts.

SAO: + Show Spoiler +
lol. I knew as soon as I saw that, that he'll win all those credits. Wonder how long it'll last before he mentions he's a guy or she finds out. Also, would've liked to see his stats rather than just strength and then agility, like actually numbers. Overall though, enjoyed the episode and hope we see more fights in the upcoming ones :D
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-27 06:50:00
July 27 2014 06:49 GMT
#80220
If you watch F/Z first, you might as well not even bother with the FSN, since watching F/Z first makes you a filthy secondarysince F/Z is going to spoil the crap out of FSN, especially Heaven's Feel, the only FSN route that has not gotten animated yet.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
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