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Ryuhou)aS(
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1174 Posts
July 01 2014 00:22 GMT
#78561
Maybe we wouldn't have to go so far as completely overhauling the rec list, but i think like a 2-3 sentence description for each would go a long way. Sort of like the season list has.
BW. There will always be a special place in my heart for the game I spent 10 years to be mediocre at.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
July 01 2014 00:26 GMT
#78562
Ryu (I'm going to call you that from now on), that's too hard. We're too lazy.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 00:30:19
July 01 2014 00:28 GMT
#78563
To be fair, how one rates a show might not be indicative of how much they enjoyed it. You could argue that "enjoyment/feel good" is the most important quality factor, but it's not crazy for someone to rate a show lowly based on other factors (e.g., music, animation, story, general production), Then, there are so many approaches to rating that it would be infeasible to universalize a standard (e.g., starting at a 10 and deducting points for flaws, starting with a 5 and moving from there, curving scores based on seen anime versus all anime, etc.). You don't have to be a masochist to have a low mean.

I'm pretty sure ZNF is just a masochist, though.

On July 01 2014 09:22 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
Maybe we wouldn't have to go so far as completely overhauling the rec list, but i think like a 2-3 sentence description for each would go a long way. Sort of like the season list has.


It's difficult enough to get people happy about what's even on the list. Now you want people to agree on what's important enough to be mentioned in synopses and how much information should even be listed? GLHF :3
xAPOCALYPSEx
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1418 Posts
July 01 2014 00:28 GMT
#78564
On July 01 2014 09:04 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Exactly. I speak from personal experience. Most people won't have as low an average as I do. I think the only person is like...CSheep...oh and Milkis.

I'd say you also but I don't even know if I should take your scores seriously. @__@

As blahz will tell you himself, he just has strong feelings on most shows. Particularly Kampfer and Fault I guess :S

I think the idea that everyone here hates everything comes from the fact that nobody all likes the same thing, so there's always someone to shit on any given show, and we all know each other well enough to know how arguing amongst ourselves is gonna end up. And the rest just don't care to argue.

My average is pretty low too, (at least I think it is) but I guess I rate things differently than most
Ryuhou)aS(
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1174 Posts
July 01 2014 00:38 GMT
#78565
I really don't get a lot of you guys. My average ratings are high. After a couple episodes I can tell if I'm gonna enjoy the show or not, so of the ones I complete the lowest i'll rate is probably around 5 or 6 out of 10 (if it's any lower, i'm not gonna bother watching it). Then, I rate based on enjoyment...Did i enjoy the show? could things have been done better? Maybe they could have, but if I enjoyed the time I spent watching it I'm gonna give it a good rating even if things like story or character development/interaction didn't go the way I wanted.
BW. There will always be a special place in my heart for the game I spent 10 years to be mediocre at.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 00:45:21
July 01 2014 00:42 GMT
#78566
well I've always wondered, if you rated something really low, why did you bother finishing (to rate) it in the first place?

unless it was one of those series that started out fantastic and then the author took a massive shit all over it, but those are few and far between
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
July 01 2014 00:50 GMT
#78567
Some people's tastes change and they reevaluate a show after they've seen it, I guess.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 00:51:56
July 01 2014 00:50 GMT
#78568
On June 30 2014 22:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 21:25 maru~ wrote:
Best Monogatari scene obviously + Show Spoiler [S2 spoiler] +
Mayoi's departure.


tears pls stahp.

+ Show Spoiler +



:[

Dat foreshadowing...



On July 01 2014 09:42 andyrau wrote:
well I've always wondered, if you rated something really low, why did you bother finishing (to rate) it in the first place?

I don't like dropping stuff.

On July 01 2014 09:50 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Some people's tastes change and they reevaluate a show after they've seen it, I guess.

That too.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
July 01 2014 00:51 GMT
#78569
Boredom? To find more material to shit on the show? Or some people just like to finish what they start even if it sucks. I rarely drop shows so my dropped list is pretty small. And some that I have completed I don't even bother to put on my completed list because I don't want to shit up my list (looking at you school days). It really just goes into your philosophy on watching anime.

People with higher average scores are probably more likely to be ones who only add shows decent and up because they don't watch/finish/rate anything they think is terrible. Plus the vastly different ways people score. What I think a score of 8 means entirely something different then someone else.
Never Knows Best.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 01 2014 01:14 GMT
#78570
On July 01 2014 07:59 Emnjay808 wrote:
Lol I associate the sports category with real life sports, not casual tank warfare between school girls.

that attitude is exactly why esports is still where it is !
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 01:19:29
July 01 2014 01:19 GMT
#78571
On July 01 2014 09:51 Slaughter wrote:
Boredom? To find more material to shit on the show? Or some people just like to finish what they start even if it sucks. I rarely drop shows so my dropped list is pretty small. And some that I have completed I don't even bother to put on my completed list because I don't want to shit up my list (looking at you school days). It really just goes into your philosophy on watching anime.

People with higher average scores are probably more likely to be ones who only add shows decent and up because they don't watch/finish/rate anything they think is terrible. Plus the vastly different ways people score. What I think a score of 8 means entirely something different then someone else.

pretty much this though I haven't dropped much shows that I've started watching. If I like something a couple of episodes in, most likely I'll continue enjoying it. I do include all animes I've watched on my list though though I heavily rate based on enjoyment and in some cases, guts of the author to pull off what they did I can go into more details but not a good idea lol.

On July 01 2014 10:14 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 07:59 Emnjay808 wrote:
Lol I associate the sports category with real life sports, not casual tank warfare between school girls.

that attitude is exactly why esports is still where it is !

are you talking about world of tanks?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Ryuhou)aS(
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 01:24:56
July 01 2014 01:19 GMT
#78572
On July 01 2014 09:51 Slaughter wrote:
Boredom? To find more material to shit on the show? Or some people just like to finish what they start even if it sucks. I rarely drop shows so my dropped list is pretty small. And some that I have completed I don't even bother to put on my completed list because I don't want to shit up my list (looking at you school days). It really just goes into your philosophy on watching anime.

People with higher average scores are probably more likely to be ones who only add shows decent and up because they don't watch/finish/rate anything they think is terrible. Plus the vastly different ways people score. What I think a score of 8 means entirely something different then someone else.


That's true...and to be honest, I actually haven't dropped a show yet so my earlier statement about only rating things i like is somewhat misleading. But then again, every show I've seen I've liked to some extent or at the very least found something enjoyable about it.


On July 01 2014 09:26 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Ryu (I'm going to call you that from now on), that's too hard. We're too lazy.


Thats why i want a synopsis on the rec list. B/c im too lazy to go find a description for everything on there I may want to see
BW. There will always be a special place in my heart for the game I spent 10 years to be mediocre at.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 01:24:50
July 01 2014 01:24 GMT
#78573
On July 01 2014 10:19 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 09:51 Slaughter wrote:
Boredom? To find more material to shit on the show? Or some people just like to finish what they start even if it sucks. I rarely drop shows so my dropped list is pretty small. And some that I have completed I don't even bother to put on my completed list because I don't want to shit up my list (looking at you school days). It really just goes into your philosophy on watching anime.

People with higher average scores are probably more likely to be ones who only add shows decent and up because they don't watch/finish/rate anything they think is terrible. Plus the vastly different ways people score. What I think a score of 8 means entirely something different then someone else.

pretty much this though I haven't dropped much shows that I've started watching. If I like something a couple of episodes in, most likely I'll continue enjoying it. I do include all animes I've watched on my list though though I heavily rate based on enjoyment and in some cases, guts of the author to pull off what they did I can go into more details but not a good idea lol.

Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 10:14 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 01 2014 07:59 Emnjay808 wrote:
Lol I associate the sports category with real life sports, not casual tank warfare between school girls.

that attitude is exactly why esports is still where it is !

are you talking about world of tanks?

yeah. How are we supposed to make people acknowledge esports as a sport if we can't even agree that warfare is a sport too.
Spoken like a true german.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
July 01 2014 01:27 GMT
#78574
Sometimes you just can't help but continue watching train wrecks as they occur.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44207 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 01:39:10
July 01 2014 01:31 GMT
#78575
Clearly zerg needs "FUN"

Pretty sure i have never rated stuff lesser than 5.

I am pretty diligent when it comes to rating. For example like SAO i really hate the show but i rate it 7. And even if i don't enjoy the show if the show has good production stuff then i still rate it 6 or 7.

8 for me means i somehow enjoyed then show. 9 for me is that i enjoyed the show. I think i never rated 10 in my life since i am reserving it for the closest to perfect anime.

Actually anime that i really really loved i still rated it 9 like fate zero and haruhi. And if the animehas a really really good quality, it doesn't matter if i don't enjoy it as much i'd still rate it 9.

Basically my 9 and 10 are rated as 9. Anything that is good is 9. Anything that i enjoy is 9.

On July 01 2014 09:50 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Some people's tastes change and they reevaluate a show after they've seen it, I guess.

I agree. I used to like Ah My Goddess and Elemental Gelade. Now i think both shows are terrible.
this is a quote
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
July 01 2014 01:38 GMT
#78576
On June 30 2014 14:47 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 14:13 BigFan wrote:
On June 30 2014 14:02 XenOmega wrote:
On June 30 2014 12:00 BigFan wrote:
On June 30 2014 11:53 XenOmega wrote:
I just found Terra e... (scrolling around myanimelist.net)

Watched the first 2 episodes. Nice nice! I hope the kid's emo state won't last too long ; I'd love to learn more about that crazy future! (Although, I have a strange feeling that it will turn into a rebellion soon enough..)

think it's worth a watch? Read the summary, seems like it'll be interesting to watch.



Well, so far, 2 episodes in, I'm liking it. I'll definitely keep watching. My main concern is that the anime takes the rebellion route too quickly. I enjoy SCI-FI because they portray crazy future. I dislike action stories 'featuring sci-fi elements'. (not sure if that makes any sense...)

I'll try to make an analogy : I love the Zombie genre (AKA : survival and horror). I DISLIKE action-zombie movies (like Resident Evil movies, except maybe for first one) because Zombies become an EXCUSE for action. I don't dislike action, but I prefer a focus over the survival part which, IMO, is the essence of the zombie genre.

I love Sci-Fi. I do enjoy action-sci-fi, but I'd rather get to know more about the universe first before seeing spaceships shooting at each other! Right now, my main fear is that Terra e... will turn into an action anime too fast.

Let me know what you think of the anime when you get to watch a few episodes Bigfan!

hmm so basically, you want the central plot of the story to be about sci-fi and not just a small portion. I guess you mean everything is engulfed in those elements, right? I get what you mean though if you had some anime example, it would help me make sure I got your point lol.

I plan to watch some tommorrow so will definitely let you know what I think of it then


I think Steins;Gate fits this description perfectly. I dont really know of a lot of animes that are good Sci-fi worlds but books I'm very proficient in. Asimov wrote a lot of stuff like that, Ben Bova has a lot too.

Anyways, I watched Tales of Vesperia: First Strike movie today, I really enjoyed it. I loooved the game and its storyline and characters so it was cool to see this. It's a prequel with it's own good standalone story if you haven't played the game. I was surprised it was so good being an "adaptation" from a video game, but what I think they did really well was not try to just tell the same story from the game and come up with a different story that worked. The dog Repede was adorable in this, one of my favorite parts was when they're in a tavern and he finds a spoon and sniffs it, and in the next scene he swapped out the stick he was carrying for the spoon. I also loved how they played the opening scene/music video from the game at the end of the movie/during the credits which makes it feel so connected with the games story.

+ Show Spoiler +
I do love this song..just hearing it that once from watching the movie, and now it'll be in my head for like a week


Unsure if Steins;Gate fit that description haha. It felt like the typical time-travelling story to me.
Say Psycho-Pass for example : Yea you get your usual action scenes, but you still get some scenes explaining their world. Something like that would make me happy (but of course, some of the best sci-fi are in books).

On the other hand, Knights of Sidonia is more action-oriented. You get to see very few aspects of their world which is sad because it seems that it holds alot of potential. (the reactor that is used to burn the elderly, deads and useless? The political system, the cloning system?)

I'm 4 episodes into the serie. Still good, but definitely lacking on the world. More focused on character development.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 02:15:15
July 01 2014 02:10 GMT
#78577
Yo Goody, don't be hatin' on Ahh! My Goddess. Its average at its worst and slightly above average at times.


Xen, Read the manga for Knights of Sidonia: It explains more. Also I think the reactor that burns corpses doesn't burn all those you mentioned I think it was a joke when that was said.
Never Knows Best.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 02:23:10
July 01 2014 02:22 GMT
#78578
On July 01 2014 09:22 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
Maybe we wouldn't have to go so far as completely overhauling the rec list, but i think like a 2-3 sentence description for each would go a long way. Sort of like the season list has.

Not happening, that list was remade not too long ago anyway. They already have enough description as far as genre goes, its not there to completely spoon-feed people.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Ryuhou)aS(
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1174 Posts
July 01 2014 02:51 GMT
#78579
On July 01 2014 11:22 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 09:22 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
Maybe we wouldn't have to go so far as completely overhauling the rec list, but i think like a 2-3 sentence description for each would go a long way. Sort of like the season list has.

Not happening, that list was remade not too long ago anyway. They already have enough description as far as genre goes, its not there to completely spoon-feed people.


but but but....I want the glorious pleasure of being spoon-fed by the Great and Wonderful Sentenal >.<
BW. There will always be a special place in my heart for the game I spent 10 years to be mediocre at.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 03:13:26
July 01 2014 03:13 GMT
#78580
On July 01 2014 11:51 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 11:22 Sentenal wrote:
On July 01 2014 09:22 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
Maybe we wouldn't have to go so far as completely overhauling the rec list, but i think like a 2-3 sentence description for each would go a long way. Sort of like the season list has.

Not happening, that list was remade not too long ago anyway. They already have enough description as far as genre goes, its not there to completely spoon-feed people.


but but but....I want the glorious pleasure of being spoon-fed by the Great and Wonderful Sentenal >.<

Done
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/234486-sentenals-guide-to-mecha
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/332650-sentenals-guide-to-gundam
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
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