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If you come in here looking for "anime recommendations" then please refer to this chart before posting: Anime Recommendations (as of may 2014). We also have an IRC channel called #tladt where we all hang out. The channel is on Rizon, not QuakeNet! Feel free to check it out. TLADT discord is Discord.gg

For currently airing anime, please see Anichart.net
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
June 07 2009 07:57 GMT
#681
On June 07 2009 12:21 HeadBangaa wrote:


An Introduction to Boylove



For a man or an older boy to come to terms with his sexual attraction to boys is often difficult – sometimes even traumatic. Most such males have an inner sense of their attractions from their teens or even earlier, but in today's hysterical climate they tend to repress and deny their feelings. The path to self-acceptance varies among individuals; for a few it is short and straightforward, for others it can be long and complex, and for some it is a dead end. But for those who find their way to the light, the moment of self-understanding is only the beginning of the process of learning how to live in a hostile culture, and hopefully to finding fulfilling ways of interacting with the boys to whom they are attracted.



Boylove is a two-way street. Research 1,2 indicates that, beginning in the vicinity of ages 8 to 12, boys go through a stage where their sexual interests are directed toward other males who are their own age, older, and sometimes younger. It is a part of the process of learning about and experiencing their intrinsic sexuality, has been present in every time and culture, and manifests itself openly in cultures where it is not repressed. Research 1,2,3 also indicate that some older boys and adult males have an understanding and empathy for the sexual experimentations and pleasure-seeking of boys, as well as a willingness and desire to join in their activities. Western victimological culture, however, claims either that boys do not have these interests, or that those who do are disturbed and/or delinquent. Older boys and men who cooperate with these seeking boys are seen as predatory psychopaths.



Boylove has an ancient and honorable history. Mentoring with a sexual component was considered essential to a boy's education in ancient Greece; the 19th century philosopher Schopenhauer 4 described boy/older male sexually expressed relationships as being of "universal nature and persistent ineradicability," psychologist Wilhelm Stekel 5 called them "ubiquitous," and psychiatrist Heinz Kohut 6 spoke of his consensual boyhood sexual experiences with his tutor. The current antipathy toward boylove is generally believed to have originated as part of the broad Judaist sexophobia which was hostile to the more open sexuality of other cultures. This was picked up by the fledgling Christian church, amplified as the church gained more and more power and influence, and codified by Augustine, bishop of Hippo, around 400CE. The rights of boys in Western cultures to free exploration and enjoyment of their own sexuality have been repressed to a greater or lesser degree ever since, as have the rights of older males to accept the overtures of boys.



While all boylovers are boy-attracted pedosexual males, the reverse is not necessarily true. An extreme negative example of this is the occasional male who forces himself physically and sexually on an unwilling boy with only his own gratification in mind. At the other end of the spectrum are those who recognize their sexual attraction, but either because they have been brainwashed into believing that their attraction is "wrong," or out of fear of the consequences, limit themselves to strictly platonic contact with boys, or even completely isolate themselves from boys. According to research 7, the majority of boylovers are spread out between these two extremes, with a plurality taking the position that they will not engage is sexual activity unless it is actively solicited or encouraged by the boy. It must be thoroughly understood, however, that such consensuality has no validity in the eyes of the law, and that any such acts that are discovered most likely will lead to jail.



It is not unusual for boylovers to seek sexual satisfaction apart from boys. "Boy erotica" (which some call "child pornography") is perhaps the most common of these substitutions, and is often used as a stimulus for masturbation. Once again, however, it must be emphasized that the downloading or possession of boy erotica is punishable by law in most jurisdictions, so the "sharing" of such materials is foolishly dangerous. Other outlets are the diverse forums and other Internet interactions in which elements of understanding, support, and counsel may – or may not – be present. Most of these stay within the limits of legality, but one must decide which – if any – of these fulfils his needs. Perhaps the ultimate form of support is the building of real life friendships with other males with similar attractions, but here, even more so than in any other venue, extreme caution is necessary. To associate with someone who commits illegal acts, and especially if you are solicited to participate in those acts, is very likely to lead to serious difficulties with the law.



The life of the responsible boylover in our current hysterical society is, to say the least, difficult. Contacts with boys through sanctioned organizations such as Scouting, boys' clubs, etc., are usually not a problem, but if a boy initiates a one-on-one association with an older male friend, discretion and wisdom are strongly advised in order to preclude any suspicions by those who may become aware of the friendship. Research statistics 8 show that there are many millions of men in the US alone who had such boyhood friendships that included a sexual component, most of which were "non-negative," and of which apparently only a minuscule percentage were known to anyone other than the two participants. Boys need older male role models and friendships, and it is up to the responsible boylover who encounters a seeking boy to construct and conduct such a relationship - non-sexual or sexual - so that it is as free as possible from danger or harm, and is beneficial to both the boy and himself.



Notes:

(1) Sandfort, T. (1987). Boys on their contacts with men. Elmhurst, NY: Global Academic.

(2) Wilson, P. (1981). The man they called a monster. North Melbourne, Australia: Cassell

(3) Freund, K. (1970). The structure of erotic preferences in the nondeviant male. Behavior Research and Therapy, 8, 15-20.

(4) Schopenhauer, A. (1819) Die Welt als Wille und Vorstellung [The world as will and representation] pp. 560-567.

(5) Stekel, W. (1922). Psychosexueller Infantilismus (German). English translation: Patterns of Psychosexual Infantilism by Emil Gutheil (1952) New York: Liveright.

(6) Strozier, C. (2001) The making of a psychoanalyst. New York: Farrar, Strauss, and Giroux.

(7) Riegel, D. (2007). Motivational and Behavioral Characteristics of Boy-attracted Pedosexual Males. Downloaded December 20, 2008 from http://www.mbcbpm.info

(8) Rind, B., Tromovitch, P., & Bauserman, R. (1998). A meta-analytic examination of assumed properties of child sexual abuse. Psychological Bulletin, 124, 22-53.


It's alright, man. We won't think any less of you if you come out of the closet.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
June 07 2009 08:02 GMT
#682
LOL PH <3

I was supposed to visit Comiket last year.. but I was going with a tour group so... ;___;
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
June 07 2009 14:20 GMT
#683
Okay so I watched Eden 09 today.

All I could say after watching the episode was 'What the fuck'.

+ Show Spoiler +

The two guys that ran over Pantsu, are both of them Selecaos? I think only the taller guy is one? Also, Pantsu died. Wtf? How did Akira become a hero? THE SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME D:
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2nd1rst
Profile Joined April 2009
United States40 Posts
June 07 2009 14:49 GMT
#684
On June 07 2009 23:20 konadora wrote:
Okay so I watched Eden 09 today.

All I could say after watching the episode was 'What the fuck'.

+ Show Spoiler +

The two guys that ran over Pantsu, are both of them Selecaos? I think only the taller guy is one? Also, Pantsu died. Wtf? How did Akira become a hero? THE SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME D:

+ Show Spoiler [eden ep 9] +
I'm pretty sure they were both talking on selecao phones. I think they are implying akira is a hero because he evacuated the areas that were hit by missiles. I'm guessing the other selecao was trying to make the japan a better place by killing a bunch of neets with the missles and akira stopped him.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
June 07 2009 14:54 GMT
#685
+ Show Spoiler [Eden ep 9] +

I mean, I know how Akira evacuated all the people and stuff, but I'm reaaaaaaaaally interested in finding out what made him do that and all. They are doing a fantastic job with this series. I really shouted 'wtf' when Pantsu was run over. =/
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samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
June 07 2009 16:39 GMT
#686
I feel like reading a shounen right now. Can anyone recommend me a good shounen that is currently finished or over 100 translated chapters?
My favorite Shounen are:
1)Hajime no Ippo
2)Rurouni Kenshin( Shishio Arc mainly+ the Samurai X movie)
3)Slam Dunk
4)Jojo's Bizzare Adventure Part 3
5)Flame of Recca/HXH

I dont really feel like finishing or continuing the big 3.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
June 07 2009 16:42 GMT
#687
Toriko has like 51 chapters.

http://www.onemanga.com/Toriko/01/

Or try Baki? I loved that shit so much.

http://www.onemanga.com/Baki_-_Son_of_Ogre/1/
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samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
June 07 2009 16:48 GMT
#688
On June 08 2009 01:42 konadora wrote:
Toriko has like 51 chapters.

http://www.onemanga.com/Toriko/01/

Or try Baki? I loved that shit so much.

http://www.onemanga.com/Baki_-_Son_of_Ogre/1/


Didnt enjoy Baki much from what I saw. Is Toriko Ongoing or Complete? Because I have no patience for updates and prefer to read in large batches.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
June 07 2009 16:52 GMT
#689
I really dig Kekkaishi http://www.onemanga.com/Kekkaishi/

Or D.Gray-Man http://www.onemanga.com/D.Gray-Man/

Stories go pretty far and very exciting shit happens.

Neither series is complete but both are 200+, DGM current on hiatus and Kekkaishi comes in small random doses though.
Nak Allstar.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
June 07 2009 16:53 GMT
#690
Toriko is still ongoing
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scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-07 17:33:42
June 07 2009 17:33 GMT
#691
On June 07 2009 16:48 konadora wrote:
;o you're attending comiket?

Obviously not, but its when stuff comes out.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
June 07 2009 17:35 GMT
#692
Comiket has some legendary items that I would love to get my hands on. Especially those special shopping bags :V
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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13086 Posts
June 07 2009 17:37 GMT
#693
I really like eden of the east but is it true that its only 11 episodes? I cant imagine how can the anime end in just 2 more episodes so.... maybe there gonna be a 2nd season??
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Chau
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada408 Posts
June 07 2009 19:54 GMT
#694
One that hasn't been mentioned yet is Gantz, but...it has a mature rating, if I remember correctly. Not really shounen, I guess, but it IS male-oriented and at ~300 chapters and still going.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
June 07 2009 20:00 GMT
#695
Is the Gantz anime any good?
Hello
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-07 20:10:22
June 07 2009 20:05 GMT
#696
Mature manga aimed at males is called seinen not shounen and yes Gantz both the manga and anime is really mature as in both blood and sex.

Unfortunately the anime had to make up its own ending so it's kind of weird at the end, but it's still pretty interesting. It's kind of like a game where you have to kill aliens, expect real that happens if you're killed...

That's pretty much all the story you're going to get from the anime unlike the manga which just hit the 300 chapter mark and is finally going to reveal what the heck "Gantz" is. The anime changes after the "Temple" arc to an ending where the manga goes with the main character changing to more of a leader vs selfish bastard.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
June 07 2009 20:11 GMT
#697
On June 08 2009 02:35 konadora wrote:
Comiket has some legendary items that I would love to get my hands on. Especially those special shopping bags :V

after seeing lucky star and szs's depictions of comiket, i'm really fucking scared of it
posting on liquid sites in current year
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
June 07 2009 20:12 GMT
#698
That sounds interesting. I usually don't have the patience to read through manga...I usually read a good deal for one sitting, then find it difficult to go back and pick up where I left off later.

I've only finished a couple of longer ongoing manga.
Hello
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
June 07 2009 20:13 GMT
#699
On June 08 2009 02:37 SkelA wrote:
I really like eden of the east but is it true that its only 11 episodes? I cant imagine how can the anime end in just 2 more episodes so.... maybe there gonna be a 2nd season??

there's gonna be a full length film right at the end of the anime series
posting on liquid sites in current year
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
June 07 2009 20:16 GMT
#700
On June 08 2009 05:12 PH wrote:
That sounds interesting. I usually don't have the patience to read through manga...I usually read a good deal for one sitting, then find it difficult to go back and pick up where I left off later.

I've only finished a couple of longer ongoing manga.


Well only by reading the manga will you see the most "WTF!?!" monsters ever created like:

+ Show Spoiler +
A monster made of boobs... I'm not even joking -_-
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