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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
November 12 2013 21:32 GMT
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Spazer
Canada8031 Posts
November 12 2013 21:47 GMT
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Maxie
Sweden2653 Posts
November 12 2013 22:00 GMT
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On November 13 2013 06:32 BurningSera wrote: I dont mind that anime changed/has their own story different from the original, but I was expecting alot of explosions from this episode of Arpeggio ![]() What? We got lots of explosions. | ||
Emnjay808
United States10660 Posts
November 12 2013 22:06 GMT
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On November 13 2013 00:10 Zergneedsfood wrote: Show nested quote + On November 13 2013 00:01 BurningSera wrote: On November 12 2013 23:38 Ecael wrote: On November 12 2013 19:43 Emnjay808 wrote: On November 12 2013 19:33 nyxnyxnyx wrote: What exactly does Akatsuki keep calling Shiroe? 'shikun'? Shi = Shiroe, kun = the honorific. She likes to use nicknames and also requests that Shiroe breaks formality when addressing her. Not really sure why, could just be some random character trait she was given to try and make her cuter. Idk. This is bannable offense right. On November 12 2013 20:23 nyxnyxnyx wrote: Damn, this Commie sub is just terrible then. Translating 'shikun' as 'Master' had me so confused. No Commie is right, ignore that dimwit. If you missed the earlier episodes, there was a part where Naotsugu and Shiroe were wandering about why she seems to fixed on roleplaying her character as a ninja. That's the basic explanation of why she calls him master. On November 12 2013 21:36 Emnjay808 wrote: Its pretty normal for names to be subtitled differently than what they really say. I got used to it and just ignore it everytime it happens. Instead of ignoring subs, get your ears checked out first. 主君=shukun=/=shikun. Agreed on that, that's the moe part in her character. Should we all report emjay. Best idea I've heard in months. Lol, BurningSera with a good idea, thats a first xD Anyways abou the Shikun thing... Nothing to see here folks... Move along now. | ||
BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
November 12 2013 22:11 GMT
#65345
On November 13 2013 07:00 Maxie wrote: Show nested quote + On November 13 2013 06:32 BurningSera wrote: I dont mind that anime changed/has their own story different from the original, but I was expecting alot of explosions from this episode of Arpeggio ![]() What? We got lots of explosions. compared to manga, not enough. On November 13 2013 07:06 Emnjay808 wrote: Show nested quote + On November 13 2013 00:10 Zergneedsfood wrote: On November 13 2013 00:01 BurningSera wrote: On November 12 2013 23:38 Ecael wrote: On November 12 2013 19:43 Emnjay808 wrote: On November 12 2013 19:33 nyxnyxnyx wrote: What exactly does Akatsuki keep calling Shiroe? 'shikun'? Shi = Shiroe, kun = the honorific. She likes to use nicknames and also requests that Shiroe breaks formality when addressing her. Not really sure why, could just be some random character trait she was given to try and make her cuter. Idk. This is bannable offense right. On November 12 2013 20:23 nyxnyxnyx wrote: Damn, this Commie sub is just terrible then. Translating 'shikun' as 'Master' had me so confused. No Commie is right, ignore that dimwit. If you missed the earlier episodes, there was a part where Naotsugu and Shiroe were wandering about why she seems to fixed on roleplaying her character as a ninja. That's the basic explanation of why she calls him master. On November 12 2013 21:36 Emnjay808 wrote: Its pretty normal for names to be subtitled differently than what they really say. I got used to it and just ignore it everytime it happens. Instead of ignoring subs, get your ears checked out first. 主君=shukun=/=shikun. Agreed on that, that's the moe part in her character. Should we all report emjay. Best idea I've heard in months. Lol, BurningSera with a good idea, thats a first xD Anyways abou the Shikun thing... Nothing to see here folks... Move along now. I am going to remember your first time now. I can assure you that you won't like that, at all. | ||
Emnjay808
United States10660 Posts
November 12 2013 22:25 GMT
#65346
I thought Kotoha's train cannon was awesome. Then Hime summons the true Dragon Lance, holy shit... Then bam, ED credits... my face -_- | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
November 12 2013 23:04 GMT
#65347
On November 13 2013 00:15 Toadesstern wrote: I have no idea how anyone is suprised at all, yes I'm quoting for the third time: can someone explain this? :S On November 13 2013 01:38 Slaughter wrote: Show nested quote + On November 12 2013 17:22 BigFan wrote: On November 12 2013 13:18 TanKLoveR wrote: On November 11 2013 05:33 BigFan wrote: On November 11 2013 04:59 TanKLoveR wrote: On November 11 2013 04:29 BigFan wrote: On November 11 2013 04:19 TanKLoveR wrote: On November 10 2013 13:41 BigFan wrote: On November 10 2013 05:47 TanKLoveR wrote: I been liking Log Horizon since it started BUT this was the first episode that got me excited about what was going to happen next, really looking forward to the next episode. And is Shiro finally starting to live up to the hype ![]() + Show Spoiler [White Album 2] + Omg just finished watching the new episode, sooooo much stuff happened <.<. I feel like I have to write down my thoughts because they are too many D:. The people who wrote this show are dicks, maybe I'm over thinking but they put so many subtle details that leave me wondering wtf it meant, specially with Setsuna. I still have a feeling that girl is going to end up beheading Haruki and take his head for a ride in her parent's boat lol, there's something really odd about the way she acts. Unless I'm being misled in which case they are even bigger dicks. Those little reactions aside, wow you can tell this girl is head over heels for Haruki <.<, you could tell from episode 1 but this episode wow painfully obvious. As it was with Touma. More than once I thought Touma was going to jump on Haruki lol, not just how she reacted to Haruki taking care of her but telling him all that personal stuff, which she didn't have to. I definitely have to watch this again to count the times I was like "omg what? I have to rewind that..:O". They fucking teased me so hard with Setsuna's reaction to the song when they were telling her about it AND what Haruki said about what happens after the performance <.<, seems like shit is gonna go down :O!. CAN'T WAIT! HURRY UP NEXT SATURDAY!. I probably sound like a girl who likes dramas but whatever, I really like this show ![]() Also, silly BigFan, thinking LogH is from 2007. That show is so epic, one of my favorites. Looks surprisingly good (IMO) for a show that old. YES, YES he shall! He has been hyped so much, I'm hoping we don't get disappointed XD + Show Spoiler [White Album 2] + Watched it. Lots of stuff went down. Let's put it this way: Setsuna LOVES Haruki. Since the first episode, we've seen it. How she acts around him, him knowing her secret job and her spilling her friends background to him and such. We've known she likes him a lot so I think that also colors her perception a lot. Seeing the toothbrush at Touma's place, while it may have been partially about the whole friends left me and I have no friends thing, I think it was also partly due to her loving him. Love makes you do crazy things and she overreacts to it. Why does she like him? I honestly don't know. I can hazard a guess that it's due to the fact that he treats her like everyone else. He doesn't distinguish her from others and I think she mentioned that in the first episode at some point. Maybe she seems something in him from earlier. For all we know, maybe he looks like a previous close friend or bf but I'm overthinking it lol. Either way, we know she likes him a lot. She got Touma to join the band, likely in part for him but also because she wanted to sing White Album with the pianist and guitarist. Touma also likes him but she's not as open about it. I mean, we see Setsuna's reaction when he calls her by her first name and the way she acts. Heck, she was "hiding" behind his back or something in the train? I think he's also somewhat in love with Setsuna based on grabbing her hand and running out of the school. He could've easily just talked to her and apologized but he made it more personal and eye grabbing than it had to be. I saw Touma as acting her role. She's the type of person that acts one way when you talk to her but in the background, she likes him and appreciates it. Why te story? Sharing it with someone she's close to ![]() I'm not sure what Setsuna's reaction at the end was all about. It seemed kind of like her reaction when she saw the tootbrush and freaked out that they didn't tell her. I guess she was taken back at this new revelation. We finally do know that the dream was him writing lyrics but Touma was to add the music which she finished and Setsuna will sing it. I'm not sure how that's a dream though tbh. He does say it took him three years so I guess it's 2010-2011 for them(2007 he wrote it, 3 years later) but I always figured dreams are much bigger and take much longer to accomplish. Either way, my guess is that Setsuna was just taken back and figured it was something between them again that she wasn't a part of but she held herself and went with it. I think after the performance, they are going to split up. There are going to be accusations flying around that he's in league with Touma or prefers her or something. If not that, the band will break up due to the fact that the performance is done and that was the main point of forming the Light music band, wasn't it? It wasn't supposed to be an everlasting thing. Mostly a temporary music group although I doubt he would want it to end. After all, Touma did say back in an episode that she is only joining for Setsuna but that she can't stand her since they are not alike at all. edit: after watching first bit of first episode, I was wrong lol. I think they won't break up due to the accusations as I previously but mostly due to Touma having to leave, maybe a missed chance or something. Spoiler below for more details! Just rewatched the first bit of episode one, omg! Can't believe I missed this: + Show Spoiler + TOUMA IS LEAVING THEM! :O At first, I thought that Haruto will tell her that he loves her and Setsuna will be upset since she was in the back with her head down but they were at a train station or plane terminal or something since the scene after, Setsuna clings to Haruto and like in the train, she hides or I guess just hugs him and such. I think Touma will leave after the performance is done. It said that on the second day of the fair, one Saturday near the end of November so this next episode which is the fair is the last time we'll see them together for a while ![]() I think her mother might come back and 'force' her to come along. Why now? I have no clue but her mother is the provider for the house and such so like in Toradora(father there), she can't just say no(Toradora is a bit different here) since she'll have nowhere to stay and such. Maybe the mother saw that she was indeed talented and gave her the chance of a lifetime. To perform infront of a stage and if you remember the last episode, she would be competing and chasing her mother. In the end, Touma chooses the dream over them and of course, they are devastated. Breaking down, crying, Setsuna is speechless and all Haruki can do is give her a hug hoping that she'll change her mind. She doesn't, maybe partially because she sees that Setsuna likes him(and wants to follow her dream) and with that, the band is broken. Setsuna never sings again and Haruki can't even play the guitar well anymore. In other words, PREPARE YOURSELF BECAUSE I'M 99.99% CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS THE CASE! ![]() ![]() ![]() hehe, a much better discussion than yours. You're losing TankLoveR! ![]() Adding a lot of fluff just to create more paragraphs doesn't really make it a better discussion (bold'd), that's stuff we already knew. + Show Spoiler + I still think her issue is 90% with them being too close, not Touma stealing Haruki, also it's HARUKI not Haruto, gtfo that shounen crap lol. Sure she was a little jealous but I think her fear of being left out was way bigger at that point than omg nowai touma is stealing my man D:. Why Setsuna likes Haruki is as obvious as the fact that she likes him, now WHY Touma likes him, that's the real question here. She obviously liked him for a while since she seemed to know quite a bit about him and was paying attention to what he was up to, but why that is the mystery here IMO. I get that she shared that whole thing with him because she likes him, but she's usually so cryptic and tries really hard not to show any feelings towards anyone (guess: probably abandonment issues because of her mom). I thought she was going to stay that way for a while at least until she saw her mom and maybe fixed their relationship but yeah I can see where she's progressing. Dude how can you say it's 2011 when the clock says 2007? are you crazy? lol. He couldn't have been working on it since 2004? it says 2007 because that's the current year. Also a dream can be anything, maybe he wants to write songs and this is a step in that direction. 3 Years is a lot of time to be working in one of your dreams, specially if you're in high school sounds about right to be, if he joined the band because they were going to let him write the songs that sounds like a good idea for him if that's what he likes. Her reaction was for me half toothbrush-gate and half when they told her about the weekend thing, to be honest I don't know if it's exactly because she feels they are hmm hiding shit from her again like with the toothbrush, it felt different. I mean this case it wasn't even their "fault" they didn't really hide anything, Lizuka gave it to Touma and Haruki didn't know about it, if she thinks they are hiding shit from her again and gets mad over that then she's got issues imo. As I said, I think this girl is mentally unstable and or very two faced, I'm waiting for her to snap any second now. You obviously didn't get the school days reference hahaha but yeah, for ME she's crazy and Haruki should stay the fuck away. Now that other stuff is decent discussion lol. I never thought of it that way to be honest, I always pictured that was just Haruki chasing after Touma and confessing to her etc and she rejects him while Setsuna was around, didn't think she would leave after the mom comes back for the performance but that would make sense. It seems that the mom meant back when she didn't take Touma with her that she wasn't talented enough to bring her? but now she might be so she will ask her to come with her. That makes sense imo. It seems to me Touma wants to be with her mom even if she's mad that she was abandoned, kind of like Toradora yes. So I doubt she would have to be forced to go anywhere, but I'm definitely more curious bout this train scene now. I think Setsuna was super embarrassed by the whole thing that happened with Haruki, I mean you saw how insecure she was about wearing that dress in front of him, then he just grabs her and "steals her away", they jump in a train filled with people and she's dressed like that so she's even more embarrassed because there's tons of people looking and Haruki AND now she's holding him so less people see her BUT she's also holding him like that which I'm sure is something she wanted to do but it's also embarrassing because it's the first time. Setsuna is a mess as I said before, half of the time I don't know why she does the things she does, she's not as easy to read as Haruki and Touma because SHE'S CRAZY!. If Touma leaves and they are left alone I wonder if they are going to pull a Kimi Nozo or if she'll come back quickly to FIGHT FOR HER MAN GOD DAMN IT!. Hmm I'm really curious about if Lizuka is going to talk to Haruki about why the notebook, I mean hmm, I want to know why Lizuka thought giving it to Touma was the right thing to do as opposed to presenting it to the whole club (Setsuna). I wonder if Setsuna thought about that moment when Haruki shut Lizuka up as he was bringing that up while she was around, maybe she noticed that and she's like "hey if it's not a secret why did he do that?". That's a bit of a stretch but it's a possibility, I really want to know when Lizuka told him about giving Touma the song because I didn't see anything about that, did you?. Everyone at that school is going to think Setsuna and Haruki are dating now, I mean as if it wasn't enough they are calling each other by their first name, then Haruki comes and steals her away like that... I wonder if when Touma comes back to school she will hear rumors about that and maybe get jealous? kind of like Minori ![]() To be honest after watching the episode I was like omg what? there was a lot going on (mostly Setsuna being crazy Setsuna) and I honestly couldn't articulate it all well hahaha <.<. I'll watch it again later and maybe post again see if I notice anything else, there is always more details to this thing lol I even look at the background specially in Touma's house to see if there is some subtle clue towards something lol. And yeah I really do think it's 2007, I doubt very much that it's 2011 lol O.o, why would the clock lie!? WHY!!!? :O A clock has no reason to lie to us, it's not like the clock is Setsuna! ![]() I was doing a recap of what we know about her feelings and so >.> ps even with the 'fluff', it's still more insightful than your original post ![]() Only because you apparently just discovered there was an episode 1 lol, and Setsuna is boring when it comes to Haruki, she wants his dick we know why and since when. Now, everything else about her, bitches be crazy. :O so mean to Setsuna >.> lol. I went back to rewatch the first bit since I only watched it once. Background info is till important ^^ On November 11 2013 04:19 TanKLoveR wrote: On November 10 2013 13:41 BigFan wrote: On November 10 2013 05:47 TanKLoveR wrote: I been liking Log Horizon since it started BUT this was the first episode that got me excited about what was going to happen next, really looking forward to the next episode. And is Shiro finally starting to live up to the hype ![]() + Show Spoiler [White Album 2] + Omg just finished watching the new episode, sooooo much stuff happened <.<. I feel like I have to write down my thoughts because they are too many D:. The people who wrote this show are dicks, maybe I'm over thinking but they put so many subtle details that leave me wondering wtf it meant, specially with Setsuna. I still have a feeling that girl is going to end up beheading Haruki and take his head for a ride in her parent's boat lol, there's something really odd about the way she acts. Unless I'm being misled in which case they are even bigger dicks. Those little reactions aside, wow you can tell this girl is head over heels for Haruki <.<, you could tell from episode 1 but this episode wow painfully obvious. As it was with Touma. More than once I thought Touma was going to jump on Haruki lol, not just how she reacted to Haruki taking care of her but telling him all that personal stuff, which she didn't have to. I definitely have to watch this again to count the times I was like "omg what? I have to rewind that..:O". They fucking teased me so hard with Setsuna's reaction to the song when they were telling her about it AND what Haruki said about what happens after the performance <.<, seems like shit is gonna go down :O!. CAN'T WAIT! HURRY UP NEXT SATURDAY!. I probably sound like a girl who likes dramas but whatever, I really like this show ![]() Also, silly BigFan, thinking LogH is from 2007. That show is so epic, one of my favorites. Looks surprisingly good (IMO) for a show that old. YES, YES he shall! He has been hyped so much, I'm hoping we don't get disappointed XD + Show Spoiler [White Album 2] + Watched it. Lots of stuff went down. Let's put it this way: Setsuna LOVES Haruki. Since the first episode, we've seen it. How she acts around him, him knowing her secret job and her spilling her friends background to him and such. We've known she likes him a lot so I think that also colors her perception a lot. Seeing the toothbrush at Touma's place, while it may have been partially about the whole friends left me and I have no friends thing, I think it was also partly due to her loving him. Love makes you do crazy things and she overreacts to it. Why does she like him? I honestly don't know. I can hazard a guess that it's due to the fact that he treats her like everyone else. He doesn't distinguish her from others and I think she mentioned that in the first episode at some point. Maybe she seems something in him from earlier. For all we know, maybe he looks like a previous close friend or bf but I'm overthinking it lol. Either way, we know she likes him a lot. She got Touma to join the band, likely in part for him but also because she wanted to sing White Album with the pianist and guitarist. Touma also likes him but she's not as open about it. I mean, we see Setsuna's reaction when he calls her by her first name and the way she acts. Heck, she was "hiding" behind his back or something in the train? I think he's also somewhat in love with Setsuna based on grabbing her hand and running out of the school. He could've easily just talked to her and apologized but he made it more personal and eye grabbing than it had to be. I saw Touma as acting her role. She's the type of person that acts one way when you talk to her but in the background, she likes him and appreciates it. Why te story? Sharing it with someone she's close to ![]() I'm not sure what Setsuna's reaction at the end was all about. It seemed kind of like her reaction when she saw the tootbrush and freaked out that they didn't tell her. I guess she was taken back at this new revelation. We finally do know that the dream was him writing lyrics but Touma was to add the music which she finished and Setsuna will sing it. I'm not sure how that's a dream though tbh. He does say it took him three years so I guess it's 2010-2011 for them(2007 he wrote it, 3 years later) but I always figured dreams are much bigger and take much longer to accomplish. Either way, my guess is that Setsuna was just taken back and figured it was something between them again that she wasn't a part of but she held herself and went with it. I think after the performance, they are going to split up. There are going to be accusations flying around that he's in league with Touma or prefers her or something. If not that, the band will break up due to the fact that the performance is done and that was the main point of forming the Light music band, wasn't it? It wasn't supposed to be an everlasting thing. Mostly a temporary music group although I doubt he would want it to end. After all, Touma did say back in an episode that she is only joining for Setsuna but that she can't stand her since they are not alike at all. edit: after watching first bit of first episode, I was wrong lol. I think they won't break up due to the accusations as I previously but mostly due to Touma having to leave, maybe a missed chance or something. Spoiler below for more details! Just rewatched the first bit of episode one, omg! Can't believe I missed this: + Show Spoiler + TOUMA IS LEAVING THEM! :O At first, I thought that Haruto will tell her that he loves her and Setsuna will be upset since she was in the back with her head down but they were at a train station or plane terminal or something since the scene after, Setsuna clings to Haruto and like in the train, she hides or I guess just hugs him and such. I think Touma will leave after the performance is done. It said that on the second day of the fair, one Saturday near the end of November so this next episode which is the fair is the last time we'll see them together for a while ![]() I think her mother might come back and 'force' her to come along. Why now? I have no clue but her mother is the provider for the house and such so like in Toradora(father there), she can't just say no(Toradora is a bit different here) since she'll have nowhere to stay and such. Maybe the mother saw that she was indeed talented and gave her the chance of a lifetime. To perform infront of a stage and if you remember the last episode, she would be competing and chasing her mother. In the end, Touma chooses the dream over them and of course, they are devastated. Breaking down, crying, Setsuna is speechless and all Haruki can do is give her a hug hoping that she'll change her mind. She doesn't, maybe partially because she sees that Setsuna likes him(and wants to follow her dream) and with that, the band is broken. Setsuna never sings again and Haruki can't even play the guitar well anymore. In other words, PREPARE YOURSELF BECAUSE I'M 99.99% CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS THE CASE! ![]() ![]() ![]() hehe, a much better discussion than yours. You're losing TankLoveR! ![]() Adding a lot of fluff just to create more paragraphs doesn't really make it a better discussion (bold'd), that's stuff we already knew. + Show Spoiler + I still think her issue is 90% with them being too close, not Touma stealing Haruki, also it's HARUKI not Haruto, gtfo that shounen crap lol. Sure she was a little jealous but I think her fear of being left out was way bigger at that point than omg nowai touma is stealing my man D:. Why Setsuna likes Haruki is as obvious as the fact that she likes him, now WHY Touma likes him, that's the real question here. She obviously liked him for a while since she seemed to know quite a bit about him and was paying attention to what he was up to, but why that is the mystery here IMO. I get that she shared that whole thing with him because she likes him, but she's usually so cryptic and tries really hard not to show any feelings towards anyone (guess: probably abandonment issues because of her mom). I thought she was going to stay that way for a while at least until she saw her mom and maybe fixed their relationship but yeah I can see where she's progressing. Dude how can you say it's 2011 when the clock says 2007? are you crazy? lol. He couldn't have been working on it since 2004? it says 2007 because that's the current year. Also a dream can be anything, maybe he wants to write songs and this is a step in that direction. 3 Years is a lot of time to be working in one of your dreams, specially if you're in high school sounds about right to be, if he joined the band because they were going to let him write the songs that sounds like a good idea for him if that's what he likes. Her reaction was for me half toothbrush-gate and half when they told her about the weekend thing, to be honest I don't know if it's exactly because she feels they are hmm hiding shit from her again like with the toothbrush, it felt different. I mean this case it wasn't even their "fault" they didn't really hide anything, Lizuka gave it to Touma and Haruki didn't know about it, if she thinks they are hiding shit from her again and gets mad over that then she's got issues imo. As I said, I think this girl is mentally unstable and or very two faced, I'm waiting for her to snap any second now. You obviously didn't get the school days reference hahaha but yeah, for ME she's crazy and Haruki should stay the fuck away. Now that other stuff is decent discussion lol. I never thought of it that way to be honest, I always pictured that was just Haruki chasing after Touma and confessing to her etc and she rejects him while Setsuna was around, didn't think she would leave after the mom comes back for the performance but that would make sense. It seems that the mom meant back when she didn't take Touma with her that she wasn't talented enough to bring her? but now she might be so she will ask her to come with her. That makes sense imo. It seems to me Touma wants to be with her mom even if she's mad that she was abandoned, kind of like Toradora yes. So I doubt she would have to be forced to go anywhere, but I'm definitely more curious bout this train scene now. I think Setsuna was super embarrassed by the whole thing that happened with Haruki, I mean you saw how insecure she was about wearing that dress in front of him, then he just grabs her and "steals her away", they jump in a train filled with people and she's dressed like that so she's even more embarrassed because there's tons of people looking and Haruki AND now she's holding him so less people see her BUT she's also holding him like that which I'm sure is something she wanted to do but it's also embarrassing because it's the first time. Setsuna is a mess as I said before, half of the time I don't know why she does the things she does, she's not as easy to read as Haruki and Touma because SHE'S CRAZY!. If Touma leaves and they are left alone I wonder if they are going to pull a Kimi Nozo or if she'll come back quickly to FIGHT FOR HER MAN GOD DAMN IT!. Hmm I'm really curious about if Lizuka is going to talk to Haruki about why the notebook, I mean hmm, I want to know why Lizuka thought giving it to Touma was the right thing to do as opposed to presenting it to the whole club (Setsuna). I wonder if Setsuna thought about that moment when Haruki shut Lizuka up as he was bringing that up while she was around, maybe she noticed that and she's like "hey if it's not a secret why did he do that?". That's a bit of a stretch but it's a possibility, I really want to know when Lizuka told him about giving Touma the song because I didn't see anything about that, did you?. Everyone at that school is going to think Setsuna and Haruki are dating now, I mean as if it wasn't enough they are calling each other by their first name, then Haruki comes and steals her away like that... I wonder if when Touma comes back to school she will hear rumors about that and maybe get jealous? kind of like Minori ![]() To be honest after watching the episode I was like omg what? there was a lot going on (mostly Setsuna being crazy Setsuna) and I honestly couldn't articulate it all well hahaha <.<. I'll watch it again later and maybe post again see if I notice anything else, there is always more details to this thing lol I even look at the background specially in Touma's house to see if there is some subtle clue towards something lol. And yeah I really do think it's 2007, I doubt very much that it's 2011 lol O.o, why would the clock lie!? WHY!!!? :O A clock has no reason to lie to us, it's not like the clock is Setsuna! ![]() + Show Spoiler + well, I never said steal but yes, I agree. She sees them way too close and has issues with that. She is unrealistic though lol. I mean cmon, you want them to be in the same band but not spend time practicing seeing as Haruki needs help. I wrote Haruko because I think I read that from your post or that's how I remember it lol. I never said she's stealing er man lol and ya, she probably fears being left out a lot. I was merely pointing out the reasons for why she was acting the way she was. I think Touma must've known that it's him playing the guitar. I mean, he said earlier that the pianist would play along with him when he played so I think that would be part of the reason why she likes him. She developed rapport with him indirectly. Maybe she saw that he cares about her. I don't think there's anything wrong with opening up to someone who you may like. That or maybe she slipped and told him her mom stuff. There's nothing really secret about telling that her mom left her and went to Paris on her own although she does mention other things as well. I AM CRAZY! YOU SATISFIED NOW????? ![]() Well, I see that scene as two things. Either Haruki confesses to her or he realizes that she's going to leave. Only reason I went back on confession is because I think doing it infront of Setsuna would be so heartbreaking for her and I'm not sure he would do that. Having said that, it might be a moment and it just happens that he confesses when he realizes he'll lose her. Both are possible scenarios imo. Yes, I think she wants to be with her mom as well. Well, you have a point. She was embarrassed and then he stole her away XD It did give her a reason to 'hide' behind him. She's NOT CRAZY! She's just had a hard time making friends, probably because she lost her previous friends. I'll have to watch that episode again to see what she tells him over the phone. Didn't watch Kimi Nozo yet lol. Good question, not sure on that but we're speculating that she linked the two. Thing is, to us, we noticed but to her, she probably didn't. We notice as the viewers since we see before and after ![]() ![]() STOP CALLING SETSUNA CRAZY! POOR THING HAD IT ROUGH! True point! ![]() ![]() Response to your long rant I didn't respond to specifically. Together with this and my other post I think you'll have plenty to read my friend ![]() + Show Spoiler + Haruki just took off with her and dragged her to the train. I think she was mostly embarrassed because she was in that outfit AND because she was with the guy she likes IN THAT OUTFIT IN PUBLIC, she was so nervous before about the outfit it made it even worse when she heard he was out in the hall O.o. Yeah she's crazy about Haruki :|. I think Setsuna is A) Spoiled B) a bit crazy C) she's acting like a bitch in heat with Haruki D) Jealous and yeah also E) Unrealistic. They are in a group WHICH she helped inmensely to kickstart by convincing Touma, as we know it seems like Haruki wasn't doing a good enough job. But then she gets mad when they spend time together, tell each other shit or just talk to each other in general lol, her demeanor says a lot about her more than what she actually says. If she keeps acting like this I won't blame Haruki for picking Touma ![]() You know before this episode and I still stand by it IIIIIIIISH, after what happened during toothbrush-gate I still think that it was mostly because she saw them as a group of friends and she didn't want the same that happened with her old friends to happen again which is like 80-90% of the cause of her emoness and jealosy attack was the remaining 10-20%. But after this episode... I don't know man, I think she was really just jealous that Touma is "STEALING HER MAN!" and like 10% the friends crap ![]() Yes you're crazy, glad you admitted it, otherwise I don't see how else you could like Taiga ![]() ![]() What you said about the train and Touma leaving with her mom made a lot of sense to be honest. To be honest I never thought about him "doing it in front of Setsuna", think of it this way. Touma is leaving, Haruki runs to the train station to confess to her, he didn't think Setsuna would be there for X or Y reason, he confesses and then we see Setsuna arriving to the train station to say good bye as well, Touma sees Setsuna and rejects Haruki because she sees Setsuna there. It also might be that they both went to say good bye or try to convince her not to leave, Haruki has a burst of emotion, hugs her and maybe confesses OR NOT but still Setsuna looks at them like T_T. Both possible but we'll see how it goes down. Also I doubt Haruki cares about the other girl if she's confessing to one of them lol, specially if he's another Ryuji and doesn't really know. GO WATCH KIMI NOZO NAO, it's short you'll finish it in like 3 hours ![]() You know I just realized something :O I don't know if I'm right but I'll add it in my 2nd rant which I wrote earlier haha <.<. Yeah you're right maybe we saw that but she probably didn't, she might have but it's a stretch lol. I'm still curious about when he told Haruki that he gave Touma the song, I wished they had shown that. I think the way Haruki talks about Setsuna to Lizuka (I mention this later) kind of shows he may not want any rumors, though if he didn't want any he wouldn't call her by her first name or if he did he would like whisper it to her LOL like he did at first before that scene ![]() NOU SHE'S A CRAZY BITCH AAAAAAAH!. I don't think acting insecure and unstable because people wronged you in the past is a very good or stable thing to do lol. I get her friends sucked but that doesn't mean everyone else will do the same, specially Haruki after that phone conversation. I don't know my friend, if our friendship depends on whether or not I think Setsuna is hiding her true self then I doubt we can be friends for much longer ![]() ![]() To respond to your other post, well I didn't mean literally bi polar I mean she obviously isn't but I mentioned many times my issue with her specially in the post above ![]() Now this were some notes I took while I was rewatching the last episode earlier. + Show Spoiler + There was another clock in this episode lol and :O shockingly enough it was still 2007 ![]() Found it! at 9:56 lol it says 2007/11/22 Thursday 20:36(This came after the phone but I didn't notice because I was skipping around).Just so we're on the same page about the time ![]() I noticed something else as I was rewatching the episode earlier and well now while I was skipping all over it trying to find stuff. When setsuna reads the song they gave her she says "Love beyond reach", "pretending to be lonely", "I was head over heels for you" I think the pretending to be lonely could mean he's referring to Touma in the song and that he's head over heels for her? could be a song about Touma and then Haruki says that Touma didn't fix the song when she got it. She said there was nothing to fix and then gives him this very hmm interesting look. That's when Setsuna goes from o.o to O.O. Maybe Setsuna's response was due to that, that she read and saw it might be a song about Haruki's feelings for Touma. If that is the case, I don't think it's totally irrational for her to be jealous at that part <.< then you see her sort of biting her lips which I think shows she is keeping to herself what she really wanted to say, I think she's crazy jealous type, even though at first she didn't want to be left out of the group, I think now both the girls are starting to see the other as competition, so she hated the fact that Touma knew about the song before she did and obviously that the song might be about Touma... You know, when Lizuka was talking to Haruki when he came to school during the festival after coming from Touma's house I noticed a few things. As Lizuka was telling Haruki how Setsuna couldn't find her voice, that she was petrified on stage, they go up some stairs and Haruki says "Are you really talking about Sets--Ogiso here?" I wonder why the sudden change? why he didn't just call her Setsuna when he seems so comfortable calling her that when she's with her, maybe she's still insecure about how people might see his relationship with Setsuna? doesn't want people to think they are a couple? hmmmmmm that's something to think about. Lizuka then says "I already know you and Setsuna are on first-name basis", "You should have sealed HER mouth instead of your own" then Haruki very nervously says "I-i wasn't trying to hide anything" AND also he told him "What are we gonna do about tomorrow's performance?" "Any way to handle Setsuna-chan's emotions? What about Touma's health?" I think he sees that Setsuna is quite fragile and Haruki giving Touma all his attention regardless of her being sick, makes Setsuna "Unstable" as you said lol. Which is totally irrational btw lol. There was also a moment that came right after when Haruki enters the class room where Setsuna is, I can see why Setsuna might be apologizing for AGAIN acting like a jealous bitch and not sing at the rehearsal because HER MAN WAS WITH SOME OTHER WOMAN!! GRRR!!. She says "I'm sorry Haruki, I'm not sure if I'll be of any help to you guys" (guessing she means the band, I wonder if it's because she feels her jealous side is getting the best of her or in general?) but then Haruki grabs her so suddenly and says "I'm the one who should be sorry, so I'll apologize in advance" I really don't get why he did that OR says that, what did he mean by apologize in advance? in advance for what? didn't he just apologize? sounds odd to me... this I'm so nice it makes other people look like criminals attitude he shows to everyone makes things confusing lol. One thing we totally skipped over that is like WHAT!? How did we not talk about this was how I thought it was odd how Touma sort of asked Haruki if he was going to go out with Setsuna just like that, sure he didn't hear it (That was like those AmiXRyuji moments ![]() After the 5th episode when she went full emo and was like oh well guys I thought here we were all friends but it seems to me it's just you (Touma) and Haruki, while you guys are leaving me behind. I think Setsuna's demeanor speaks volumes about what she's really thinking, I think she's crazy jealous that those 2 spend any amount of time together (Which is why I think she couldn't sing at the rehearsal, she feels insecure and probably couldn't think about anything else other than what Haruki and Touma could be doing without her ALONE at TOUMA's house), not just the insecurity of being left out due to the whole thing with her friends but she's in love with Haruki and she feels Touma is stealing him with every thing they share that she's the last to know about and whenever she's not around them. I think being around Haruki makes her want to sing and yeah Touma's piano doesn't hurt but I'm almost sure she invited Touma into the band 90% because Haruki wanted her there for her piano. From the second she met Touma she was already measuring up the competition, remember when she saw her the first time and she was like "damn she's a bit taller and she has bigger boobs D:", then she invited Touma to the burger place to try to convince her to join so Haruki would be happy even though she felt threatened (Remember how she almost told her "Oh so you do like Haruki huh?!" when that train went by) I think she thought she could keep an eye on them and keep those 2 in check if she's around. But then when she isn't and then all this stuff happens every time they are left alone that she has to find out later (if at all) about makes her even more insecure. This part is a bit of a jumbled mess I wrote down yesterday and today, also some of this came off from some discussions I had with a friend about it. + Show Spoiler + He agrees that Setsuna isn't exactly normal and that her attitude is odd ![]() ![]() I shall respond to this in 3x the text ![]() ![]() + Show Spoiler [Clannad] + loved it. At the start, I disliked Nagisa since she seemed like the boring always unsure main character but I guess she grew on me as the series went by. The other characters like Kotomi, Kyou and such who also loved Tomoya made it that much better. Fuko's episodes do seem to pale in comparison to the rest but it was interesting when I was watching them. I think kotomi's was one of the most interesting. The mystery of the background of Nagisa's parents was also interesting. That one episode where they all came to give food to Tomoya and he was forced to eat it all lol was great to watch. I think most important was the episode when Tomoyo was playing tennis and then Nagisa got hurt by the ball. Tomoya pretty much reacts unconsciously to block the guy from taking her to the nurse station was pretty much the nail in the coffin for any other possible relationships. Gotta feel sorry for Kotomi, Kyou and Ryou though. They really had no chance at all. Oh well lol. @slaughter I think I managed to spoiler some more stuff for after story ><; lol. + Show Spoiler + was mostly looking for character names since Tomoyo and Tomoya was confusing and I guess I read a bit too much on some unknown name I saw. Apparently, it's their child >.> well, I guess that's fine if I didn't read that Nagisa supposedly dies or something, possibly during childbirth ><; I gotta learn to check other sites from now on and stop using wiki for quick info ![]() Yea its pretty easy to get spoilered.I actually think MAL is decent for looking at brief character bios because they tend to put possible spoiler info in spoiler tags. So you are done with Clannad? Have you begun After Story? ya, it's hard not to get spoilered. Makes watching the rest feel worthless if I know how it's gonna end. I'm hoping that what I read was like last episode stuff but man is it depressing to read that. How can the author be so horrible? lol :/ I finished Clannad and started After Story. I'm on episode 5 now, was flying through it lol but the spoiler has halted my progress >< edit: I'm thinking of reading the arpeggio manga starting today. I've been thinking about waiting till anime is over but that's gonna be for a while still and I would like to see the differences first hand. My friend started reading it and said that it feels like it's an alternative universe or something. + Show Spoiler + Also, something about another human submarine being present during the attack by Haruna and Kishirima. | ||
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November 12 2013 23:45 GMT
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On November 13 2013 08:04 BigFan wrote: Show nested quote + On November 13 2013 00:15 Toadesstern wrote: I have no idea how anyone is suprised at all, yes I'm quoting for the third time: [20:26:17] <Emnjay808> sanjee... [20:26:19] <Emnjay808> nii.. [20:26:21] <Emnjay808> ICHE... GOOO can someone explain this? :S Show nested quote + On November 13 2013 01:38 Slaughter wrote: On November 12 2013 17:22 BigFan wrote: On November 12 2013 13:18 TanKLoveR wrote: On November 11 2013 05:33 BigFan wrote: On November 11 2013 04:59 TanKLoveR wrote: On November 11 2013 04:29 BigFan wrote: On November 11 2013 04:19 TanKLoveR wrote: On November 10 2013 13:41 BigFan wrote: On November 10 2013 05:47 TanKLoveR wrote: I been liking Log Horizon since it started BUT this was the first episode that got me excited about what was going to happen next, really looking forward to the next episode. And is Shiro finally starting to live up to the hype ![]() + Show Spoiler [White Album 2] + Omg just finished watching the new episode, sooooo much stuff happened <.<. I feel like I have to write down my thoughts because they are too many D:. The people who wrote this show are dicks, maybe I'm over thinking but they put so many subtle details that leave me wondering wtf it meant, specially with Setsuna. I still have a feeling that girl is going to end up beheading Haruki and take his head for a ride in her parent's boat lol, there's something really odd about the way she acts. Unless I'm being misled in which case they are even bigger dicks. Those little reactions aside, wow you can tell this girl is head over heels for Haruki <.<, you could tell from episode 1 but this episode wow painfully obvious. As it was with Touma. More than once I thought Touma was going to jump on Haruki lol, not just how she reacted to Haruki taking care of her but telling him all that personal stuff, which she didn't have to. I definitely have to watch this again to count the times I was like "omg what? I have to rewind that..:O". They fucking teased me so hard with Setsuna's reaction to the song when they were telling her about it AND what Haruki said about what happens after the performance <.<, seems like shit is gonna go down :O!. CAN'T WAIT! HURRY UP NEXT SATURDAY!. I probably sound like a girl who likes dramas but whatever, I really like this show ![]() Also, silly BigFan, thinking LogH is from 2007. That show is so epic, one of my favorites. Looks surprisingly good (IMO) for a show that old. YES, YES he shall! He has been hyped so much, I'm hoping we don't get disappointed XD + Show Spoiler [White Album 2] + Watched it. Lots of stuff went down. Let's put it this way: Setsuna LOVES Haruki. Since the first episode, we've seen it. How she acts around him, him knowing her secret job and her spilling her friends background to him and such. We've known she likes him a lot so I think that also colors her perception a lot. Seeing the toothbrush at Touma's place, while it may have been partially about the whole friends left me and I have no friends thing, I think it was also partly due to her loving him. Love makes you do crazy things and she overreacts to it. Why does she like him? I honestly don't know. I can hazard a guess that it's due to the fact that he treats her like everyone else. He doesn't distinguish her from others and I think she mentioned that in the first episode at some point. Maybe she seems something in him from earlier. For all we know, maybe he looks like a previous close friend or bf but I'm overthinking it lol. Either way, we know she likes him a lot. She got Touma to join the band, likely in part for him but also because she wanted to sing White Album with the pianist and guitarist. Touma also likes him but she's not as open about it. I mean, we see Setsuna's reaction when he calls her by her first name and the way she acts. Heck, she was "hiding" behind his back or something in the train? I think he's also somewhat in love with Setsuna based on grabbing her hand and running out of the school. He could've easily just talked to her and apologized but he made it more personal and eye grabbing than it had to be. I saw Touma as acting her role. She's the type of person that acts one way when you talk to her but in the background, she likes him and appreciates it. Why te story? Sharing it with someone she's close to ![]() I'm not sure what Setsuna's reaction at the end was all about. It seemed kind of like her reaction when she saw the tootbrush and freaked out that they didn't tell her. I guess she was taken back at this new revelation. We finally do know that the dream was him writing lyrics but Touma was to add the music which she finished and Setsuna will sing it. I'm not sure how that's a dream though tbh. He does say it took him three years so I guess it's 2010-2011 for them(2007 he wrote it, 3 years later) but I always figured dreams are much bigger and take much longer to accomplish. Either way, my guess is that Setsuna was just taken back and figured it was something between them again that she wasn't a part of but she held herself and went with it. I think after the performance, they are going to split up. There are going to be accusations flying around that he's in league with Touma or prefers her or something. If not that, the band will break up due to the fact that the performance is done and that was the main point of forming the Light music band, wasn't it? It wasn't supposed to be an everlasting thing. Mostly a temporary music group although I doubt he would want it to end. After all, Touma did say back in an episode that she is only joining for Setsuna but that she can't stand her since they are not alike at all. edit: after watching first bit of first episode, I was wrong lol. I think they won't break up due to the accusations as I previously but mostly due to Touma having to leave, maybe a missed chance or something. Spoiler below for more details! Just rewatched the first bit of episode one, omg! Can't believe I missed this: + Show Spoiler + TOUMA IS LEAVING THEM! :O At first, I thought that Haruto will tell her that he loves her and Setsuna will be upset since she was in the back with her head down but they were at a train station or plane terminal or something since the scene after, Setsuna clings to Haruto and like in the train, she hides or I guess just hugs him and such. I think Touma will leave after the performance is done. It said that on the second day of the fair, one Saturday near the end of November so this next episode which is the fair is the last time we'll see them together for a while ![]() I think her mother might come back and 'force' her to come along. Why now? I have no clue but her mother is the provider for the house and such so like in Toradora(father there), she can't just say no(Toradora is a bit different here) since she'll have nowhere to stay and such. Maybe the mother saw that she was indeed talented and gave her the chance of a lifetime. To perform infront of a stage and if you remember the last episode, she would be competing and chasing her mother. In the end, Touma chooses the dream over them and of course, they are devastated. Breaking down, crying, Setsuna is speechless and all Haruki can do is give her a hug hoping that she'll change her mind. She doesn't, maybe partially because she sees that Setsuna likes him(and wants to follow her dream) and with that, the band is broken. Setsuna never sings again and Haruki can't even play the guitar well anymore. In other words, PREPARE YOURSELF BECAUSE I'M 99.99% CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS THE CASE! ![]() ![]() ![]() hehe, a much better discussion than yours. You're losing TankLoveR! ![]() Adding a lot of fluff just to create more paragraphs doesn't really make it a better discussion (bold'd), that's stuff we already knew. + Show Spoiler + I still think her issue is 90% with them being too close, not Touma stealing Haruki, also it's HARUKI not Haruto, gtfo that shounen crap lol. Sure she was a little jealous but I think her fear of being left out was way bigger at that point than omg nowai touma is stealing my man D:. Why Setsuna likes Haruki is as obvious as the fact that she likes him, now WHY Touma likes him, that's the real question here. She obviously liked him for a while since she seemed to know quite a bit about him and was paying attention to what he was up to, but why that is the mystery here IMO. I get that she shared that whole thing with him because she likes him, but she's usually so cryptic and tries really hard not to show any feelings towards anyone (guess: probably abandonment issues because of her mom). I thought she was going to stay that way for a while at least until she saw her mom and maybe fixed their relationship but yeah I can see where she's progressing. Dude how can you say it's 2011 when the clock says 2007? are you crazy? lol. He couldn't have been working on it since 2004? it says 2007 because that's the current year. Also a dream can be anything, maybe he wants to write songs and this is a step in that direction. 3 Years is a lot of time to be working in one of your dreams, specially if you're in high school sounds about right to be, if he joined the band because they were going to let him write the songs that sounds like a good idea for him if that's what he likes. Her reaction was for me half toothbrush-gate and half when they told her about the weekend thing, to be honest I don't know if it's exactly because she feels they are hmm hiding shit from her again like with the toothbrush, it felt different. I mean this case it wasn't even their "fault" they didn't really hide anything, Lizuka gave it to Touma and Haruki didn't know about it, if she thinks they are hiding shit from her again and gets mad over that then she's got issues imo. As I said, I think this girl is mentally unstable and or very two faced, I'm waiting for her to snap any second now. You obviously didn't get the school days reference hahaha but yeah, for ME she's crazy and Haruki should stay the fuck away. Now that other stuff is decent discussion lol. I never thought of it that way to be honest, I always pictured that was just Haruki chasing after Touma and confessing to her etc and she rejects him while Setsuna was around, didn't think she would leave after the mom comes back for the performance but that would make sense. It seems that the mom meant back when she didn't take Touma with her that she wasn't talented enough to bring her? but now she might be so she will ask her to come with her. That makes sense imo. It seems to me Touma wants to be with her mom even if she's mad that she was abandoned, kind of like Toradora yes. So I doubt she would have to be forced to go anywhere, but I'm definitely more curious bout this train scene now. I think Setsuna was super embarrassed by the whole thing that happened with Haruki, I mean you saw how insecure she was about wearing that dress in front of him, then he just grabs her and "steals her away", they jump in a train filled with people and she's dressed like that so she's even more embarrassed because there's tons of people looking and Haruki AND now she's holding him so less people see her BUT she's also holding him like that which I'm sure is something she wanted to do but it's also embarrassing because it's the first time. Setsuna is a mess as I said before, half of the time I don't know why she does the things she does, she's not as easy to read as Haruki and Touma because SHE'S CRAZY!. If Touma leaves and they are left alone I wonder if they are going to pull a Kimi Nozo or if she'll come back quickly to FIGHT FOR HER MAN GOD DAMN IT!. Hmm I'm really curious about if Lizuka is going to talk to Haruki about why the notebook, I mean hmm, I want to know why Lizuka thought giving it to Touma was the right thing to do as opposed to presenting it to the whole club (Setsuna). I wonder if Setsuna thought about that moment when Haruki shut Lizuka up as he was bringing that up while she was around, maybe she noticed that and she's like "hey if it's not a secret why did he do that?". That's a bit of a stretch but it's a possibility, I really want to know when Lizuka told him about giving Touma the song because I didn't see anything about that, did you?. Everyone at that school is going to think Setsuna and Haruki are dating now, I mean as if it wasn't enough they are calling each other by their first name, then Haruki comes and steals her away like that... I wonder if when Touma comes back to school she will hear rumors about that and maybe get jealous? kind of like Minori ![]() To be honest after watching the episode I was like omg what? there was a lot going on (mostly Setsuna being crazy Setsuna) and I honestly couldn't articulate it all well hahaha <.<. I'll watch it again later and maybe post again see if I notice anything else, there is always more details to this thing lol I even look at the background specially in Touma's house to see if there is some subtle clue towards something lol. And yeah I really do think it's 2007, I doubt very much that it's 2011 lol O.o, why would the clock lie!? WHY!!!? :O A clock has no reason to lie to us, it's not like the clock is Setsuna! ![]() I was doing a recap of what we know about her feelings and so >.> ps even with the 'fluff', it's still more insightful than your original post ![]() Only because you apparently just discovered there was an episode 1 lol, and Setsuna is boring when it comes to Haruki, she wants his dick we know why and since when. Now, everything else about her, bitches be crazy. :O so mean to Setsuna >.> lol. I went back to rewatch the first bit since I only watched it once. Background info is till important ^^ On November 11 2013 04:19 TanKLoveR wrote: On November 10 2013 13:41 BigFan wrote: On November 10 2013 05:47 TanKLoveR wrote: I been liking Log Horizon since it started BUT this was the first episode that got me excited about what was going to happen next, really looking forward to the next episode. And is Shiro finally starting to live up to the hype ![]() + Show Spoiler [White Album 2] + Omg just finished watching the new episode, sooooo much stuff happened <.<. I feel like I have to write down my thoughts because they are too many D:. The people who wrote this show are dicks, maybe I'm over thinking but they put so many subtle details that leave me wondering wtf it meant, specially with Setsuna. I still have a feeling that girl is going to end up beheading Haruki and take his head for a ride in her parent's boat lol, there's something really odd about the way she acts. Unless I'm being misled in which case they are even bigger dicks. Those little reactions aside, wow you can tell this girl is head over heels for Haruki <.<, you could tell from episode 1 but this episode wow painfully obvious. As it was with Touma. More than once I thought Touma was going to jump on Haruki lol, not just how she reacted to Haruki taking care of her but telling him all that personal stuff, which she didn't have to. I definitely have to watch this again to count the times I was like "omg what? I have to rewind that..:O". They fucking teased me so hard with Setsuna's reaction to the song when they were telling her about it AND what Haruki said about what happens after the performance <.<, seems like shit is gonna go down :O!. CAN'T WAIT! HURRY UP NEXT SATURDAY!. I probably sound like a girl who likes dramas but whatever, I really like this show ![]() Also, silly BigFan, thinking LogH is from 2007. That show is so epic, one of my favorites. Looks surprisingly good (IMO) for a show that old. YES, YES he shall! He has been hyped so much, I'm hoping we don't get disappointed XD + Show Spoiler [White Album 2] + Watched it. Lots of stuff went down. Let's put it this way: Setsuna LOVES Haruki. Since the first episode, we've seen it. How she acts around him, him knowing her secret job and her spilling her friends background to him and such. We've known she likes him a lot so I think that also colors her perception a lot. Seeing the toothbrush at Touma's place, while it may have been partially about the whole friends left me and I have no friends thing, I think it was also partly due to her loving him. Love makes you do crazy things and she overreacts to it. Why does she like him? I honestly don't know. I can hazard a guess that it's due to the fact that he treats her like everyone else. He doesn't distinguish her from others and I think she mentioned that in the first episode at some point. Maybe she seems something in him from earlier. For all we know, maybe he looks like a previous close friend or bf but I'm overthinking it lol. Either way, we know she likes him a lot. She got Touma to join the band, likely in part for him but also because she wanted to sing White Album with the pianist and guitarist. Touma also likes him but she's not as open about it. I mean, we see Setsuna's reaction when he calls her by her first name and the way she acts. Heck, she was "hiding" behind his back or something in the train? I think he's also somewhat in love with Setsuna based on grabbing her hand and running out of the school. He could've easily just talked to her and apologized but he made it more personal and eye grabbing than it had to be. I saw Touma as acting her role. She's the type of person that acts one way when you talk to her but in the background, she likes him and appreciates it. Why te story? Sharing it with someone she's close to ![]() I'm not sure what Setsuna's reaction at the end was all about. It seemed kind of like her reaction when she saw the tootbrush and freaked out that they didn't tell her. I guess she was taken back at this new revelation. We finally do know that the dream was him writing lyrics but Touma was to add the music which she finished and Setsuna will sing it. I'm not sure how that's a dream though tbh. He does say it took him three years so I guess it's 2010-2011 for them(2007 he wrote it, 3 years later) but I always figured dreams are much bigger and take much longer to accomplish. Either way, my guess is that Setsuna was just taken back and figured it was something between them again that she wasn't a part of but she held herself and went with it. I think after the performance, they are going to split up. There are going to be accusations flying around that he's in league with Touma or prefers her or something. If not that, the band will break up due to the fact that the performance is done and that was the main point of forming the Light music band, wasn't it? It wasn't supposed to be an everlasting thing. Mostly a temporary music group although I doubt he would want it to end. After all, Touma did say back in an episode that she is only joining for Setsuna but that she can't stand her since they are not alike at all. edit: after watching first bit of first episode, I was wrong lol. I think they won't break up due to the accusations as I previously but mostly due to Touma having to leave, maybe a missed chance or something. Spoiler below for more details! Just rewatched the first bit of episode one, omg! Can't believe I missed this: + Show Spoiler + TOUMA IS LEAVING THEM! :O At first, I thought that Haruto will tell her that he loves her and Setsuna will be upset since she was in the back with her head down but they were at a train station or plane terminal or something since the scene after, Setsuna clings to Haruto and like in the train, she hides or I guess just hugs him and such. I think Touma will leave after the performance is done. It said that on the second day of the fair, one Saturday near the end of November so this next episode which is the fair is the last time we'll see them together for a while ![]() I think her mother might come back and 'force' her to come along. Why now? I have no clue but her mother is the provider for the house and such so like in Toradora(father there), she can't just say no(Toradora is a bit different here) since she'll have nowhere to stay and such. Maybe the mother saw that she was indeed talented and gave her the chance of a lifetime. To perform infront of a stage and if you remember the last episode, she would be competing and chasing her mother. In the end, Touma chooses the dream over them and of course, they are devastated. Breaking down, crying, Setsuna is speechless and all Haruki can do is give her a hug hoping that she'll change her mind. She doesn't, maybe partially because she sees that Setsuna likes him(and wants to follow her dream) and with that, the band is broken. Setsuna never sings again and Haruki can't even play the guitar well anymore. In other words, PREPARE YOURSELF BECAUSE I'M 99.99% CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS THE CASE! ![]() ![]() ![]() hehe, a much better discussion than yours. You're losing TankLoveR! ![]() Adding a lot of fluff just to create more paragraphs doesn't really make it a better discussion (bold'd), that's stuff we already knew. + Show Spoiler + I still think her issue is 90% with them being too close, not Touma stealing Haruki, also it's HARUKI not Haruto, gtfo that shounen crap lol. Sure she was a little jealous but I think her fear of being left out was way bigger at that point than omg nowai touma is stealing my man D:. Why Setsuna likes Haruki is as obvious as the fact that she likes him, now WHY Touma likes him, that's the real question here. She obviously liked him for a while since she seemed to know quite a bit about him and was paying attention to what he was up to, but why that is the mystery here IMO. I get that she shared that whole thing with him because she likes him, but she's usually so cryptic and tries really hard not to show any feelings towards anyone (guess: probably abandonment issues because of her mom). I thought she was going to stay that way for a while at least until she saw her mom and maybe fixed their relationship but yeah I can see where she's progressing. Dude how can you say it's 2011 when the clock says 2007? are you crazy? lol. He couldn't have been working on it since 2004? it says 2007 because that's the current year. Also a dream can be anything, maybe he wants to write songs and this is a step in that direction. 3 Years is a lot of time to be working in one of your dreams, specially if you're in high school sounds about right to be, if he joined the band because they were going to let him write the songs that sounds like a good idea for him if that's what he likes. Her reaction was for me half toothbrush-gate and half when they told her about the weekend thing, to be honest I don't know if it's exactly because she feels they are hmm hiding shit from her again like with the toothbrush, it felt different. I mean this case it wasn't even their "fault" they didn't really hide anything, Lizuka gave it to Touma and Haruki didn't know about it, if she thinks they are hiding shit from her again and gets mad over that then she's got issues imo. As I said, I think this girl is mentally unstable and or very two faced, I'm waiting for her to snap any second now. You obviously didn't get the school days reference hahaha but yeah, for ME she's crazy and Haruki should stay the fuck away. Now that other stuff is decent discussion lol. I never thought of it that way to be honest, I always pictured that was just Haruki chasing after Touma and confessing to her etc and she rejects him while Setsuna was around, didn't think she would leave after the mom comes back for the performance but that would make sense. It seems that the mom meant back when she didn't take Touma with her that she wasn't talented enough to bring her? but now she might be so she will ask her to come with her. That makes sense imo. It seems to me Touma wants to be with her mom even if she's mad that she was abandoned, kind of like Toradora yes. So I doubt she would have to be forced to go anywhere, but I'm definitely more curious bout this train scene now. I think Setsuna was super embarrassed by the whole thing that happened with Haruki, I mean you saw how insecure she was about wearing that dress in front of him, then he just grabs her and "steals her away", they jump in a train filled with people and she's dressed like that so she's even more embarrassed because there's tons of people looking and Haruki AND now she's holding him so less people see her BUT she's also holding him like that which I'm sure is something she wanted to do but it's also embarrassing because it's the first time. Setsuna is a mess as I said before, half of the time I don't know why she does the things she does, she's not as easy to read as Haruki and Touma because SHE'S CRAZY!. If Touma leaves and they are left alone I wonder if they are going to pull a Kimi Nozo or if she'll come back quickly to FIGHT FOR HER MAN GOD DAMN IT!. Hmm I'm really curious about if Lizuka is going to talk to Haruki about why the notebook, I mean hmm, I want to know why Lizuka thought giving it to Touma was the right thing to do as opposed to presenting it to the whole club (Setsuna). I wonder if Setsuna thought about that moment when Haruki shut Lizuka up as he was bringing that up while she was around, maybe she noticed that and she's like "hey if it's not a secret why did he do that?". That's a bit of a stretch but it's a possibility, I really want to know when Lizuka told him about giving Touma the song because I didn't see anything about that, did you?. Everyone at that school is going to think Setsuna and Haruki are dating now, I mean as if it wasn't enough they are calling each other by their first name, then Haruki comes and steals her away like that... I wonder if when Touma comes back to school she will hear rumors about that and maybe get jealous? kind of like Minori ![]() To be honest after watching the episode I was like omg what? there was a lot going on (mostly Setsuna being crazy Setsuna) and I honestly couldn't articulate it all well hahaha <.<. I'll watch it again later and maybe post again see if I notice anything else, there is always more details to this thing lol I even look at the background specially in Touma's house to see if there is some subtle clue towards something lol. And yeah I really do think it's 2007, I doubt very much that it's 2011 lol O.o, why would the clock lie!? WHY!!!? :O A clock has no reason to lie to us, it's not like the clock is Setsuna! ![]() + Show Spoiler + well, I never said steal but yes, I agree. She sees them way too close and has issues with that. She is unrealistic though lol. I mean cmon, you want them to be in the same band but not spend time practicing seeing as Haruki needs help. I wrote Haruko because I think I read that from your post or that's how I remember it lol. I never said she's stealing er man lol and ya, she probably fears being left out a lot. I was merely pointing out the reasons for why she was acting the way she was. I think Touma must've known that it's him playing the guitar. I mean, he said earlier that the pianist would play along with him when he played so I think that would be part of the reason why she likes him. She developed rapport with him indirectly. Maybe she saw that he cares about her. I don't think there's anything wrong with opening up to someone who you may like. That or maybe she slipped and told him her mom stuff. There's nothing really secret about telling that her mom left her and went to Paris on her own although she does mention other things as well. I AM CRAZY! YOU SATISFIED NOW????? ![]() Well, I see that scene as two things. Either Haruki confesses to her or he realizes that she's going to leave. Only reason I went back on confession is because I think doing it infront of Setsuna would be so heartbreaking for her and I'm not sure he would do that. Having said that, it might be a moment and it just happens that he confesses when he realizes he'll lose her. Both are possible scenarios imo. Yes, I think she wants to be with her mom as well. Well, you have a point. She was embarrassed and then he stole her away XD It did give her a reason to 'hide' behind him. She's NOT CRAZY! She's just had a hard time making friends, probably because she lost her previous friends. I'll have to watch that episode again to see what she tells him over the phone. Didn't watch Kimi Nozo yet lol. Good question, not sure on that but we're speculating that she linked the two. Thing is, to us, we noticed but to her, she probably didn't. We notice as the viewers since we see before and after ![]() ![]() STOP CALLING SETSUNA CRAZY! POOR THING HAD IT ROUGH! True point! ![]() ![]() Response to your long rant I didn't respond to specifically. Together with this and my other post I think you'll have plenty to read my friend ![]() + Show Spoiler + Haruki just took off with her and dragged her to the train. I think she was mostly embarrassed because she was in that outfit AND because she was with the guy she likes IN THAT OUTFIT IN PUBLIC, she was so nervous before about the outfit it made it even worse when she heard he was out in the hall O.o. Yeah she's crazy about Haruki :|. I think Setsuna is A) Spoiled B) a bit crazy C) she's acting like a bitch in heat with Haruki D) Jealous and yeah also E) Unrealistic. They are in a group WHICH she helped inmensely to kickstart by convincing Touma, as we know it seems like Haruki wasn't doing a good enough job. But then she gets mad when they spend time together, tell each other shit or just talk to each other in general lol, her demeanor says a lot about her more than what she actually says. If she keeps acting like this I won't blame Haruki for picking Touma ![]() You know before this episode and I still stand by it IIIIIIIISH, after what happened during toothbrush-gate I still think that it was mostly because she saw them as a group of friends and she didn't want the same that happened with her old friends to happen again which is like 80-90% of the cause of her emoness and jealosy attack was the remaining 10-20%. But after this episode... I don't know man, I think she was really just jealous that Touma is "STEALING HER MAN!" and like 10% the friends crap ![]() Yes you're crazy, glad you admitted it, otherwise I don't see how else you could like Taiga ![]() ![]() What you said about the train and Touma leaving with her mom made a lot of sense to be honest. To be honest I never thought about him "doing it in front of Setsuna", think of it this way. Touma is leaving, Haruki runs to the train station to confess to her, he didn't think Setsuna would be there for X or Y reason, he confesses and then we see Setsuna arriving to the train station to say good bye as well, Touma sees Setsuna and rejects Haruki because she sees Setsuna there. It also might be that they both went to say good bye or try to convince her not to leave, Haruki has a burst of emotion, hugs her and maybe confesses OR NOT but still Setsuna looks at them like T_T. Both possible but we'll see how it goes down. Also I doubt Haruki cares about the other girl if she's confessing to one of them lol, specially if he's another Ryuji and doesn't really know. GO WATCH KIMI NOZO NAO, it's short you'll finish it in like 3 hours ![]() You know I just realized something :O I don't know if I'm right but I'll add it in my 2nd rant which I wrote earlier haha <.<. Yeah you're right maybe we saw that but she probably didn't, she might have but it's a stretch lol. I'm still curious about when he told Haruki that he gave Touma the song, I wished they had shown that. I think the way Haruki talks about Setsuna to Lizuka (I mention this later) kind of shows he may not want any rumors, though if he didn't want any he wouldn't call her by her first name or if he did he would like whisper it to her LOL like he did at first before that scene ![]() NOU SHE'S A CRAZY BITCH AAAAAAAH!. I don't think acting insecure and unstable because people wronged you in the past is a very good or stable thing to do lol. I get her friends sucked but that doesn't mean everyone else will do the same, specially Haruki after that phone conversation. I don't know my friend, if our friendship depends on whether or not I think Setsuna is hiding her true self then I doubt we can be friends for much longer ![]() ![]() To respond to your other post, well I didn't mean literally bi polar I mean she obviously isn't but I mentioned many times my issue with her specially in the post above ![]() Now this were some notes I took while I was rewatching the last episode earlier. + Show Spoiler + There was another clock in this episode lol and :O shockingly enough it was still 2007 ![]() Found it! at 9:56 lol it says 2007/11/22 Thursday 20:36(This came after the phone but I didn't notice because I was skipping around).Just so we're on the same page about the time ![]() I noticed something else as I was rewatching the episode earlier and well now while I was skipping all over it trying to find stuff. When setsuna reads the song they gave her she says "Love beyond reach", "pretending to be lonely", "I was head over heels for you" I think the pretending to be lonely could mean he's referring to Touma in the song and that he's head over heels for her? could be a song about Touma and then Haruki says that Touma didn't fix the song when she got it. She said there was nothing to fix and then gives him this very hmm interesting look. That's when Setsuna goes from o.o to O.O. Maybe Setsuna's response was due to that, that she read and saw it might be a song about Haruki's feelings for Touma. If that is the case, I don't think it's totally irrational for her to be jealous at that part <.< then you see her sort of biting her lips which I think shows she is keeping to herself what she really wanted to say, I think she's crazy jealous type, even though at first she didn't want to be left out of the group, I think now both the girls are starting to see the other as competition, so she hated the fact that Touma knew about the song before she did and obviously that the song might be about Touma... You know, when Lizuka was talking to Haruki when he came to school during the festival after coming from Touma's house I noticed a few things. As Lizuka was telling Haruki how Setsuna couldn't find her voice, that she was petrified on stage, they go up some stairs and Haruki says "Are you really talking about Sets--Ogiso here?" I wonder why the sudden change? why he didn't just call her Setsuna when he seems so comfortable calling her that when she's with her, maybe she's still insecure about how people might see his relationship with Setsuna? doesn't want people to think they are a couple? hmmmmmm that's something to think about. Lizuka then says "I already know you and Setsuna are on first-name basis", "You should have sealed HER mouth instead of your own" then Haruki very nervously says "I-i wasn't trying to hide anything" AND also he told him "What are we gonna do about tomorrow's performance?" "Any way to handle Setsuna-chan's emotions? What about Touma's health?" I think he sees that Setsuna is quite fragile and Haruki giving Touma all his attention regardless of her being sick, makes Setsuna "Unstable" as you said lol. Which is totally irrational btw lol. There was also a moment that came right after when Haruki enters the class room where Setsuna is, I can see why Setsuna might be apologizing for AGAIN acting like a jealous bitch and not sing at the rehearsal because HER MAN WAS WITH SOME OTHER WOMAN!! GRRR!!. She says "I'm sorry Haruki, I'm not sure if I'll be of any help to you guys" (guessing she means the band, I wonder if it's because she feels her jealous side is getting the best of her or in general?) but then Haruki grabs her so suddenly and says "I'm the one who should be sorry, so I'll apologize in advance" I really don't get why he did that OR says that, what did he mean by apologize in advance? in advance for what? didn't he just apologize? sounds odd to me... this I'm so nice it makes other people look like criminals attitude he shows to everyone makes things confusing lol. One thing we totally skipped over that is like WHAT!? How did we not talk about this was how I thought it was odd how Touma sort of asked Haruki if he was going to go out with Setsuna just like that, sure he didn't hear it (That was like those AmiXRyuji moments ![]() After the 5th episode when she went full emo and was like oh well guys I thought here we were all friends but it seems to me it's just you (Touma) and Haruki, while you guys are leaving me behind. I think Setsuna's demeanor speaks volumes about what she's really thinking, I think she's crazy jealous that those 2 spend any amount of time together (Which is why I think she couldn't sing at the rehearsal, she feels insecure and probably couldn't think about anything else other than what Haruki and Touma could be doing without her ALONE at TOUMA's house), not just the insecurity of being left out due to the whole thing with her friends but she's in love with Haruki and she feels Touma is stealing him with every thing they share that she's the last to know about and whenever she's not around them. I think being around Haruki makes her want to sing and yeah Touma's piano doesn't hurt but I'm almost sure she invited Touma into the band 90% because Haruki wanted her there for her piano. From the second she met Touma she was already measuring up the competition, remember when she saw her the first time and she was like "damn she's a bit taller and she has bigger boobs D:", then she invited Touma to the burger place to try to convince her to join so Haruki would be happy even though she felt threatened (Remember how she almost told her "Oh so you do like Haruki huh?!" when that train went by) I think she thought she could keep an eye on them and keep those 2 in check if she's around. But then when she isn't and then all this stuff happens every time they are left alone that she has to find out later (if at all) about makes her even more insecure. This part is a bit of a jumbled mess I wrote down yesterday and today, also some of this came off from some discussions I had with a friend about it. + Show Spoiler + He agrees that Setsuna isn't exactly normal and that her attitude is odd ![]() ![]() I shall respond to this in 3x the text ![]() ![]() + Show Spoiler [Clannad] + loved it. At the start, I disliked Nagisa since she seemed like the boring always unsure main character but I guess she grew on me as the series went by. The other characters like Kotomi, Kyou and such who also loved Tomoya made it that much better. Fuko's episodes do seem to pale in comparison to the rest but it was interesting when I was watching them. I think kotomi's was one of the most interesting. The mystery of the background of Nagisa's parents was also interesting. That one episode where they all came to give food to Tomoya and he was forced to eat it all lol was great to watch. I think most important was the episode when Tomoyo was playing tennis and then Nagisa got hurt by the ball. Tomoya pretty much reacts unconsciously to block the guy from taking her to the nurse station was pretty much the nail in the coffin for any other possible relationships. Gotta feel sorry for Kotomi, Kyou and Ryou though. They really had no chance at all. Oh well lol. @slaughter I think I managed to spoiler some more stuff for after story ><; lol. + Show Spoiler + was mostly looking for character names since Tomoyo and Tomoya was confusing and I guess I read a bit too much on some unknown name I saw. Apparently, it's their child >.> well, I guess that's fine if I didn't read that Nagisa supposedly dies or something, possibly during childbirth ><; I gotta learn to check other sites from now on and stop using wiki for quick info ![]() Yea its pretty easy to get spoilered.I actually think MAL is decent for looking at brief character bios because they tend to put possible spoiler info in spoiler tags. So you are done with Clannad? Have you begun After Story? ya, it's hard not to get spoilered. Makes watching the rest feel worthless if I know how it's gonna end. I'm hoping that what I read was like last episode stuff but man is it depressing to read that. How can the author be so horrible? lol :/ I finished Clannad and started After Story. I'm on episode 5 now, was flying through it lol but the spoiler has halted my progress >< edit: I'm thinking of reading the arpeggio manga starting today. I've been thinking about waiting till anime is over but that's gonna be for a while still and I would like to see the differences first hand. My friend started reading it and said that it feels like it's an alternative universe or something. + Show Spoiler + Also, something about another human submarine being present during the attack by Haruna and Kishirima. Heh, yea I was actually spoiled and stumbled across basically the entire plot of After Story. Still was able to move me emotionally through the sorrow and joys in After Story. Btw the more I watch of F/SN the more it seems like they keep creating small retcons from what they eventually made in F/Z. Nothing huge but those smaller details add up and kinda annoy me. | ||
Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
November 12 2013 23:50 GMT
#65349
On November 13 2013 08:45 Slaughter wrote: Btw the more I watch of F/SN the more it seems like they keep creating small retcons from what they eventually made in F/Z. Nothing huge but those smaller details add up and kinda annoy me. What do you mean? | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
November 12 2013 23:53 GMT
#65350
On November 13 2013 08:45 Slaughter wrote: Show nested quote + On November 13 2013 08:04 BigFan wrote: On November 13 2013 00:15 Toadesstern wrote: I have no idea how anyone is suprised at all, yes I'm quoting for the third time: [20:26:17] [20:26:19] [20:26:21] can someone explain this? :S On November 13 2013 01:38 Slaughter wrote: On November 12 2013 17:22 BigFan wrote: On November 12 2013 13:18 TanKLoveR wrote: On November 11 2013 05:33 BigFan wrote: On November 11 2013 04:59 TanKLoveR wrote: On November 11 2013 04:29 BigFan wrote: On November 11 2013 04:19 TanKLoveR wrote: On November 10 2013 13:41 BigFan wrote: [quote] YES, YES he shall! He has been hyped so much, I'm hoping we don't get disappointed XD + Show Spoiler [White Album 2] + Watched it. Lots of stuff went down. Let's put it this way: Setsuna LOVES Haruki. Since the first episode, we've seen it. How she acts around him, him knowing her secret job and her spilling her friends background to him and such. We've known she likes him a lot so I think that also colors her perception a lot. Seeing the toothbrush at Touma's place, while it may have been partially about the whole friends left me and I have no friends thing, I think it was also partly due to her loving him. Love makes you do crazy things and she overreacts to it. Why does she like him? I honestly don't know. I can hazard a guess that it's due to the fact that he treats her like everyone else. He doesn't distinguish her from others and I think she mentioned that in the first episode at some point. Maybe she seems something in him from earlier. For all we know, maybe he looks like a previous close friend or bf but I'm overthinking it lol. Either way, we know she likes him a lot. She got Touma to join the band, likely in part for him but also because she wanted to sing White Album with the pianist and guitarist. Touma also likes him but she's not as open about it. I mean, we see Setsuna's reaction when he calls her by her first name and the way she acts. Heck, she was "hiding" behind his back or something in the train? I think he's also somewhat in love with Setsuna based on grabbing her hand and running out of the school. He could've easily just talked to her and apologized but he made it more personal and eye grabbing than it had to be. I saw Touma as acting her role. She's the type of person that acts one way when you talk to her but in the background, she likes him and appreciates it. Why te story? Sharing it with someone she's close to ![]() I'm not sure what Setsuna's reaction at the end was all about. It seemed kind of like her reaction when she saw the tootbrush and freaked out that they didn't tell her. I guess she was taken back at this new revelation. We finally do know that the dream was him writing lyrics but Touma was to add the music which she finished and Setsuna will sing it. I'm not sure how that's a dream though tbh. He does say it took him three years so I guess it's 2010-2011 for them(2007 he wrote it, 3 years later) but I always figured dreams are much bigger and take much longer to accomplish. Either way, my guess is that Setsuna was just taken back and figured it was something between them again that she wasn't a part of but she held herself and went with it. I think after the performance, they are going to split up. There are going to be accusations flying around that he's in league with Touma or prefers her or something. If not that, the band will break up due to the fact that the performance is done and that was the main point of forming the Light music band, wasn't it? It wasn't supposed to be an everlasting thing. Mostly a temporary music group although I doubt he would want it to end. After all, Touma did say back in an episode that she is only joining for Setsuna but that she can't stand her since they are not alike at all. edit: after watching first bit of first episode, I was wrong lol. I think they won't break up due to the accusations as I previously but mostly due to Touma having to leave, maybe a missed chance or something. Spoiler below for more details! Just rewatched the first bit of episode one, omg! Can't believe I missed this: + Show Spoiler + TOUMA IS LEAVING THEM! :O At first, I thought that Haruto will tell her that he loves her and Setsuna will be upset since she was in the back with her head down but they were at a train station or plane terminal or something since the scene after, Setsuna clings to Haruto and like in the train, she hides or I guess just hugs him and such. I think Touma will leave after the performance is done. It said that on the second day of the fair, one Saturday near the end of November so this next episode which is the fair is the last time we'll see them together for a while ![]() I think her mother might come back and 'force' her to come along. Why now? I have no clue but her mother is the provider for the house and such so like in Toradora(father there), she can't just say no(Toradora is a bit different here) since she'll have nowhere to stay and such. Maybe the mother saw that she was indeed talented and gave her the chance of a lifetime. To perform infront of a stage and if you remember the last episode, she would be competing and chasing her mother. In the end, Touma chooses the dream over them and of course, they are devastated. Breaking down, crying, Setsuna is speechless and all Haruki can do is give her a hug hoping that she'll change her mind. She doesn't, maybe partially because she sees that Setsuna likes him(and wants to follow her dream) and with that, the band is broken. Setsuna never sings again and Haruki can't even play the guitar well anymore. In other words, PREPARE YOURSELF BECAUSE I'M 99.99% CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS THE CASE! ![]() ![]() ![]() hehe, a much better discussion than yours. You're losing TankLoveR! ![]() Adding a lot of fluff just to create more paragraphs doesn't really make it a better discussion (bold'd), that's stuff we already knew. + Show Spoiler + I still think her issue is 90% with them being too close, not Touma stealing Haruki, also it's HARUKI not Haruto, gtfo that shounen crap lol. Sure she was a little jealous but I think her fear of being left out was way bigger at that point than omg nowai touma is stealing my man D:. Why Setsuna likes Haruki is as obvious as the fact that she likes him, now WHY Touma likes him, that's the real question here. She obviously liked him for a while since she seemed to know quite a bit about him and was paying attention to what he was up to, but why that is the mystery here IMO. I get that she shared that whole thing with him because she likes him, but she's usually so cryptic and tries really hard not to show any feelings towards anyone (guess: probably abandonment issues because of her mom). I thought she was going to stay that way for a while at least until she saw her mom and maybe fixed their relationship but yeah I can see where she's progressing. Dude how can you say it's 2011 when the clock says 2007? are you crazy? lol. He couldn't have been working on it since 2004? it says 2007 because that's the current year. Also a dream can be anything, maybe he wants to write songs and this is a step in that direction. 3 Years is a lot of time to be working in one of your dreams, specially if you're in high school sounds about right to be, if he joined the band because they were going to let him write the songs that sounds like a good idea for him if that's what he likes. Her reaction was for me half toothbrush-gate and half when they told her about the weekend thing, to be honest I don't know if it's exactly because she feels they are hmm hiding shit from her again like with the toothbrush, it felt different. I mean this case it wasn't even their "fault" they didn't really hide anything, Lizuka gave it to Touma and Haruki didn't know about it, if she thinks they are hiding shit from her again and gets mad over that then she's got issues imo. As I said, I think this girl is mentally unstable and or very two faced, I'm waiting for her to snap any second now. You obviously didn't get the school days reference hahaha but yeah, for ME she's crazy and Haruki should stay the fuck away. Now that other stuff is decent discussion lol. I never thought of it that way to be honest, I always pictured that was just Haruki chasing after Touma and confessing to her etc and she rejects him while Setsuna was around, didn't think she would leave after the mom comes back for the performance but that would make sense. It seems that the mom meant back when she didn't take Touma with her that she wasn't talented enough to bring her? but now she might be so she will ask her to come with her. That makes sense imo. It seems to me Touma wants to be with her mom even if she's mad that she was abandoned, kind of like Toradora yes. So I doubt she would have to be forced to go anywhere, but I'm definitely more curious bout this train scene now. I think Setsuna was super embarrassed by the whole thing that happened with Haruki, I mean you saw how insecure she was about wearing that dress in front of him, then he just grabs her and "steals her away", they jump in a train filled with people and she's dressed like that so she's even more embarrassed because there's tons of people looking and Haruki AND now she's holding him so less people see her BUT she's also holding him like that which I'm sure is something she wanted to do but it's also embarrassing because it's the first time. Setsuna is a mess as I said before, half of the time I don't know why she does the things she does, she's not as easy to read as Haruki and Touma because SHE'S CRAZY!. If Touma leaves and they are left alone I wonder if they are going to pull a Kimi Nozo or if she'll come back quickly to FIGHT FOR HER MAN GOD DAMN IT!. Hmm I'm really curious about if Lizuka is going to talk to Haruki about why the notebook, I mean hmm, I want to know why Lizuka thought giving it to Touma was the right thing to do as opposed to presenting it to the whole club (Setsuna). I wonder if Setsuna thought about that moment when Haruki shut Lizuka up as he was bringing that up while she was around, maybe she noticed that and she's like "hey if it's not a secret why did he do that?". That's a bit of a stretch but it's a possibility, I really want to know when Lizuka told him about giving Touma the song because I didn't see anything about that, did you?. Everyone at that school is going to think Setsuna and Haruki are dating now, I mean as if it wasn't enough they are calling each other by their first name, then Haruki comes and steals her away like that... I wonder if when Touma comes back to school she will hear rumors about that and maybe get jealous? kind of like Minori ![]() To be honest after watching the episode I was like omg what? there was a lot going on (mostly Setsuna being crazy Setsuna) and I honestly couldn't articulate it all well hahaha <.<. I'll watch it again later and maybe post again see if I notice anything else, there is always more details to this thing lol I even look at the background specially in Touma's house to see if there is some subtle clue towards something lol. And yeah I really do think it's 2007, I doubt very much that it's 2011 lol O.o, why would the clock lie!? WHY!!!? :O A clock has no reason to lie to us, it's not like the clock is Setsuna! ![]() I was doing a recap of what we know about her feelings and so >.> ps even with the 'fluff', it's still more insightful than your original post ![]() Only because you apparently just discovered there was an episode 1 lol, and Setsuna is boring when it comes to Haruki, she wants his dick we know why and since when. Now, everything else about her, bitches be crazy. :O so mean to Setsuna >.> lol. I went back to rewatch the first bit since I only watched it once. Background info is till important ^^ On November 11 2013 04:19 TanKLoveR wrote: On November 10 2013 13:41 BigFan wrote: On November 10 2013 05:47 TanKLoveR wrote: I been liking Log Horizon since it started BUT this was the first episode that got me excited about what was going to happen next, really looking forward to the next episode. And is Shiro finally starting to live up to the hype ![]() + Show Spoiler [White Album 2] + Omg just finished watching the new episode, sooooo much stuff happened <.<. I feel like I have to write down my thoughts because they are too many D:. The people who wrote this show are dicks, maybe I'm over thinking but they put so many subtle details that leave me wondering wtf it meant, specially with Setsuna. I still have a feeling that girl is going to end up beheading Haruki and take his head for a ride in her parent's boat lol, there's something really odd about the way she acts. Unless I'm being misled in which case they are even bigger dicks. Those little reactions aside, wow you can tell this girl is head over heels for Haruki <.<, you could tell from episode 1 but this episode wow painfully obvious. As it was with Touma. More than once I thought Touma was going to jump on Haruki lol, not just how she reacted to Haruki taking care of her but telling him all that personal stuff, which she didn't have to. I definitely have to watch this again to count the times I was like "omg what? I have to rewind that..:O". They fucking teased me so hard with Setsuna's reaction to the song when they were telling her about it AND what Haruki said about what happens after the performance <.<, seems like shit is gonna go down :O!. CAN'T WAIT! HURRY UP NEXT SATURDAY!. I probably sound like a girl who likes dramas but whatever, I really like this show ![]() Also, silly BigFan, thinking LogH is from 2007. That show is so epic, one of my favorites. Looks surprisingly good (IMO) for a show that old. YES, YES he shall! He has been hyped so much, I'm hoping we don't get disappointed XD + Show Spoiler [White Album 2] + Watched it. Lots of stuff went down. Let's put it this way: Setsuna LOVES Haruki. Since the first episode, we've seen it. How she acts around him, him knowing her secret job and her spilling her friends background to him and such. We've known she likes him a lot so I think that also colors her perception a lot. Seeing the toothbrush at Touma's place, while it may have been partially about the whole friends left me and I have no friends thing, I think it was also partly due to her loving him. Love makes you do crazy things and she overreacts to it. Why does she like him? I honestly don't know. I can hazard a guess that it's due to the fact that he treats her like everyone else. He doesn't distinguish her from others and I think she mentioned that in the first episode at some point. Maybe she seems something in him from earlier. For all we know, maybe he looks like a previous close friend or bf but I'm overthinking it lol. Either way, we know she likes him a lot. She got Touma to join the band, likely in part for him but also because she wanted to sing White Album with the pianist and guitarist. Touma also likes him but she's not as open about it. I mean, we see Setsuna's reaction when he calls her by her first name and the way she acts. Heck, she was "hiding" behind his back or something in the train? I think he's also somewhat in love with Setsuna based on grabbing her hand and running out of the school. He could've easily just talked to her and apologized but he made it more personal and eye grabbing than it had to be. I saw Touma as acting her role. She's the type of person that acts one way when you talk to her but in the background, she likes him and appreciates it. Why te story? Sharing it with someone she's close to ![]() I'm not sure what Setsuna's reaction at the end was all about. It seemed kind of like her reaction when she saw the tootbrush and freaked out that they didn't tell her. I guess she was taken back at this new revelation. We finally do know that the dream was him writing lyrics but Touma was to add the music which she finished and Setsuna will sing it. I'm not sure how that's a dream though tbh. He does say it took him three years so I guess it's 2010-2011 for them(2007 he wrote it, 3 years later) but I always figured dreams are much bigger and take much longer to accomplish. Either way, my guess is that Setsuna was just taken back and figured it was something between them again that she wasn't a part of but she held herself and went with it. I think after the performance, they are going to split up. There are going to be accusations flying around that he's in league with Touma or prefers her or something. If not that, the band will break up due to the fact that the performance is done and that was the main point of forming the Light music band, wasn't it? It wasn't supposed to be an everlasting thing. Mostly a temporary music group although I doubt he would want it to end. After all, Touma did say back in an episode that she is only joining for Setsuna but that she can't stand her since they are not alike at all. edit: after watching first bit of first episode, I was wrong lol. I think they won't break up due to the accusations as I previously but mostly due to Touma having to leave, maybe a missed chance or something. Spoiler below for more details! Just rewatched the first bit of episode one, omg! Can't believe I missed this: + Show Spoiler + TOUMA IS LEAVING THEM! :O At first, I thought that Haruto will tell her that he loves her and Setsuna will be upset since she was in the back with her head down but they were at a train station or plane terminal or something since the scene after, Setsuna clings to Haruto and like in the train, she hides or I guess just hugs him and such. I think Touma will leave after the performance is done. It said that on the second day of the fair, one Saturday near the end of November so this next episode which is the fair is the last time we'll see them together for a while ![]() I think her mother might come back and 'force' her to come along. Why now? I have no clue but her mother is the provider for the house and such so like in Toradora(father there), she can't just say no(Toradora is a bit different here) since she'll have nowhere to stay and such. Maybe the mother saw that she was indeed talented and gave her the chance of a lifetime. To perform infront of a stage and if you remember the last episode, she would be competing and chasing her mother. In the end, Touma chooses the dream over them and of course, they are devastated. Breaking down, crying, Setsuna is speechless and all Haruki can do is give her a hug hoping that she'll change her mind. She doesn't, maybe partially because she sees that Setsuna likes him(and wants to follow her dream) and with that, the band is broken. Setsuna never sings again and Haruki can't even play the guitar well anymore. In other words, PREPARE YOURSELF BECAUSE I'M 99.99% CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS THE CASE! ![]() ![]() ![]() hehe, a much better discussion than yours. You're losing TankLoveR! ![]() Adding a lot of fluff just to create more paragraphs doesn't really make it a better discussion (bold'd), that's stuff we already knew. + Show Spoiler + I still think her issue is 90% with them being too close, not Touma stealing Haruki, also it's HARUKI not Haruto, gtfo that shounen crap lol. Sure she was a little jealous but I think her fear of being left out was way bigger at that point than omg nowai touma is stealing my man D:. Why Setsuna likes Haruki is as obvious as the fact that she likes him, now WHY Touma likes him, that's the real question here. She obviously liked him for a while since she seemed to know quite a bit about him and was paying attention to what he was up to, but why that is the mystery here IMO. I get that she shared that whole thing with him because she likes him, but she's usually so cryptic and tries really hard not to show any feelings towards anyone (guess: probably abandonment issues because of her mom). I thought she was going to stay that way for a while at least until she saw her mom and maybe fixed their relationship but yeah I can see where she's progressing. Dude how can you say it's 2011 when the clock says 2007? are you crazy? lol. He couldn't have been working on it since 2004? it says 2007 because that's the current year. Also a dream can be anything, maybe he wants to write songs and this is a step in that direction. 3 Years is a lot of time to be working in one of your dreams, specially if you're in high school sounds about right to be, if he joined the band because they were going to let him write the songs that sounds like a good idea for him if that's what he likes. Her reaction was for me half toothbrush-gate and half when they told her about the weekend thing, to be honest I don't know if it's exactly because she feels they are hmm hiding shit from her again like with the toothbrush, it felt different. I mean this case it wasn't even their "fault" they didn't really hide anything, Lizuka gave it to Touma and Haruki didn't know about it, if she thinks they are hiding shit from her again and gets mad over that then she's got issues imo. As I said, I think this girl is mentally unstable and or very two faced, I'm waiting for her to snap any second now. You obviously didn't get the school days reference hahaha but yeah, for ME she's crazy and Haruki should stay the fuck away. Now that other stuff is decent discussion lol. I never thought of it that way to be honest, I always pictured that was just Haruki chasing after Touma and confessing to her etc and she rejects him while Setsuna was around, didn't think she would leave after the mom comes back for the performance but that would make sense. It seems that the mom meant back when she didn't take Touma with her that she wasn't talented enough to bring her? but now she might be so she will ask her to come with her. That makes sense imo. It seems to me Touma wants to be with her mom even if she's mad that she was abandoned, kind of like Toradora yes. So I doubt she would have to be forced to go anywhere, but I'm definitely more curious bout this train scene now. I think Setsuna was super embarrassed by the whole thing that happened with Haruki, I mean you saw how insecure she was about wearing that dress in front of him, then he just grabs her and "steals her away", they jump in a train filled with people and she's dressed like that so she's even more embarrassed because there's tons of people looking and Haruki AND now she's holding him so less people see her BUT she's also holding him like that which I'm sure is something she wanted to do but it's also embarrassing because it's the first time. Setsuna is a mess as I said before, half of the time I don't know why she does the things she does, she's not as easy to read as Haruki and Touma because SHE'S CRAZY!. If Touma leaves and they are left alone I wonder if they are going to pull a Kimi Nozo or if she'll come back quickly to FIGHT FOR HER MAN GOD DAMN IT!. Hmm I'm really curious about if Lizuka is going to talk to Haruki about why the notebook, I mean hmm, I want to know why Lizuka thought giving it to Touma was the right thing to do as opposed to presenting it to the whole club (Setsuna). I wonder if Setsuna thought about that moment when Haruki shut Lizuka up as he was bringing that up while she was around, maybe she noticed that and she's like "hey if it's not a secret why did he do that?". That's a bit of a stretch but it's a possibility, I really want to know when Lizuka told him about giving Touma the song because I didn't see anything about that, did you?. Everyone at that school is going to think Setsuna and Haruki are dating now, I mean as if it wasn't enough they are calling each other by their first name, then Haruki comes and steals her away like that... I wonder if when Touma comes back to school she will hear rumors about that and maybe get jealous? kind of like Minori ![]() To be honest after watching the episode I was like omg what? there was a lot going on (mostly Setsuna being crazy Setsuna) and I honestly couldn't articulate it all well hahaha <.<. I'll watch it again later and maybe post again see if I notice anything else, there is always more details to this thing lol I even look at the background specially in Touma's house to see if there is some subtle clue towards something lol. And yeah I really do think it's 2007, I doubt very much that it's 2011 lol O.o, why would the clock lie!? WHY!!!? :O A clock has no reason to lie to us, it's not like the clock is Setsuna! ![]() + Show Spoiler + well, I never said steal but yes, I agree. She sees them way too close and has issues with that. She is unrealistic though lol. I mean cmon, you want them to be in the same band but not spend time practicing seeing as Haruki needs help. I wrote Haruko because I think I read that from your post or that's how I remember it lol. I never said she's stealing er man lol and ya, she probably fears being left out a lot. I was merely pointing out the reasons for why she was acting the way she was. I think Touma must've known that it's him playing the guitar. I mean, he said earlier that the pianist would play along with him when he played so I think that would be part of the reason why she likes him. She developed rapport with him indirectly. Maybe she saw that he cares about her. I don't think there's anything wrong with opening up to someone who you may like. That or maybe she slipped and told him her mom stuff. There's nothing really secret about telling that her mom left her and went to Paris on her own although she does mention other things as well. I AM CRAZY! YOU SATISFIED NOW????? ![]() Well, I see that scene as two things. Either Haruki confesses to her or he realizes that she's going to leave. Only reason I went back on confession is because I think doing it infront of Setsuna would be so heartbreaking for her and I'm not sure he would do that. Having said that, it might be a moment and it just happens that he confesses when he realizes he'll lose her. Both are possible scenarios imo. Yes, I think she wants to be with her mom as well. Well, you have a point. She was embarrassed and then he stole her away XD It did give her a reason to 'hide' behind him. She's NOT CRAZY! She's just had a hard time making friends, probably because she lost her previous friends. I'll have to watch that episode again to see what she tells him over the phone. Didn't watch Kimi Nozo yet lol. Good question, not sure on that but we're speculating that she linked the two. Thing is, to us, we noticed but to her, she probably didn't. We notice as the viewers since we see before and after ![]() ![]() STOP CALLING SETSUNA CRAZY! POOR THING HAD IT ROUGH! True point! ![]() ![]() Response to your long rant I didn't respond to specifically. Together with this and my other post I think you'll have plenty to read my friend ![]() + Show Spoiler + Haruki just took off with her and dragged her to the train. I think she was mostly embarrassed because she was in that outfit AND because she was with the guy she likes IN THAT OUTFIT IN PUBLIC, she was so nervous before about the outfit it made it even worse when she heard he was out in the hall O.o. Yeah she's crazy about Haruki :|. I think Setsuna is A) Spoiled B) a bit crazy C) she's acting like a bitch in heat with Haruki D) Jealous and yeah also E) Unrealistic. They are in a group WHICH she helped inmensely to kickstart by convincing Touma, as we know it seems like Haruki wasn't doing a good enough job. But then she gets mad when they spend time together, tell each other shit or just talk to each other in general lol, her demeanor says a lot about her more than what she actually says. If she keeps acting like this I won't blame Haruki for picking Touma ![]() You know before this episode and I still stand by it IIIIIIIISH, after what happened during toothbrush-gate I still think that it was mostly because she saw them as a group of friends and she didn't want the same that happened with her old friends to happen again which is like 80-90% of the cause of her emoness and jealosy attack was the remaining 10-20%. But after this episode... I don't know man, I think she was really just jealous that Touma is "STEALING HER MAN!" and like 10% the friends crap ![]() Yes you're crazy, glad you admitted it, otherwise I don't see how else you could like Taiga ![]() ![]() What you said about the train and Touma leaving with her mom made a lot of sense to be honest. To be honest I never thought about him "doing it in front of Setsuna", think of it this way. Touma is leaving, Haruki runs to the train station to confess to her, he didn't think Setsuna would be there for X or Y reason, he confesses and then we see Setsuna arriving to the train station to say good bye as well, Touma sees Setsuna and rejects Haruki because she sees Setsuna there. It also might be that they both went to say good bye or try to convince her not to leave, Haruki has a burst of emotion, hugs her and maybe confesses OR NOT but still Setsuna looks at them like T_T. Both possible but we'll see how it goes down. Also I doubt Haruki cares about the other girl if she's confessing to one of them lol, specially if he's another Ryuji and doesn't really know. GO WATCH KIMI NOZO NAO, it's short you'll finish it in like 3 hours ![]() You know I just realized something :O I don't know if I'm right but I'll add it in my 2nd rant which I wrote earlier haha <.<. Yeah you're right maybe we saw that but she probably didn't, she might have but it's a stretch lol. I'm still curious about when he told Haruki that he gave Touma the song, I wished they had shown that. I think the way Haruki talks about Setsuna to Lizuka (I mention this later) kind of shows he may not want any rumors, though if he didn't want any he wouldn't call her by her first name or if he did he would like whisper it to her LOL like he did at first before that scene ![]() NOU SHE'S A CRAZY BITCH AAAAAAAH!. I don't think acting insecure and unstable because people wronged you in the past is a very good or stable thing to do lol. I get her friends sucked but that doesn't mean everyone else will do the same, specially Haruki after that phone conversation. I don't know my friend, if our friendship depends on whether or not I think Setsuna is hiding her true self then I doubt we can be friends for much longer ![]() ![]() To respond to your other post, well I didn't mean literally bi polar I mean she obviously isn't but I mentioned many times my issue with her specially in the post above ![]() Now this were some notes I took while I was rewatching the last episode earlier. + Show Spoiler + There was another clock in this episode lol and :O shockingly enough it was still 2007 ![]() Found it! at 9:56 lol it says 2007/11/22 Thursday 20:36(This came after the phone but I didn't notice because I was skipping around).Just so we're on the same page about the time ![]() I noticed something else as I was rewatching the episode earlier and well now while I was skipping all over it trying to find stuff. When setsuna reads the song they gave her she says "Love beyond reach", "pretending to be lonely", "I was head over heels for you" I think the pretending to be lonely could mean he's referring to Touma in the song and that he's head over heels for her? could be a song about Touma and then Haruki says that Touma didn't fix the song when she got it. She said there was nothing to fix and then gives him this very hmm interesting look. That's when Setsuna goes from o.o to O.O. Maybe Setsuna's response was due to that, that she read and saw it might be a song about Haruki's feelings for Touma. If that is the case, I don't think it's totally irrational for her to be jealous at that part <.< then you see her sort of biting her lips which I think shows she is keeping to herself what she really wanted to say, I think she's crazy jealous type, even though at first she didn't want to be left out of the group, I think now both the girls are starting to see the other as competition, so she hated the fact that Touma knew about the song before she did and obviously that the song might be about Touma... You know, when Lizuka was talking to Haruki when he came to school during the festival after coming from Touma's house I noticed a few things. As Lizuka was telling Haruki how Setsuna couldn't find her voice, that she was petrified on stage, they go up some stairs and Haruki says "Are you really talking about Sets--Ogiso here?" I wonder why the sudden change? why he didn't just call her Setsuna when he seems so comfortable calling her that when she's with her, maybe she's still insecure about how people might see his relationship with Setsuna? doesn't want people to think they are a couple? hmmmmmm that's something to think about. Lizuka then says "I already know you and Setsuna are on first-name basis", "You should have sealed HER mouth instead of your own" then Haruki very nervously says "I-i wasn't trying to hide anything" AND also he told him "What are we gonna do about tomorrow's performance?" "Any way to handle Setsuna-chan's emotions? What about Touma's health?" I think he sees that Setsuna is quite fragile and Haruki giving Touma all his attention regardless of her being sick, makes Setsuna "Unstable" as you said lol. Which is totally irrational btw lol. There was also a moment that came right after when Haruki enters the class room where Setsuna is, I can see why Setsuna might be apologizing for AGAIN acting like a jealous bitch and not sing at the rehearsal because HER MAN WAS WITH SOME OTHER WOMAN!! GRRR!!. She says "I'm sorry Haruki, I'm not sure if I'll be of any help to you guys" (guessing she means the band, I wonder if it's because she feels her jealous side is getting the best of her or in general?) but then Haruki grabs her so suddenly and says "I'm the one who should be sorry, so I'll apologize in advance" I really don't get why he did that OR says that, what did he mean by apologize in advance? in advance for what? didn't he just apologize? sounds odd to me... this I'm so nice it makes other people look like criminals attitude he shows to everyone makes things confusing lol. One thing we totally skipped over that is like WHAT!? How did we not talk about this was how I thought it was odd how Touma sort of asked Haruki if he was going to go out with Setsuna just like that, sure he didn't hear it (That was like those AmiXRyuji moments ![]() After the 5th episode when she went full emo and was like oh well guys I thought here we were all friends but it seems to me it's just you (Touma) and Haruki, while you guys are leaving me behind. I think Setsuna's demeanor speaks volumes about what she's really thinking, I think she's crazy jealous that those 2 spend any amount of time together (Which is why I think she couldn't sing at the rehearsal, she feels insecure and probably couldn't think about anything else other than what Haruki and Touma could be doing without her ALONE at TOUMA's house), not just the insecurity of being left out due to the whole thing with her friends but she's in love with Haruki and she feels Touma is stealing him with every thing they share that she's the last to know about and whenever she's not around them. I think being around Haruki makes her want to sing and yeah Touma's piano doesn't hurt but I'm almost sure she invited Touma into the band 90% because Haruki wanted her there for her piano. From the second she met Touma she was already measuring up the competition, remember when she saw her the first time and she was like "damn she's a bit taller and she has bigger boobs D:", then she invited Touma to the burger place to try to convince her to join so Haruki would be happy even though she felt threatened (Remember how she almost told her "Oh so you do like Haruki huh?!" when that train went by) I think she thought she could keep an eye on them and keep those 2 in check if she's around. But then when she isn't and then all this stuff happens every time they are left alone that she has to find out later (if at all) about makes her even more insecure. This part is a bit of a jumbled mess I wrote down yesterday and today, also some of this came off from some discussions I had with a friend about it. + Show Spoiler + He agrees that Setsuna isn't exactly normal and that her attitude is odd ![]() ![]() I shall respond to this in 3x the text ![]() ![]() + Show Spoiler [Clannad] + loved it. At the start, I disliked Nagisa since she seemed like the boring always unsure main character but I guess she grew on me as the series went by. The other characters like Kotomi, Kyou and such who also loved Tomoya made it that much better. Fuko's episodes do seem to pale in comparison to the rest but it was interesting when I was watching them. I think kotomi's was one of the most interesting. The mystery of the background of Nagisa's parents was also interesting. That one episode where they all came to give food to Tomoya and he was forced to eat it all lol was great to watch. I think most important was the episode when Tomoyo was playing tennis and then Nagisa got hurt by the ball. Tomoya pretty much reacts unconsciously to block the guy from taking her to the nurse station was pretty much the nail in the coffin for any other possible relationships. Gotta feel sorry for Kotomi, Kyou and Ryou though. They really had no chance at all. Oh well lol. @slaughter I think I managed to spoiler some more stuff for after story ><; lol. + Show Spoiler + was mostly looking for character names since Tomoyo and Tomoya was confusing and I guess I read a bit too much on some unknown name I saw. Apparently, it's their child >.> well, I guess that's fine if I didn't read that Nagisa supposedly dies or something, possibly during childbirth ><; I gotta learn to check other sites from now on and stop using wiki for quick info ![]() Yea its pretty easy to get spoilered.I actually think MAL is decent for looking at brief character bios because they tend to put possible spoiler info in spoiler tags. So you are done with Clannad? Have you begun After Story? ya, it's hard not to get spoilered. Makes watching the rest feel worthless if I know how it's gonna end. I'm hoping that what I read was like last episode stuff but man is it depressing to read that. How can the author be so horrible? lol :/ I finished Clannad and started After Story. I'm on episode 5 now, was flying through it lol but the spoiler has halted my progress >< edit: I'm thinking of reading the arpeggio manga starting today. I've been thinking about waiting till anime is over but that's gonna be for a while still and I would like to see the differences first hand. My friend started reading it and said that it feels like it's an alternative universe or something. + Show Spoiler + Also, something about another human submarine being present during the attack by Haruna and Kishirima. Heh, yea I was actually spoiled and stumbled across basically the entire plot of After Story. Still was able to move me emotionally through the sorrow and joys in After Story. Btw the more I watch of F/SN the more it seems like they keep creating small retcons from what they eventually made in F/Z. Nothing huge but those smaller details add up and kinda annoy me. what joys? I only stumbled onto sorrows lol | ||
Maxie
Sweden2653 Posts
November 12 2013 23:58 GMT
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
November 12 2013 23:59 GMT
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
November 13 2013 00:03 GMT
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On November 13 2013 08:59 Slaughter wrote: That just means you haven't been completely spoiled yet ![]() lol. Well I guess + Show Spoiler + having a child and get married is a joy. On the other hand, Nagisa dying and Okazaki becoming depressed is too much sorrow >.> | ||
Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
November 13 2013 00:14 GMT
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On November 13 2013 09:03 BigFan wrote: Show nested quote + On November 13 2013 08:59 Slaughter wrote: That just means you haven't been completely spoiled yet ![]() lol. Well I guess + Show Spoiler + having a child and get married is a joy. On the other hand, Nagisa dying and Okazaki becoming depressed is too much sorrow >.> I don't want to spoil anything but I will just say that + Show Spoiler + There is a fair amount of story after her death and its very important for the story. | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
November 13 2013 00:26 GMT
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On November 13 2013 09:14 Slaughter wrote: Show nested quote + On November 13 2013 09:03 BigFan wrote: On November 13 2013 08:59 Slaughter wrote: That just means you haven't been completely spoiled yet ![]() lol. Well I guess + Show Spoiler + having a child and get married is a joy. On the other hand, Nagisa dying and Okazaki becoming depressed is too much sorrow >.> I don't want to spoil anything but I will just say that + Show Spoiler + There is a fair amount of story after her death and its very important for the story. ok fair enough. I just hate ruining plots for myself lol | ||
Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
November 13 2013 00:28 GMT
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turnip
United States193 Posts
November 13 2013 04:06 GMT
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
November 13 2013 04:21 GMT
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On November 13 2013 08:50 Sentenal wrote: Show nested quote + On November 13 2013 08:45 Slaughter wrote: Btw the more I watch of F/SN the more it seems like they keep creating small retcons from what they eventually made in F/Z. Nothing huge but those smaller details add up and kinda annoy me. What do you mean? Just little details that they altered in F/Z from what was stated in F/SN. Nothing major just little things like when Saber was explaining how the war ended was slightly different then how they made it in F/Z. I guess its the nature of making prequels. | ||
Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
November 13 2013 04:51 GMT
#65359
On November 13 2013 13:06 turnip wrote: I'm going to experience School Days. So... VN or anime? Which do people recommend? As far as I know, school days VN is untranslated. So unless you know japanese, anime is your only choice. | ||
MichaelEU
Netherlands816 Posts
November 13 2013 06:27 GMT
#65360
On November 13 2013 13:51 Nemesis wrote: Show nested quote + On November 13 2013 13:06 turnip wrote: I'm going to experience School Days. So... VN or anime? Which do people recommend? As far as I know, school days VN is untranslated. So unless you know japanese, anime is your only choice. JAST sells it for 40 bucks. | ||
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