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Ushio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada868 Posts
July 17 2013 05:02 GMT
#59701
Oh god I love watching WataMote, its so funny yet sad at the same time. Sugita definitely helped make it 10x funnier
http://myanimelist.net/profile/billng
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
July 17 2013 06:12 GMT
#59702
Lol ya, this ep had me in stitches. That ending... Oh god.... I seriously didnt see that coming. And I almost felt all warm-hearted for a minute there too. XD
Skol
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
July 17 2013 07:08 GMT
#59703
On July 17 2013 09:39 himurakenshin wrote:
Hey, this question probably has been asked before, so i apologize for that, but does anyone know any series similar to Welcome to the NHK? I suppose i'm looking for an anime series which is as realistic as possible, without the typical anime cliche stuff.

Watamote.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-17 11:51:43
July 17 2013 10:36 GMT
#59704
On July 17 2013 06:52 OutlaW- wrote:
In the 1st and 2nd seasons, two or three. Some arcs are shorter than others. There's also fairly frequent side stories.
The first season has 4 girls (not counting elucia) and so does the second season (counting Haqua because her story is basically an arc)
Since I'm already talking about this, my favorite animated arc so far is library girl (first season) and teacher girl (second season - this one especially stands out). Kanon's was good, too.
Just wanted to say that the story is linear and that there's even *gasp* character development

True thing. I loved that one as well, probably my overall favorite if you ignore Haqua for being Haqua, which obviously is out of everyone elses league.

About the character development... well kind of but not really. He does care for the girls and always has just not in that sense, so that's not a change in the first place. There have been other examples for that. + Show Spoiler [yet to come] +
the chihiro-one stands out as something where you clearly see him suffer under the conditions. Yeah he carries through but it's not like he's "lol who cares, here's my goal and nothing else matters". It does get to him.

Now that I think about it, the first chihiro encouter could be mentioned here as well, couldn't it? He completly hates her for being that unreasonable sidegirl and completly refuses to conquer her (btw ignoring the collar, argueing that one or two missed spirits apparently don't matter, as seen in haqua "arc", so I wouldn't bring that up at all). Until he starts to feel sorry for her.

TL;dr: He probably cares for them like someone cares for a loved animal. You get mad when they're hurt and want to help but you don't consider them your equal or a potential partner. If anything you could argue that they got upgraded from being treated like loved animals you care for to being treated alike friends from time to time.

On July 17 2013 09:01 killa_robot wrote:
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On July 17 2013 08:55 Nagisama wrote:
On July 17 2013 08:43 Dark_Chill wrote:
On July 17 2013 08:28 killa_robot wrote:
On July 17 2013 08:01 Nagisama wrote:
On July 17 2013 07:51 killa_robot wrote:
On July 17 2013 07:47 Nagisama wrote:
On July 17 2013 07:37 killa_robot wrote:
On July 17 2013 07:24 Ecael wrote:
On July 17 2013 07:22 ragz_gt wrote:
Well, at least we got Super M Shizuka Gozen

Too bad she just sounds exactly the same lol.
On July 17 2013 06:52 OutlaW- wrote:
In the 1st and 2nd seasons, two or three. Some arcs are shorter than others. There's also fairly frequent side stories.
The first season has 4 girls (not counting elucia) and so does the second season (counting Haqua because her story is basically an arc)
Since I'm already talking about this, my favorite animated arc so far is library girl (first season) and teacher girl (second season - this one especially stands out). Kanon's was good, too.
Just wanted to say that the story is linear and that there's even *gasp* character development

Character development? not really.


Pretty sure Keima actually caring about people other than himself in the real world counts as character development.

Unless it turns out in the end he had some ulterior motive to all this, but so far it seems like he's doing it simply because he wants to help them.

He also wants to not die because if he fails, he joins the decapitated club.


Where are you getting that from? To my knowledge that only applies to conquering the girls when they have the spirit things inside of them, which has nothing to do with this case.

The fact that he's still wearing the head decapitating collar.


Um. That's not a reason to support your assumption at all lol.

He's wearing the collar because he's still collecting the souls he was contracted to, so he won't be released until he collects them all. I asked why is he specifically helping these girls, when it has nothing to do with collecting souls. Him not helping them would not result in the neckbrace activating, as it was not a part of his contract with Elsie.

In other words, he's doing it because he wants to help them, not because he has to or die. The same guy who basically wanted nothing to do with the real world at the start of the series, is actively choosing to help others. AKA - Character Development.


Was Tenri's stuff introduced? If so, then it sort of shows that there hasn't been any character development. If he starts something, he tries to finish it. Whatever he takes as his responsibility, he'll take responsibility for it and see it through to the end. And now spoiler because I'm not sure how far the anime is
+ Show Spoiler +
Pretty sure Keima wants to help the goddesses because they could get rid of all the evil spirits. Not really because he likes them or wants to be involved with them.

Pretty much this.

If he continues collecting the runaway spirits, he has to capture something like 10,000 girls because that's how many spirits were released. + Show Spoiler [Goddess Arc] +
The goddesses are a shortcut introduced by the author to speed this up, because once the goddesses are revived, they will capture the 10,000 spirits for him, and end in the most anticlimatic possible way.


Unless this was introduced sometime in-between the second and third season (that we didn't see), he hasn't been doing it because of this, since he hasn't been made aware of it yet.

+ Show Spoiler +
Not that I'm shocked the author would make such a cop-out. 10,000 is an insane number to catch.


Pretty sure he was made aware of the number in s2 without being told that it could work again. That should have been the Haqua episode if I'm not mistaken, at least that's when he asks how many spirits get caught per month and realizes that the usual way isn't feasable.
+ Show Spoiler +
Tenri told him later on that they could do the same thing again if the 6 of them are combined again. Should have happened (as in: it did not) in ep02 this season if I'm not mistaken. She DID tell him that they sealed them but did not point out that they could do it again. It was a big thing in the manga though.
Again haven't looked it up but I think it happened before Kanon got stabbed and Keima agreed or at least thought about finding the sisters even before Kanon happened.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 17 2013 14:28 GMT
#59705
On July 17 2013 11:09 ragz_gt wrote:
Exactly, that's what we have SRW for.

Macross and Golion aren't out of place in SRW, but having a cross over between them as Robotech and Golion, and just those two, seems silly.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
July 17 2013 14:34 GMT
#59706
On July 17 2013 12:10 Zergneedsfood wrote:

Tatami Galaxy.

Edit: The two aren't that similar but I reckon if you like one that you'll probably like the other. It's just kind of hard to find a suitable rec for anyone who liked Welcome to the NHK because it's just kind of....different I guess. If you go here you'll see that the recs just aren't very good.


I thought they were super similar.

In fact when I finally watched Tatami Galaxy I was surprised that I've never heard of it mentioned when talking about NHK.
TranslatorBaa!
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-17 14:37:46
July 17 2013 14:37 GMT
#59707
On July 17 2013 23:34 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
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On July 17 2013 12:10 Zergneedsfood wrote:

Tatami Galaxy.

Edit: The two aren't that similar but I reckon if you like one that you'll probably like the other. It's just kind of hard to find a suitable rec for anyone who liked Welcome to the NHK because it's just kind of....different I guess. If you go here you'll see that the recs just aren't very good.


I thought they were super similar.

In fact when I finally watched Tatami Galaxy I was surprised that I've never heard of it mentioned when talking about NHK.


Really? Those two went like...hand in hand with every conversation I had about one or the other.

Edit: Then again, I didn't watch it until like....my 200th anime or something and I watched Welcome to the NHK as like....#20 or something so maybe you're right.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
July 17 2013 14:51 GMT
#59708
Just watched gunpla builders, best commercial I've ever seen. Looking forward to fall now.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
July 17 2013 15:44 GMT
#59709
On July 17 2013 23:34 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 12:10 Zergneedsfood wrote:

Tatami Galaxy.

Edit: The two aren't that similar but I reckon if you like one that you'll probably like the other. It's just kind of hard to find a suitable rec for anyone who liked Welcome to the NHK because it's just kind of....different I guess. If you go here you'll see that the recs just aren't very good.


I thought they were super similar.

In fact when I finally watched Tatami Galaxy I was surprised that I've never heard of it mentioned when talking about NHK.

Eh... I find them frequently linked to eachother. o.O
#freeshauni
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
July 17 2013 19:45 GMT
#59710
If you guys love Tatami Galaxy so much you have to watch Uchouten Kazoku then
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
July 17 2013 20:02 GMT
#59711
On July 18 2013 04:45 ragz_gt wrote:
If you guys love Tatami Galaxy so much you have to watch Uchouten Kazoku then


I am.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
July 17 2013 20:17 GMT
#59712
On July 17 2013 09:39 himurakenshin wrote:
Hey, this question probably has been asked before, so i apologize for that, but does anyone know any series similar to Welcome to the NHK? I suppose i'm looking for an anime series which is as realistic as possible, without the typical anime cliche stuff.


I wouldn't call it 'as realistic as possible,' and you're not gonna find an anime without any 'typical anime cliche stuff' (NHK included), but Chobits is kind of similar iirc.
Writer
Phemtos
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada163 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-17 22:23:22
July 17 2013 22:23 GMT
#59713
Just finished rewatching Texhnolyze, loved it but I still can't make much sense of that anime. Still a good watch and I strongly recommend it to any cyberpunk fan, just be warned that the first few episodes are quite slow.

Picture related http://i.imgur.com/FrNK7.png
Ushio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada868 Posts
July 18 2013 00:09 GMT
#59714
That texhnolyze picture is so accurate hahaha
http://myanimelist.net/profile/billng
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
July 18 2013 08:29 GMT
#59715
Rewatching FT from the very beginning again. I think this makes my 5th or 6th time. Still makes me feel all giddy and shit. Such bliss...
Skol
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
July 18 2013 12:12 GMT
#59716
On July 18 2013 09:09 Ushio wrote:
That texhnolyze picture is so accurate hahaha

I didn't cry at the end iirc, just felt empty inside.

Finished Saya no Uta yesterday (babby's first VN). It was an interesting experience to say the least.
+ Show Spoiler +
Seems like Gen could go all out on this one compared to most of his other stuff.
It's a beautiful love story and an insight into human psyche. No matter how fucked up it was, their emotions were just all too human.
As for the storytelling, I enjoyed the foreshadowing and different perspectives (though it was somewhat predictable at times I guess).
Song of Saya I & II from the OST are great and contributed a lot to the atmosphere.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
July 18 2013 14:02 GMT
#59717
On July 18 2013 21:12 maru~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 09:09 Ushio wrote:
That texhnolyze picture is so accurate hahaha

I didn't cry at the end iirc, just felt empty inside.

Finished Saya no Uta yesterday (babby's first VN). It was an interesting experience to say the least.
+ Show Spoiler +
Seems like Gen could go all out on this one compared to most of his other stuff.
It's a beautiful love story and an insight into human psyche. No matter how fucked up it was, their emotions were just all too human.
As for the storytelling, I enjoyed the foreshadowing and different perspectives (though it was somewhat predictable at times I guess).
Song of Saya I & II from the OST are great and contributed a lot to the atmosphere.


Time to move on to Kara no Shoujo, which is more powerful imo because how Saya no Uta seems unreal, in the sense that it is foreign.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 16:16:10
July 18 2013 15:05 GMT
#59718
On July 18 2013 23:02 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 21:12 maru~ wrote:
On July 18 2013 09:09 Ushio wrote:
That texhnolyze picture is so accurate hahaha

I didn't cry at the end iirc, just felt empty inside.

Finished Saya no Uta yesterday (babby's first VN). It was an interesting experience to say the least.
+ Show Spoiler +
Seems like Gen could go all out on this one compared to most of his other stuff.
It's a beautiful love story and an insight into human psyche. No matter how fucked up it was, their emotions were just all too human.
As for the storytelling, I enjoyed the foreshadowing and different perspectives (though it was somewhat predictable at times I guess).
Song of Saya I & II from the OST are great and contributed a lot to the atmosphere.


Time to move on to Kara no Shoujo, which is more powerful imo because how Saya no Uta seems unreal, in the sense that it is foreign.

+ Show Spoiler +
Are you referring to the crazy condition of the MC and Saya being a Lovecraftian monster? Just a matter of immersion I guess. I liked the contrast of unrealness/craziness and "real", human emotion. Unless you meant something else?

Kara no Shoujo is on my list, but I don't know when I'll get to read it. Don't have too much time nowadays. I thought about playing some shorter ones first (e.g. Planetarian).
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
July 18 2013 15:34 GMT
#59719
KnS so good~
#freeshauni
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
July 18 2013 15:35 GMT
#59720
On July 18 2013 21:12 maru~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 09:09 Ushio wrote:
That texhnolyze picture is so accurate hahaha

I didn't cry at the end iirc, just felt empty inside.

Finished Saya no Uta yesterday (babby's first VN). It was an interesting experience to say the least.
+ Show Spoiler +
Seems like Gen could go all out on this one compared to most of his other stuff.
It's a beautiful love story and an insight into human psyche. No matter how fucked up it was, their emotions were just all too human.
As for the storytelling, I enjoyed the foreshadowing and different perspectives (though it was somewhat predictable at times I guess).
Song of Saya I & II from the OST are great and contributed a lot to the atmosphere.


If you want more fucked up Gen you could read Kikokugai. It's linear and pretty short.
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