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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
June 14 2013 01:13 GMT
#58361
I certify that I have not watched valvrave since ep 2 and have no knowledge about any event that happened in the show... so PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE... if someone from TLADT did something dumb, I have nothing to do with it! I swear, great Prism!
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
aers *
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1210 Posts
June 14 2013 01:46 GMT
#58362
SEED and Valvrave have completely different timeslots, so Sunrise probably won't get in trouble.
Ushio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada868 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 04:48:02
June 14 2013 04:16 GMT
#58363
Saki still best girl. That rape though, damn! Shouko won the election but Saki won the erection. LOL!
http://myanimelist.net/profile/billng
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 05:07:35
June 14 2013 04:27 GMT
#58364
Nisekoi + Show Spoiler +
needs to stop stalling out with the imouto, feels like filler to me :'(


And Yahari is the shit, favorite show of the season easily.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
June 14 2013 05:53 GMT
#58365
I just finished Bakemonogatari and am halfway through Nisemonogatari and there seems to be a shit load of stuff that has happened already that is referenced. Is there a series or something that I was supposed to watch before this? Or is just how this series is and should just continue through it and the other seasons. Or should I go find the novels if I want to know more?
Never Knows Best.
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
June 14 2013 06:00 GMT
#58366
The debut episode of Gasaraki was pretty average. If the pilot themes and technical drawings continue to improve I'd recommend the show to more mecha fans.
Support your esport!
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 06:28:17
June 14 2013 06:05 GMT
#58367
On June 14 2013 13:16 Ushio wrote:
Saki still best girl. That rape though, damn! Shouko won the election but Saki won the erection. LOL!


I think it's a bit overblown because you can clearly tell it's the virus doing the dirty but I guess the producers got their shock value out of it.

edit: There are platforms for that kind of stuff and I honestly don't think anime is one of them. Say what you like about any exposure being good exposure but the timeslot/audience is very specific and if you think it popping up on more shows is going to impact what some japanese otaku thinks about rape I'm afraid you're mistaken. I'm fairly confident it's a grab for views towards the end of the season and not some edgy awareness campaign.

The show didn't start with shock value either-unless you think cheesy plot holes and school singalongs qualify. I'm not saying it isn't entertaining for those same reasons but I don't see the events of this episode as a progression of anything like what you were arguing.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 06:20:51
June 14 2013 06:10 GMT
#58368
I'm glad there's so much good taste in this thread. Saki is so good!

To the guy who said that Sunrise didn't manage to make a decent show and is resorting to rape as shock value, shock value was something the show was doing since episode one, and they have been since upping the ladder, trying to out-do themselves. I don't think that makes Valvrave a bad show, though.

Rape is indeed a very iffy subject, but I'm not ashamed of my opinion. Real rape is obviously bad and nobody isn't saying that it isn't, but it's a very difficult and mature subject to tackle, just the fact that it's being shown more often recently (even if it is for shock value) means that the medium is growing, and so I'm still happy that it's being shown. I think anime could do with a dose of reality (in terms of characters and struggles)

edit: I think it's very silly that an anime studio would get into trouble for showing sex. Like, I realize why it happens because I've spent enough time reading about Japanese culture (+ anime in general) and I know just how fucked up it is sometimes, but from a westerner's perspective it's still very silly. Anime isn't just for kids, unfortunately it happens to be that the business model for anime involves making otakus spend ridiculous amounts of money for BDs and figurines etc. which has made the shows not for kids geared at them, and not the mainstream (like movies and video games).
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
June 14 2013 07:42 GMT
#58369
What's Sunrise trying to outdo? Night shift nurse?
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 14 2013 07:56 GMT
#58370
On June 14 2013 15:10 OutlaW- wrote:
I'm glad there's so much good taste in this thread. Saki is so good!

To the guy who said that Sunrise didn't manage to make a decent show and is resorting to rape as shock value, shock value was something the show was doing since episode one, and they have been since upping the ladder, trying to out-do themselves. I don't think that makes Valvrave a bad show, though.

Rape is indeed a very iffy subject, but I'm not ashamed of my opinion. Real rape is obviously bad and nobody isn't saying that it isn't, but it's a very difficult and mature subject to tackle, just the fact that it's being shown more often recently (even if it is for shock value) means that the medium is growing, and so I'm still happy that it's being shown. I think anime could do with a dose of reality (in terms of characters and struggles)

edit: I think it's very silly that an anime studio would get into trouble for showing sex. Like, I realize why it happens because I've spent enough time reading about Japanese culture (+ anime in general) and I know just how fucked up it is sometimes, but from a westerner's perspective it's still very silly. Anime isn't just for kids, unfortunately it happens to be that the business model for anime involves making otakus spend ridiculous amounts of money for BDs and figurines etc. which has made the shows not for kids geared at them, and not the mainstream (like movies and video games).

I'm so happy that a comedy show like Valvrave makes a mockery of rape, its such a funny topic. GJ Anime, I'm proud of you. Now I get to feel like the toy commercials (featuring giant flying robots that shoot lasers at each other) that I like are mature and adult.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
June 14 2013 08:27 GMT
#58371
On June 14 2013 14:53 Slaughter wrote:
I just finished Bakemonogatari and am halfway through Nisemonogatari and there seems to be a shit load of stuff that has happened already that is referenced. Is there a series or something that I was supposed to watch before this? Or is just how this series is and should just continue through it and the other seasons. Or should I go find the novels if I want to know more?


Chronologically, both Nekomonogatari Black and Kizumonogatari happen before Nise. I say go read Kizu when done with Nise, then watch Neko Black, that's the same order the novels were released, I think.

Honestly, anyone planning to watch the new monogatari season should read Kizu.

About valvrape: I'm on Sent's side here. Personally though, the issue isn't rape itself, but how it is portrayed. And valvrave is just tossing it in there as this week's craziness.



Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1971 Posts
June 14 2013 09:04 GMT
#58372
On June 14 2013 08:30 Just_a_Moth wrote:
K, I'm watching all of Valvrave tonight so I can get in on this Valrave (rape?) talk.

I couldn't do it...
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
June 14 2013 13:05 GMT
#58373
Why, Sunrise?

I still love you but we're going to have to have a serious talk about what you did.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
June 14 2013 14:05 GMT
#58374
On June 14 2013 17:27 Maxie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 14:53 Slaughter wrote:
I just finished Bakemonogatari and am halfway through Nisemonogatari and there seems to be a shit load of stuff that has happened already that is referenced. Is there a series or something that I was supposed to watch before this? Or is just how this series is and should just continue through it and the other seasons. Or should I go find the novels if I want to know more?


Chronologically, both Nekomonogatari Black and Kizumonogatari happen before Nise. I say go read Kizu when done with Nise, then watch Neko Black, that's the same order the novels were released, I think.

Honestly, anyone planning to watch the new monogatari season should read Kizu.

About valvrape: I'm on Sent's side here. Personally though, the issue isn't rape itself, but how it is portrayed. And valvrave is just tossing it in there as this week's craziness.




Those two are both referenced to enough in bake that you don't really need to know either for Nise lol, since neko kuro was basically its own thing. Kizu is nice to have read ahead of time though.

Kizu movie 2015~
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
June 14 2013 14:15 GMT
#58375
On June 14 2013 23:05 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 17:27 Maxie wrote:
On June 14 2013 14:53 Slaughter wrote:
I just finished Bakemonogatari and am halfway through Nisemonogatari and there seems to be a shit load of stuff that has happened already that is referenced. Is there a series or something that I was supposed to watch before this? Or is just how this series is and should just continue through it and the other seasons. Or should I go find the novels if I want to know more?


Chronologically, both Nekomonogatari Black and Kizumonogatari happen before Nise. I say go read Kizu when done with Nise, then watch Neko Black, that's the same order the novels were released, I think.

Honestly, anyone planning to watch the new monogatari season should read Kizu.

About valvrape: I'm on Sent's side here. Personally though, the issue isn't rape itself, but how it is portrayed. And valvrave is just tossing it in there as this week's craziness.




Those two are both referenced to enough in bake that you don't really need to know either for Nise lol, since neko kuro was basically its own thing. Kizu is nice to have read ahead of time though.

Kizu movie 2015~


Kizu movie 2012.
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
June 14 2013 14:24 GMT
#58376
Valvrave talk, dont open spoiler if you dont want to be spoiled.

+ Show Spoiler +
So Haruto losing control means he needs attention to his erection. I always wondered what does him losing control truly mean. Does it mean the other 3 guys will lose control sooner or later too? Hmm. Well at least they achieved the shock value to this episode....besides I dont think Saki minded *that much*...she has a huge crush on Haruto in the first place
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 14 2013 14:27 GMT
#58377
On June 14 2013 23:24 Mithhaike wrote:
Valvrave talk, dont open spoiler if you dont want to be spoiled.

+ Show Spoiler +
So Haruto losing control means he needs attention to his erection. I always wondered what does him losing control truly mean. Does it mean the other 3 guys will lose control sooner or later too? Hmm. Well at least they achieved the shock value to this episode....besides I dont think Saki minded *that much*...she has a huge crush on Haruto in the first place

+ Show Spoiler +
The blond little girl appears to trigger these effects and thats exclusive to Valvrave 01.
WriterXiao8~~
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
June 14 2013 14:32 GMT
#58378
On June 14 2013 23:27 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 23:24 Mithhaike wrote:
Valvrave talk, dont open spoiler if you dont want to be spoiled.

+ Show Spoiler +
So Haruto losing control means he needs attention to his erection. I always wondered what does him losing control truly mean. Does it mean the other 3 guys will lose control sooner or later too? Hmm. Well at least they achieved the shock value to this episode....besides I dont think Saki minded *that much*...she has a huge crush on Haruto in the first place

+ Show Spoiler +
The blond little girl appears to trigger these effects and thats exclusive to Valvrave 01.

+ Show Spoiler +
I read speculation that she took control of Haruto because she either was interested in sex or wanted to make vampire babies or something similar. I bet you still remember how she asked "is this sex?" when Saki kissed Haruto in the cockpit
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
June 14 2013 15:19 GMT
#58379
On June 14 2013 23:15 Maxie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 23:05 Ecael wrote:
On June 14 2013 17:27 Maxie wrote:
On June 14 2013 14:53 Slaughter wrote:
I just finished Bakemonogatari and am halfway through Nisemonogatari and there seems to be a shit load of stuff that has happened already that is referenced. Is there a series or something that I was supposed to watch before this? Or is just how this series is and should just continue through it and the other seasons. Or should I go find the novels if I want to know more?


Chronologically, both Nekomonogatari Black and Kizumonogatari happen before Nise. I say go read Kizu when done with Nise, then watch Neko Black, that's the same order the novels were released, I think.

Honestly, anyone planning to watch the new monogatari season should read Kizu.

About valvrape: I'm on Sent's side here. Personally though, the issue isn't rape itself, but how it is portrayed. And valvrave is just tossing it in there as this week's craziness.




Those two are both referenced to enough in bake that you don't really need to know either for Nise lol, since neko kuro was basically its own thing. Kizu is nice to have read ahead of time though.

Kizu movie 2015~


Kizu movie 2012.

Kizu movie 20XX.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
June 14 2013 15:20 GMT
#58380
On June 15 2013 00:19 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 23:15 Maxie wrote:
On June 14 2013 23:05 Ecael wrote:
On June 14 2013 17:27 Maxie wrote:
On June 14 2013 14:53 Slaughter wrote:
I just finished Bakemonogatari and am halfway through Nisemonogatari and there seems to be a shit load of stuff that has happened already that is referenced. Is there a series or something that I was supposed to watch before this? Or is just how this series is and should just continue through it and the other seasons. Or should I go find the novels if I want to know more?


Chronologically, both Nekomonogatari Black and Kizumonogatari happen before Nise. I say go read Kizu when done with Nise, then watch Neko Black, that's the same order the novels were released, I think.

Honestly, anyone planning to watch the new monogatari season should read Kizu.

About valvrape: I'm on Sent's side here. Personally though, the issue isn't rape itself, but how it is portrayed. And valvrave is just tossing it in there as this week's craziness.




Those two are both referenced to enough in bake that you don't really need to know either for Nise lol, since neko kuro was basically its own thing. Kizu is nice to have read ahead of time though.

Kizu movie 2015~


Kizu movie 2012.

Kizu movie 20XX.


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