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InfusedTT.DaZe
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania693 Posts
April 09 2013 05:49 GMT
#55261
hey, do i need to watch fate stay night before watching fate zero? it says fate stay night is 10 years prior to fate zero or ... i don't really get it...
"Echoes of past events nudge the tiller on my present course, I await its reflection in the future"
Mysticesper
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1183 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 05:52:49
April 09 2013 05:52 GMT
#55262
You don't really need to.

Fate/Zero is a prequel (10 years prior to FSN) and doesn't require any story / plot that happened from FSN.

That and you may decide that cutting yourself is more enjoyable while you watch FSN. Fate/Zero is good though.
InfusedTT.DaZe
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania693 Posts
April 09 2013 05:53 GMT
#55263
okay thanks
"Echoes of past events nudge the tiller on my present course, I await its reflection in the future"
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
April 09 2013 05:55 GMT
#55264
The Fate/Stay Night visual novel is extremely good. The anime(s) not so much.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
April 09 2013 06:42 GMT
#55265
On April 09 2013 14:49 InfusedTT.DaZe wrote:
hey, do i need to watch fate stay night before watching fate zero? it says fate stay night is 10 years prior to fate zero or ... i don't really get it...

You don't need to watch FSN first, but you should read FSN. The anime for FSN is bad. The VN is very well regarded. Plus typical "production order is always the correct order", etc etc.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
InfusedTT.DaZe
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania693 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 09:16:04
April 09 2013 09:14 GMT
#55266
On April 09 2013 15:42 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 14:49 InfusedTT.DaZe wrote:
hey, do i need to watch fate stay night before watching fate zero? it says fate stay night is 10 years prior to fate zero or ... i don't really get it...

You don't need to watch FSN first, but you should read FSN. The anime for FSN is bad. The VN is very well regarded. Plus typical "production order is always the correct order", etc etc.

mhm i see, thanks... the entire series looks very promising, all the legends of heroes and stuff is quite appealing to me...

Let's hope the "production order is always the correct order" is not the same one meant by the creators of the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumya
Ah... i remember i watched the entire endless eight... what was i thinking...
"Echoes of past events nudge the tiller on my present course, I await its reflection in the future"
Denar
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1633 Posts
April 09 2013 09:33 GMT
#55267
On April 09 2013 18:14 InfusedTT.DaZe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 15:42 Sentenal wrote:
On April 09 2013 14:49 InfusedTT.DaZe wrote:
hey, do i need to watch fate stay night before watching fate zero? it says fate stay night is 10 years prior to fate zero or ... i don't really get it...

You don't need to watch FSN first, but you should read FSN. The anime for FSN is bad. The VN is very well regarded. Plus typical "production order is always the correct order", etc etc.

mhm i see, thanks... the entire series looks very promising, all the legends of heroes and stuff is quite appealing to me...

Let's hope the "production order is always the correct order" is not the same one meant by the creators of the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumya
Ah... i remember i watched the entire endless eight... what was i thinking...


You could say I took the wrong order for Fate, as I watched Fate/Zero before reading the Fate SN VN, and I can tell you that it didn't really affect my enjoyment of both, there is no problem understanding the Fate/Zero anime by itself.

It's a great anime by the way, and also one that I advise to many people who don't watch a lot of them.
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
April 09 2013 09:51 GMT
#55268
On April 09 2013 14:49 InfusedTT.DaZe wrote:
hey, do i need to watch fate stay night before watching fate zero? it says fate stay night is 10 years prior to fate zero or ... i don't really get it...

Don't watch FSN unless you want to hear some epic motivational speeches about how " People die if they are killed!"

Watch Fate Zero though
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
April 09 2013 10:01 GMT
#55269
On April 09 2013 18:51 Spaiku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 14:49 InfusedTT.DaZe wrote:
hey, do i need to watch fate stay night before watching fate zero? it says fate stay night is 10 years prior to fate zero or ... i don't really get it...

Don't watch FSN unless you want to hear some epic motivational speeches about how " People die if they are killed!"

Watch Fate Zero though


Shirou gets too much shit for that line.

Whatever you do, do not watch the anime. It's the VN or nothing, imo. And even then, I don't think F/SN is that great of a VN, but not getting all the three major routes makes it pointless, so there's no reason to watch the bad anime.

RDG, episode 1-4:

Earlier I've said that I thought it was rather boring, but as of episode 4 it actually caught my interest for real. I'll be watching the whole thing, I think. The main character still feels useless, though.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
April 09 2013 10:52 GMT
#55270
IMO true Fate fans come from playing the game, not sure where can you find one now but I enjoyed it so much. Such a classic.

Oh is it out, gonna go watch rdg 2-4 now!
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
April 09 2013 11:29 GMT
#55271
On April 09 2013 13:47 Ecael wrote:
I think the quest is asking for the ones in the mines and not those from the append 2.0 dungeons, pretty sure those aren't used for any quests.

There are lvl 50ish ones in the mines and those should be the ones you are going for, the ones on world map's append dungeons are like lvl 90 and meant to be done on like 3rd+ playthrough, probably 4th lol. What quest number is it?

If it was the append 2.0 ones though umm, that append was balanced around itself. You basically have to have enough supplies stockpiled from multiple playthroughs to zerg through the dungeons at least once to bring back recipe and materials. Infinitely zerging by having things die and reviving them on the same turn is probably the best way to go about it without having top end equipments from pre append2.


Quest 115, the quest is given in market so it's blocking other stuff... and once you accept it you only have 3 days. I killed everything else in mine and the only one left is the lv 90 one so that has to be it.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
April 09 2013 11:57 GMT
#55272
I saw Little Witch Academia... it was okay. Nice to look at, but it really didn't seem like anything special.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 13:27:45
April 09 2013 13:23 GMT
#55273
On April 09 2013 20:29 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 13:47 Ecael wrote:
I think the quest is asking for the ones in the mines and not those from the append 2.0 dungeons, pretty sure those aren't used for any quests.

There are lvl 50ish ones in the mines and those should be the ones you are going for, the ones on world map's append dungeons are like lvl 90 and meant to be done on like 3rd+ playthrough, probably 4th lol. What quest number is it?

If it was the append 2.0 ones though umm, that append was balanced around itself. You basically have to have enough supplies stockpiled from multiple playthroughs to zerg through the dungeons at least once to bring back recipe and materials. Infinitely zerging by having things die and reviving them on the same turn is probably the best way to go about it without having top end equipments from pre append2.


Quest 115, the quest is given in market so it's blocking other stuff... and once you accept it you only have 3 days. I killed everything else in mine and the only one left is the lv 90 one so that has to be it.

Oooh I remember now, those were the ones where they throw one append 2.0 monsters at you and tell you to somehow kill it.

Um...how high level is your Yuela, or do you have the ball demon that comes w/ double action. Take one of them, equip w/ your best lightning weapon, throw in 1 or both of the raise stats when low HP stuff, make sure they survive at least one hit from it. Zerg w/ revives. There might be other elements that deal bonus damage to that but lightning was the only one that came to mind.

Alternatively don't bother because like I said before, those things are meant to be done at like 3rd+ playthrough lol.
On April 09 2013 19:01 Maxie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 18:51 Spaiku wrote:
On April 09 2013 14:49 InfusedTT.DaZe wrote:
hey, do i need to watch fate stay night before watching fate zero? it says fate stay night is 10 years prior to fate zero or ... i don't really get it...

Don't watch FSN unless you want to hear some epic motivational speeches about how " People die if they are killed!"

Watch Fate Zero though


Shirou gets too much shit for that line.

Whatever you do, do not watch the anime. It's the VN or nothing, imo. And even then, I don't think F/SN is that great of a VN, but not getting all the three major routes makes it pointless, so there's no reason to watch the bad anime.

RDG, episode 1-4:

Earlier I've said that I thought it was rather boring, but as of episode 4 it actually caught my interest for real. I'll be watching the whole thing, I think. The main character still feels useless, though.

Kaze was telling me how he dropped it after watching preair episodes, then I checked with him to see if they did a bunch of things that were essential to the books. He was greatly confused then finally remembered some shit that they never bothered explaining.

In other words, PA Works doing work to a novel adaptation again. Sigh.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
April 09 2013 16:19 GMT
#55274
I stopped watching RDG after the 3rd minute.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
April 09 2013 16:38 GMT
#55275
On April 10 2013 01:19 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I stopped watching RDG after the 3rd minute.

I hope you burn more.
LinYu)Fury
Profile Joined September 2003
Norway200 Posts
April 09 2013 19:02 GMT
#55276
Has anyone seen Kingdom? feudal china etc.. I absolutely loooooved season 1, does anyone know when season 2 will air?
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
April 09 2013 19:10 GMT
#55277
On April 09 2013 18:33 Denar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 18:14 InfusedTT.DaZe wrote:
On April 09 2013 15:42 Sentenal wrote:
On April 09 2013 14:49 InfusedTT.DaZe wrote:
hey, do i need to watch fate stay night before watching fate zero? it says fate stay night is 10 years prior to fate zero or ... i don't really get it...

You don't need to watch FSN first, but you should read FSN. The anime for FSN is bad. The VN is very well regarded. Plus typical "production order is always the correct order", etc etc.

mhm i see, thanks... the entire series looks very promising, all the legends of heroes and stuff is quite appealing to me...

Let's hope the "production order is always the correct order" is not the same one meant by the creators of the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumya
Ah... i remember i watched the entire endless eight... what was i thinking...


You could say I took the wrong order for Fate, as I watched Fate/Zero before reading the Fate SN VN, and I can tell you that it didn't really affect my enjoyment of both, there is no problem understanding the Fate/Zero anime by itself.

It's a great anime by the way, and also one that I advise to many people who don't watch a lot of them.

F/Z spoils a lot of plot points and twists in FSN. On the other hand, FSN basically says the very end result of F/Z, but everything else leading up to it, and the circumstances, largely remain a mystery. I'd definitely say its best to go in Production Order.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 19:55:59
April 09 2013 19:55 GMT
#55278
I never watched FSN or read FSN. Maybe I'll get to it eventually but most of the things I was kind of confused by weren't big and a lot of references that I missed really didn't impact my enjoyment of the show.

But Sent's right. If I had the time to just plow through the FSN VN, I probably would've done that first. Though I guess in some cases, having zero knowledge of the FSN storyline did leave a lot of the suspense in the story open for a while.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1963 Posts
April 09 2013 20:00 GMT
#55279
Shingeki no Kyojin was sweet. Kinda reminded me of Shinsaki yori, because of how they're both futuristic but people use are archaice stuff, I think. And just the atmosphere in general, though Shingeki starts of way more intense.
rpgalon
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil1069 Posts
April 09 2013 20:12 GMT
#55280
On April 10 2013 04:02 LinYu)Fury wrote:
Has anyone seen Kingdom? feudal china etc.. I absolutely loooooved season 1, does anyone know when season 2 will air?


yeah, it was really amazing... and I was very happy to know about the 2nd season.

unfortunately, it takes time to get used to the animation, it does get better later on. It was probably the reason why some people didn't get past the first epi.
badog
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