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If you come in here looking for "anime recommendations" then please refer to this chart before posting: Anime Recommendations (as of may 2014). We also have an IRC channel called #tladt where we all hang out. The channel is on Rizon, not QuakeNet! Feel free to check it out. TLADT discord is Discord.gg

For currently airing anime, please see Anichart.net
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 23:03:45
March 10 2013 23:03 GMT
#54181
On March 11 2013 07:23 ragz_gt wrote:
Maoyuu... seriously? They have to do a recap ep when it's 12 ep long??

GuP had 2 even. They just fucked up their deadlines I assume.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
March 10 2013 23:29 GMT
#54182
On March 11 2013 08:03 maru~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 07:23 ragz_gt wrote:
Maoyuu... seriously? They have to do a recap ep when it's 12 ep long??

GuP had 2 even. They just fucked up their deadlines I assume.


Speak of GuP, what's the date for last ep?
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
March 10 2013 23:33 GMT
#54183
Episode 11: March 18th (Tokyo MX)
Episode 12: March 25th (Tokyo MX)
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8032 Posts
March 10 2013 23:36 GMT
#54184
So I played through Rance 1-3 recently.

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Rance 3
I played Rance 3 first because it was the latest of the three to be translated.

Graphics and such are ancient, as expected, but overall it's not bad.

[image loading]
Not bad at all


The gameplay is largely uninteresting. A lot of common rpg elements. What I really liked was that you had the option to avoid all combat by escaping (100% success rate except for fights you can't escape from, period). It sped up the game a ton. You can also summon a demon that basically oneshots everything except for bosses, which makes the game a cinch. Boss fights (especially later ones) are largely RNG based, since the game ends only when Rance dies. Since you can't control the actions of other members of your party, this means they could attack instead of healing Rance, essentially dooming you. In other cases, the boss could attack your healers, crippling your party. In short, shit sucks. In one fight, I had to hex edit my save to grant me infinite experience.

Quest progression was also unremarkable. Where this game really shines is in the writing. It's absolutely hilarious. The Rance universe is largely a parody of traditional RPGs, and it certainly shows. For example, in one section of the game, you need a code to unlock a door. Sill suggests that you look in bookshelves to see if the code is there. However, the way to progress is to actually go to a small, out of the way room, where Rance interrogates soldiers that Sill lures in. Brilliant.

All in all, the game was worth playing for the parodies and jokes alone.

Rance 1
It was awful. There are very few good things about the game, and it just hasn't aged well at all. Even the humor was lacking in most of the game. 90% of the game takes place in the starting town. The world map has 4 other areas, but 3 of those are completely irrelevant and you can't even do anything in them except fight monsters.

Quest progression was awful. There was a lot of the old RPG crap wherein you have to perform arbitrary action X to get event Y to happen. The real problem manifests when you have no fucking clue what X even is. Worst of all is the battle system. There are random encounters as you'd expect, but escaping from them is iffy at best, and some enemies can outright ohko you. This means you take a bunch of damage wandering around areas trying to figure shit out. Grinding is necessary to progress, as bosses can wreck your shit. It was tedious enough that I wrote a script to do all the clicking for me.

Rance 2
Rance 2 is the holy grail of the trio, mostly because it got a remake. The art is on par with modern Alicesoft stuff.

[image loading]
Long-haired Maria is delicious. Incidentally, she'll have long hair in Rance 9 too. :3


The jokes and parodies are also out in full force, much to my delight. Seriously, they're so good.
[image loading]
I hate that shit too.


Gameplay-wise, Rance 3 is similar to Rance 3 (Imagine that!). You can't control anyone other than Rance, but generally this isn't an issue since your casters tend to be smarter about healing this time around. Escaping is once again 100% reliable, which is awesome. Boss fights aren't exactly challenging or anything, but that's fine.

Finally, the game has the cutest game over screen ever.
[image loading]
D'aww


I really couldn't ask for more from this game.


Now waiting anxiously for 5D and 6.
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AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
March 11 2013 00:04 GMT
#54185
Am I allowed to ask noob questions around here?

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Do most people around here watch anime for free online, like manga? If so, is there anywhere in particular that one should go?

(noob question)
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
March 11 2013 00:27 GMT
#54186
A lot of people download their anime because it's often higher quality and you can come back to it whenever. You can use torrent tracker sites like tokyotosho, BakaBT, NyaaTorrents, etc. Those are public trackers, though there are also private trackers where you have to be a member and contribute by seeding etc.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1961 Posts
March 11 2013 00:44 GMT
#54187
On March 11 2013 09:04 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Am I allowed to ask noob questions around here?

+ Show Spoiler +
Do most people around here watch anime for free online, like manga? If so, is there anywhere in particular that one should go?

(noob question)

I've only been watching anime since September, but I just watch them online. I use gogoanime.com.
Resisty
Profile Joined December 2011
United States375 Posts
March 11 2013 00:52 GMT
#54188
I look them up on MAL, go to the fansub groups, and download them using IRC since I'm irrationally afraid of torrents. D:
Humans are greedy, therefore they are human.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
March 11 2013 00:58 GMT
#54189
On March 11 2013 09:04 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Am I allowed to ask noob questions around here?

+ Show Spoiler +
Do most people around here watch anime for free online, like manga? If so, is there anywhere in particular that one should go?

(noob question)


http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=torrents&cats=1_37
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 01:14:54
March 11 2013 01:14 GMT
#54190
By the way, are the torrents legal? I've heard the whole "You'll never get caught" thing again and again and again, and maybe I won't. But what if I am? I'm just not prepared to deal with the potential consequences of piracy, no matter how small the chances are of me getting caught.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 01:18:14
March 11 2013 01:17 GMT
#54191
I think most of them are not licensed shows, so it should be fine. I'm not 100% sure though.

e: uh just kidding
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 01:17:49
March 11 2013 01:17 GMT
#54192
On March 11 2013 10:14 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
By the way, are the torrents legal? I've heard the whole "You'll never get caught" thing again and again and again, and maybe I won't. But what if I am? I'm just not prepared to deal with the potential consequences of piracy, no matter how small the chances are of me getting caught.

The root answer is "no", despite what anyone will tell you. Even if a show is un-licenced.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
essencez
Profile Joined February 2012
342 Posts
March 11 2013 01:44 GMT
#54193
Torrents is just a P2P transmission medium. Currently, I would say torrents are de facto legal but with the upcoming Daisuki release, it is going to be the first fully legal torrent distribution platform.
essence.gg - "Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8032 Posts
March 11 2013 02:05 GMT
#54194
On March 11 2013 10:14 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
By the way, are the torrents legal? I've heard the whole "You'll never get caught" thing again and again and again, and maybe I won't. But what if I am? I'm just not prepared to deal with the potential consequences of piracy, no matter how small the chances are of me getting caught.

Of course it's illegal. You're getting a product without paying for it. For anime, it's not so much a matter of "you'll never get caught", and more "none of the companies with the license actually give a shit".
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
March 11 2013 02:16 GMT
#54195
Mm, let's rephrase this.

Torrenting anime/manga is illegal, as torrenting is just a means to an end. So your question is whether pirating it is legal or illegal.

Well, pirating itself is obviously illegal - it's theft, although a lot of defenders of pirating will try to protect it, citing shitty products and that sort of rubbish. You can find plenty of pirating discussion threads with a search. The tricky thing comes to Japanese anime (not so much manga, I'm afraid - manga falls into spazer's description of Japanese publishers not giving a shit outside of Japan because they lack the jurisdiction and funds to press) -- the general public can view and record anime via DVR and such for no cost, and so due to the lack of available stream outside, does anyone really have the means to say it's illegal? Even anime streamed online on NND have a country restriction. And bear in mind that most anime don't actually have an English license counterpart until quite a bit later... so for the most part there's actually a fine line between legal and illegal, until a company does license it outside.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
aers *
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1210 Posts
March 11 2013 02:26 GMT
#54196
It costs money to receive TV in Japan, FYI. Commercials exist too.

There is no legal ground to stand on when it comes to pirating anime.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
March 11 2013 02:29 GMT
#54197
Derp, figured it was part of standard TV service. Pretty sure Fuji is standard, so at least those ones (Sazae/Nintama/etc.) would fall under the potentially legal via the inaccessible argument :p
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
aers *
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 02:32:29
March 11 2013 02:31 GMT
#54198
There's a licensing fee to receive Fuji, bro.

edit:

I guess I should explain more. There's a general licensing fee (yearly, couple hundred USD) for terrestrial TV, and another for publicly available broadcast satellite TV.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 02:33:51
March 11 2013 02:32 GMT
#54199
Seriously? Wow, my uncle/aunt are really strict about TV and such so I figured they wouldn't pay a dime for that stuff, hahahah.

Edit:
At least in UK there's always freely-available channels (BBC IIRC go figure), and I think that's the case in the US too, so meh. Well, we can flip the argument to Japan -> torrenting English shows potentially legal because no one will go after you... although the US folks seem to be persistent and overflowing with cash, so that gets murky quick.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
March 11 2013 02:33 GMT
#54200
Just like TV in US, basic service still cost money (like 10 bucks a month or so).
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
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