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BurningSera

Ireland19621 Posts

February 20 2013 00:07 GMT

#53401

First half of SAO is fine, second half is pretty much up to personal taste (or your sis moe fan).

I am just sad that Accelerated World anime is shit. Novel is so damn good while SAO novel is so meh to me.

ragz_gt

9172 Posts

February 20 2013 00:11 GMT

#53402

AW anime is much better than SAO, not even close. And it's pretty much copy paste from novel so donno why you'd like one but not the other.

Though if they ever do The Disaster arc it would be great.

Maxie

Sweden2653 Posts

February 20 2013 00:17 GMT

#53403

On February 20 2013 09:11 ragz_gt wrote:
AW anime is much better than SAO, not even close. And it's pretty much copy paste from novel so donno why you'd like one but not the other.

Though if they ever do The Disaster arc it would be great.

I do kinda like AW actually. I guess flying mecha pig is more fun than MMO Jesus (or maybe I like that it is, despite everything, "just a game", even though they do take it bloody seriously :p).

Kaal

Djibouti2515 Posts

February 20 2013 00:17 GMT

#53404

Geass was a good watch. It's not a masterpiece by any means, but it's good. Solid 7-8, it just gets a lot of hate because R2 was such a god damn trainwreck.

Maxie

Sweden2653 Posts

February 20 2013 00:18 GMT

#53405

On February 20 2013 09:17 Kaal wrote:
Geass was a good watch. It's not a masterpiece by any means, but it's good. Solid 7-8, it just gets a lot of hate because R2 was such a god damn trainwreck.

I'd call R1 decent/good and R2 "an entertaining trainwreck".

Elem

Sweden4717 Posts

February 20 2013 00:32 GMT

#53406

On February 20 2013 08:44 Sentenal wrote:

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You think LoGH is above Mushishi because Mushishi is better than LoGH...? What a backwards way of thinking lol

MAL always rates inferior works to the greatest. That is how the world works.

Frolossus

United States4779 Posts

February 20 2013 00:48 GMT

#53407

On February 20 2013 09:17 Maxie wrote:

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I do kinda like AW actually. I guess flying mecha pig is more fun than MMO Jesus (or maybe I like that it is, despite everything, "just a game", even though they do take it bloody seriously :p).

idk man
i feel like the mc for accel world is the thing that really holds that series back. i know many people that explicitly stated that they refuse to watch accel world because of the mc

Southlight

United States11767 Posts

February 20 2013 00:49 GMT

#53408

On February 20 2013 09:32 Elem wrote:

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MAL always rates inferior works to the greatest. That is how the world works.

No you just have bad tastes.

Zergneedsfood

United States10671 Posts

February 20 2013 01:03 GMT

#53409

On February 20 2013 08:29 maru~ wrote:

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On February 20 2013 08:01 Zergneedsfood wrote:

On February 20 2013 07:58 maru~ wrote:

On February 20 2013 07:40 Zergneedsfood wrote:

On February 20 2013 07:38 maru~ wrote:

On February 20 2013 07:02 Zergneedsfood wrote:

On February 20 2013 06:54 maru~ wrote:

On February 20 2013 06:12 Zergneedsfood wrote:

On February 20 2013 05:51 solidbebe wrote:

On February 20 2013 05:02 Emnjay808 wrote:
I was curious to see what was rated top in MAL. And Gintama pops up numerous times. Maybe Ill give that an honest try.

Also I saw FMA: Brotherhood at no. 2. Cant say I dont agree with it, very good anime. One of the easiest 50+ episode shows that I marathoned. That and Cross Game.

Do give gintama an honest try because if you like it you get 250+ eps of great comedy ( a la nichibros).

On February 20 2013 05:30 thekaas wrote:
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Is that somehow a good thing?

I guess it just shows the general opinion of everyone on mal. There are a lot of shows with too high scores but when I look at the top 50 list I see a pretty good list of anime, maybe not the top anime, but a good list nonetheless. Honestly the top anime is different for everyone in the end.

For the most part, I agree. I think the top 50 gives you a general idea of what you might want to watch, what most people have thoroughly enjoyed, and at the very least it gives a well diversified set of anime series.

And as far as Code Geass is concerned, yeah, the writing is stupid and uninspiring (I'm referring to R1 btw since I have yet to see R2), and everything in the show is so serious that it almost verges on the comical, but the fact of the matter is that it's fun. For all its stupidity, Code Geass is fun to watch to see robots exploding, people pretending to be intelligent, and pretty nice animation from CLAMP.

There's nothing more to Code Geass beyond that, but I think having fun when watching an anime is one of the most important barometers anyway. It's the same reason why Steins;Gate or Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood are so high up on the list. It's because they're really fun and entertaining watches. Not everyone can sit through the likes of Texhnolyze or Serial Experiments Lain, contemplate the depth through which the anime approach the human condition and self-identity and say "HOLY SHIT THIS WAS THE BEST THING EVER."

Describing a series as "fun" is kind of pointless because entirely subjective, just as "boring".

I think it's still too objectively early to evaluate if Tamako Market will flop too.

Hm?

On February 20 2013 07:02 Zergneedsfood wrote:

On February 20 2013 06:54 maru~ wrote:

On February 20 2013 06:12 Zergneedsfood wrote:

On February 20 2013 05:51 solidbebe wrote:

Do give gintama an honest try because if you like it you get 250+ eps of great comedy ( a la nichibros).

On February 20 2013 05:30 thekaas wrote:
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Is that somehow a good thing?

Also, it's not pointless if the argument captures 90% of the reason why people like Code Geass. I mean, yes, you can like it because you think it's high quality well written anime but then you're pretty much kidding yourself, so for all intents and purposes people like it because it's super fun and exciting.

Saying a series is fun basically translates to "I thought it was fun to watch/I had fun watching it", but people have different ideas about what constitutes fun or what makes a show fun.

So what you're saying is...

If people have fun, but they have fun in different ways, we shouldn't consider them having fun?

No, and I have no idea how you arrived at that conclusion.

Your whole argument is that discussing that an anime is fun is pointless because there are so many ways to describe people are having fun.

But regardless, that just means they're having fun, which is a primary reason why Code Geass is so popular. So unless you say that people are not having fun watching it, I don't see how it's a pointless argument to make. The reason why CG, along with so many anime are popular is because they're fun to watch, for one reason or another. Not everyone can sit down and deeply contemplate rich and complex themes and appreciate those things and digest them as easily as something simple like CG.

Also, I'm well aware that deeply contemplating rich and complex themes and appreciating them can be considered "fun" to some people, but we're talking about shows like Code Geass so it's best not to mention those things because I'm sure they don't exist in that show anyway.

It goes without saying that people who enjoyed Code Geass thought it was fun. But I'm pretty sure there are also people who do not consider it fun.

Well...of course, but that wasn't the point. Whether or not people have different views on what "fun" entails is entirely irrelevant. I'm just saying the reason why mainstream anime are so popular is because they all have a lot of storytelling devices in common that make it fun for the audience (who can turn their brains off sometimes) to watch.

On February 20 2013 08:29 maru~ wrote:

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No, you see, it's FUN.

Again, I really don't know what you're trying to go for here. I already said that there are people who hate on the show for being really stupid, but since when was I talking about those people?

BlackMagister

United States5834 Posts

February 20 2013 01:24 GMT

#53410

On February 20 2013 09:48 Frolossus wrote:

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idk man
i feel like the mc for accel world is the thing that really holds that series back. i know many people that explicitly stated that they refuse to watch accel world because of the mc

I didn't like the MC character design at first, but then I started to think of it as a reflection of his own opinion of himself. The main character is unbelievably short and chubby while all the other characters have typical anime designs however Haru has such a low self esteem he sees himself that way. His personality reflects that too, but there are enough moments where Haru "man's up" that he is an acceptable protagonist.

BurningSera

Ireland19621 Posts

February 20 2013 01:26 GMT

#53411

Because i expected more since i am coming from reading novels. And no it skipped alot of details of character development, ALOT. I am so touched by many the small things in AW and the novels are so damn exciting to read, I finished many books in one go so it was so damn painful to wait for the next one. But anime tries to oversell the moe elements or something i feel like alot of things are forceful, i simply lost interest to watch it after 4/5 episodes.

and ya the mc too.

BlackMagister

United States5834 Posts

February 20 2013 01:42 GMT

#53412

So it's the "I've read the book this movie is terrible" point where reading the original makes it hard to enjoy other versions? You already read the novel which goes in great detail on characters and events so why would the anime be interesting? What is the difference between Haru in the novels compared to the anime? I would imagine he still has incredibly low self esteem and his character design is still the same even though you don't have to look at him.

BurningSera

Ireland19621 Posts

February 20 2013 02:28 GMT

#53413

I dont really like the dude but the girls' stories with him are damn sweet, obviously the anime skipped alot dialogues or they modified them. And the battles could be done better, the designs of the burst linkers are just weak, for example manga is better than that. Haru's personality is abit off from novel, he is a low self esteem guy for sure but what happened is that in novel you read the character through the dialogues so when he manned up you can feel that in a few sentences and he can be low self esteem again in the next line (if you know what i mean).

But for anyone who didnt read the novels i dont think there should be issues with the anime, if one likes it then is fine. For me, some characters just dont feel like they are the ones that i know them from reading novels.

Like, say, I see the novel of The Book of Bantorra as one of the best LN (it is almost like a modern classic), its anime is not perfect but it is acceptable for a fan like me coming from reading novel (it is actually a very high quality anime but pity on small budget i guess). While the quality of the production of AW disappointed me.

ragz_gt

9172 Posts

February 20 2013 02:41 GMT

#53414

Well, anime would always skip a ton of dialogue, otherwise you'd have 1 vol per cour. At least it's not something like Horizon where they skipped 90% of stuff.

AW 2 cour covered 1200~ pages, which is about same rate as F/Z, pretty much most dense LN > anime can get (Horizon S2 1 cour covered 2000 pages).

Aerisky

United States12129 Posts

February 20 2013 02:50 GMT

#53415

Oh man, I was wondering why ADT exploded all of a sudden :O

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Outlaw, you might be able to get that ban down to 1/2 weeks if you talk nicely to a mod. You're generally pretty nice in here and while the caps exacerbated the situation, personally I think you might get it reduced if you apologize and send a nice pm.

Ushio

Canada868 Posts

February 20 2013 03:09 GMT

#53416

On February 20 2013 08:08 ragz_gt wrote:
I think people here are divided in that some think it's a silly show that can be entertaining if you turn your brain off while others think it's worst thing ever besides GSD.

I recognize the faults of GSD, but I didnt mind watching it. I really enjoyed the soundtrack but I watched it mainly because of the mecha fights and how hilarious Jesus Yamato is. Also Mu resurrecting himself from the dead.

lechup

Barbados1 Post

February 20 2013 04:06 GMT

#53417

Bot edit.

User was banned for this post.

ragz_gt

9172 Posts

February 20 2013 04:09 GMT

#53418

On February 20 2013 12:09 Ushio wrote:

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It's just that people who love CGR2 / SAO tends to love GSD, same with people who hate them.

XenOmega

Canada2822 Posts

February 20 2013 05:34 GMT

#53419

I must admit that I enjoyed more AW overall. SAO started great. I liked the idea of you getting killed = you dying IRL. But then, shit happened, and the anime turned into garbage.

Biggest complaint over AW is that they cry too much. The main char... I don't mind him being fat and small. Actually, pretty refreshing and it suits its type. While they don't die like in SAO, they do lose points, and eventually get their mind wiped out... But then again, AW isn't that great overall, just better than SAO, imo.

I don't really understand what's with all the discussion over what's better than what O.o
I remember most of you told me that MAL top list was not reliable. What's the point in then arguing that this or that should be higher or lower?

Onto another topic : How do you guys (girls) manage ongoing mangas? For example, you wait 1 month and get 1 chapter (roughly 30 pages). Is it better to just wait a long period to read a bunch of chapters or until the manga is finished before picking it up? I have a bad time getting into the mood of the manga with only 1 chapter :/ But at the same time, I don't want to wait forever to read what's going to happen next -_-

The wait is killing me

Sentenal

United States12398 Posts

February 20 2013 05:49 GMT

#53420

On February 20 2013 14:34 XenOmega wrote:
I must admit that I enjoyed more AW overall. SAO started great. I liked the idea of you getting killed = you dying IRL. But then, shit happened, and the anime turned into garbage.

Is the idea of "you getting killed=you die" really that special? I mean I guess there is the novelty value that its actually a video game, but the anime itself barely touches on alot of those themes/ideas.

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