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Kaal
Djibouti2514 Posts
The first half of clannad is bad because to first 60-70% of every Key VN is fucking terrible to read. As far as when we are finishing rewrite, it will be several weeks after that marker says 100% that we actually release the patch, maybe as much as a month. That only means scripting is done, we still have to do inserts, editing, and two beta tests. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
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Southlight
United States11767 Posts
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
[03:33:34] <Elem> Is no group going to sub milky holmes alternative 2 [03:33:34] <Elem> ;; Milky Holmes counts too. | ||
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generalyao
United States262 Posts
On January 05 2013 11:22 Kaal wrote: As far as VN adaptations go, the scale is Clannad------------------------------------>FSN->Tsukihime The first half of clannad is bad because to first 60-70% of every Key VN is fucking terrible to read. As far as when we are finishing rewrite, it will be several weeks after that marker says 100% that we actually release the patch, maybe as much as a month. That only means scripting is done, we still have to do inserts, editing, and two beta tests. Wait so you're saying Clannad was way better than the rest right? I've seen Clannad and FSN. I thought FSN was okay, just a bit disjointed or rushed or something. Quite can't phrase it right. Fate Zero way better. Is Tsukihime any good? And wait Kurisu was considered bad in the Steins Gate anime? And Clannad afterstory was only considered okay? Woahh maybe I should try reading VNs... | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On January 05 2013 11:38 generalyao wrote: Wait so you're saying Clannad was way better than the rest right? I've seen Clannad and FSN. I thought FSN was okay, just a bit disjointed or rushed or something. Quite can't phrase it right. Fate Zero way better. Is Tsukihime any good? And wait Kurisu was considered bad in the Steins Gate anime? And Clannad afterstory was only considered okay? Woahh maybe I should try reading VNs... Tsukihime anime is like universally reviled. But as a general rule of thumb, VN adaptions are seldom as good as their source + Show Spoiler + (IS THAT AN ACCEPTABLE WAY OF SAYING IT ELEM? BTW I WAS SAYING AN OPINION IN CASE YOU THOUGHT I WAS STATING FACT) | ||
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
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generalyao
United States262 Posts
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On January 05 2013 11:37 Elem wrote: Oh, as I was QQing [03:33:34] <Elem> Is no group going to sub milky holmes alternative 2 [03:33:34] <Elem> ;; Milky Holmes counts too. T_T sad days | ||
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Monokeros
United States2493 Posts
On December 21 2012 13:14 rabidch wrote: Top Anime 2012: SAO Top 3 OPs: SAO OP1 SAO OP2 SAO OP0 Top 3 EDs: SAO ED1 SAO ED2 SAO ED0 Most Overrated Anime: Everything except SAO Biggest Surprise: Nothing? SAO wasn't really a surprise. Guilty Pleasure which isn't really a Guilty Pleasure: SAO Best Male Character: KIRITO (seriously this guy got laid) Best Female Char: Asuna Best Seiyuu: everybody voicing SAO dudes Im offended. | ||
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Southlight
United States11767 Posts
I thought the F/SN anime was horrible, but most people in this thread are biased because they dislike the canon Heaven's Feel route from the VN. To clarify, the VN has three "routes," but the third is universally considered canon while the first two are considered "what if" type stories. The anime really only details the first, most straight-forward and bland route, while the third (HF) is more a continuation of Fate/Zero. Fate/Zero on the other hand is from a book, so there is no VN, and is also written by a different author (Urobuchi Gen, who generally belonged to Nitro+, which in an amusing little connection for this discussion is one of the two companies behind Chaos;Head and Steins;Gate). I loved Clannad, but I'm apparently a sucker for slice of life and tearjerkers. VN adaptations tend to struggle because VNs individually usually have more textual content than novels and come with a lot of "tricks" that cannot be performed as well via a book medium. After all, we're looking at an industry that catastrophically fails whenever presented with source material with more depth than a 200-page Middle School level book. The vast majority of VN adaptations then end up being adaptations of standard School RomCom Harem stuff. The ones that are actual quality source material that ARE picked up tend to also be picked up by said companies that are willing to grab the school RomCom stuff, because the stigma of being a porn game tends/tended to shy people away. That trend is obviously slowly being changed, but at the same time some of the better VN works have either already been taken or are basically impossible to animate. Hence the dilemma of Little Busters, where so many people pined for an anime, but it was always waved off by KyoAni due to its impossible nature. So then it gets picked up... by a much reviled studio. The end result you can imagine. Tsukihime anime was horrible, again for similar reasons as the F/SN anime, except that the Tsukihime VN was less of a start-to-finish affair and thus is even rougher to storyboard/animate. As a result you get an entire season of a single, bland route, which is fantastic for lore/background purposes but is useless in the context of a VN adaptation. There were if I remember correctly six routes, each of which diverged significantly from each other, and as a sum gave insight into the Tohno household and the world. Combined with ineffective storyboarding and horrible production quality you get something that many would rather carry on as if it never existed. A surprisingly good anime adaptation was OreTsuba (Oretachi ni Tsubasa ha Nai), despite it having some of the more nasty storyboarding obstacles in VNs. I would still highly recommending reading it instead if the possibility exists (I'm not very knowledgeable about translations), but if it is not possible, and you're not willing to wait however many years it may take, or don't intend to read anyways, then watching it is perfectly fine. | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
you dont like asuna? | ||
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thekaas
Denmark235 Posts
I haven't even watched it, and I still can't stand SAO. Don't worry. KiteSeekers-Wasurenai will pick it up once they're done with the other Milky Holmes 2. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On January 05 2013 11:43 Elem wrote: Eh, I cba to butt heads with you so it's good enough. Still think you shouldnt talk if you dont have much experience , though. Okay good I'm going to post that at the end of all my posts just for you, since apparently you have a hard time telling when people are posting an opinion or not + Show Spoiler + (IBTW I WAS SAYING AN OPINION IN CASE YOU THOUGHT I WAS STATING FACT) | ||
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nvzhi34
Bangladesh3 Posts
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Asuna is great. The first half of SAO is decent. SAO is overrated entry-level anime. The hate is warranted. (even if slightly overblown, since ''hardcore'' anime fans have anime as their one defining thing in their lives and thus tend to get very zealous about showing their superiority in tastes and time spent watching it) | ||
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Artifice
United States523 Posts
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Southlight
United States11767 Posts
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
On January 05 2013 12:14 Artifice wrote: Is there supposed to be any relation between s;g, c;h, and r;n? I just caught up on r;n and now I'm watching c;h, I keep hearing that 'Kagome, Kagome' beeping at random points. Also the world divergence number meter thingy from s;g was shown at the beginning of r;n. I don't read things about things, sorry if this is a dumb question. I believe it's the same world but the "universes" differ (events are distinct and unconnected), not sure though. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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