On April 30 2012 13:53 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:On April 30 2012 06:38 Kaal wrote:On April 30 2012 06:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
I think the main thing that disappoints me of people not liking Code Geass as much as me is not that they don't like it, but that they seem SO surprised that people like me like it so much.
The majority of its viewers thought it was a master piece, or close to it. Just check its ratings on anime sites, it has one of the highest ratings in all 3500+ or so notable anime works out there.
So really, the people who don't think it's good or didn't like it much are in the minority.
The reason CG R2 is rated so high on MAL and lots of other anime sites is because /a/ thought it would be funny to do that.
And there's definately not 3500+ notable anime.
That's a matter of opinion. When I mean notable I mean notable enough for ANN to have on its list of anime.
Also I can't believe if you really think /a/ effected the score that much. Look at the ratings 5 and below, even without /a/, it would be rated high. You think /a/ really contributed anything significant to the 3200 votes of 10/10?
Also if they really thought it was funny to do that, they probably all voted for Masterpiece. So even if all 3200 were /a/ users, it would still be rated highly. A BAD rating is like 5 or lower average. 8 is not bad, 7 is not bad, 6 is not bad. 6 is usually "ok" or "mediocre" or something like that.
Also, look at Code Geass season 1. It has 7000 ratings, and most of us here say that, if you just look at Code Geass season 1, it wasn't bad. I doubt /a/ voted there and made its ratings really high as well, do you?
Now if 3000 of the votes for Code Geass R2 were all from /a/, the show would still average out to be an 8 or 9, which is still a high rating. However that means that only a third of the people who watched and rated Code Geass watched and rated R2, which seems quite unlikely.
So unless if I'm missing some other bit of info or reasoning here, my claim still stands that people who think Code Geass is bad bad are the minority.
On April 30 2012 07:00 solidbebe wrote:On April 30 2012 06:37 Tabbris wrote:
Naruto is a masterpiece
Are you
trying to turn this into nuclear warfare?
Haha that made me laugh xD
On April 30 2012 06:36 Tabbris wrote:On April 30 2012 06:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
I think the main thing that disappoints me of people not liking Code Geass as much as me is not that they don't like it, but that they seem SO surprised that people like me like it so much.
The majority of its viewers thought it was a master piece, or close to it. Just check its ratings on anime sites, it has one of the highest ratings in all 3500+ or so notable anime works out there.
So really, the people who don't think it's good or didn't like it much are in the minority.
Masterpiece (or chef d'œuvre) in modern usage refers to a creation that has been given much
critical praise, especially one that is considered the greatest work of a person's career or to a work of outstanding creativity, skill or workmanship.
Well what do you mean by critical praise here? I'm just using masterpiece in the way that it is, relative to other similar works, one of the best, and/or is one of the best works of that creator. Which I think everyone should be able to agree is Goro Taniguchi's best.
If you want to use that definition in terms of "critical" praise, as in, does this show "deserve" to be praised, rather than whether people like it or not (for example, lots of people like naruto but it sucks), then Code Geass has won numerous awards. So, yes, it is still a masterpiece. Not many anime win several awards, let alone one, especially considering how many meidocre anime there are that people don't even know about cus... well, they're not notable xD
On April 30 2012 07:05 Sentenal wrote:On April 30 2012 00:37 Kaal wrote:On April 29 2012 21:50 FreudianTrip wrote:
Let me prefix this with the fact that I'm not a huge anime guy, I just watch the main ones (Champloo, Trigun, Bebop etc.)
So after consulting the reccomendation image I watched Darker Than Black, started off thinking it was awful but it got pretty good towards the end.
I've finished the first series and I notice there seems to be a season 1.5 and 2. Is it worth watching either of these? I kind of feel like I've experienced the arc of the story and don't really know where it can go that's any good. Just Hei being chased for 23 episodes doesn't seem very exciting.
Should I bother with it or just move on to something else?
Move on to something else.
S2 is terrible, as is the OVA.
Sent, why the fuck did you start reading hoshizora. That's like the exact opposite of anything you'd ever like.
It's like if you read Da Capo.
But! But! Those blonde chicks! Really hot!
On April 30 2012 05:12 mcimba42 wrote:
I don't think I've ever posted in this thread but I occasionally lurk around for a couple of pages and I happened to see the Code Geass discussion above, and I think there are a lot of people who just try to take that show way more seriously than they should.
I see people here watching and enjoying those generic moe moe "cute girls doing cute things" shows that air every season, but then they claim Code Geass is awful for having a bunch of plot holes and a generally pants on head retarded plot. But is that all there is to anime? Do you really watch cartoons for the amazing literary value they're well known to have? I don't think anyone will say they liked Geass because of the deep psychological themes, or the intricate plot, or the interesting and well developed characters. I personally enjoyed it because of stuff like the brilliant military tactics from the brilliant military mastermind that is Lelouch (such as baiting people onto a bridge and making it collapse, baiting people into a building and making it collapse, or baiting people onto a bridge and making a building collapse on top of it), all of the fabulous and the borderline homo, the pretty mechas, the jumbled mess it called plot (like going through the "sword of akasha" and into the "world of c", where he met his deceased mother and did something to God, thus choosing the future instead of the past), the ridiculous chess metaphors (complete with illegal chess moves), the "Haha, I just predicted every word you would have said in a 20 minute long conversation and prepared a video of me replying perfectly with 100% exact timing to fool you. For the second time!", the "who is this guy, hasn't he died twice alrea--LOYALTY!!", the completely bullshit cliffhangers every other episode, the YAMATO DAMASHII NIHON BANZAI, etc, etc. It doesn't deserve any awards, not is it revolutionary (or even good, in terms of "objective" quality), but I found it really fucking enjoyable to watch. Sure, it was a trainwreck, but as any self respecting trainwreck, it's bloody entertaining to watch. It's definitely no masterpiece (in fact, I'd love to try whatever the guy who said that has been smoking recently), but I found it a hell of a lot more entertaining and enjoyable than anything in these last couple of seasons.
But that is wrong, laughably horribly wrong. Have you never read what people who love Code Geass say about the show??? The praise it for EXACTLY those reasons.
>brilliant tactics from brilliant military mastermind
Stopped reading there.
Well it is a masterpiece, relatively. How many anime can you name that are better than Code Geass in its genre, or what it does? (Extremely stylistic anime hitting a bunch of audiences with a unique ending).
What, how many mecha shows are better?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=234486http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=332650Practically every show I mentioned is better.
On April 30 2012 06:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
I think the main thing that disappoints me of people not liking Code Geass as much as me is not that they don't like it, but that they seem SO surprised that people like me like it so much.
The majority of its viewers thought it was a master piece, or close to it. Just check its ratings on anime sites, it has one of the highest ratings in all 3500+ or so notable anime works out there.
So really, the people who don't think it's good or didn't like it much are in the minority.
Popularity is not an indication of quality, please stop using that argument. Or are you going to start telling me Naruto and Bleach are masterpieces?
Well I'd have to disagree, and the majority of viewers do as well, according to many anime websites and reviews.
Also, Code Geass is not just a mecha anime. I did not watch it for the mecha. It balances quite a lot of different things, but the thing that made it unique was its high dramatization and style. How many shows are out there that can hit so many different audiences?
I did not note popularity as quality. I never used that, so how about you not put words into my mouth and talking like a (excuse me) smart ass? Now if I were to say, Code Geass has so many ratings compared to other shows, then you could have said that. But that's not what I said.
Naruto and Bleach, as you should know, have bad reviews, and bad ratings. Bad means like, below 6 on average.
On April 30 2012 08:18 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Code Geass is basically an anime where you turn off your brain and enjoy everything, because if you actually thought about it, all you'd think about is how bad most of the characters are and how nonsensical the plot is (hey look, 19th century battle tactics with robots! \o/ )
This is why everyone thought Guilty Crown was garbage. It's because they forgot that when you have Code Geass writers, the best way to enjoy is to just not think about it. If you threw all of that away, it was actually pretty entertaining.
Hm, I heard many bad things about GC. When the show was halfway done, I checked its ratings on ANN, it was very very mixed... some were rating masterpiece, but the same number were rating 2/10, 4/10, 6/10, etc. But towards the end, its ratings got decent.
I saw the first two episodes, which were alright. They were enjoyable, but I wasn't hooked. Actually the first episode was wtf and was like a direct copy of CG's first episode, but I could actually understand what was going on in the second episode, though it still seemed like Code Geass but just smashed up and remixed though with better animation quality. I heard it gets bad in the middle, but then the MC mans up and the show gets better again.
Anyway, so if you were like me and turned off our brains and were able to enjoy it, how would you rate GC in comparison to CG? Worth the watch or not?
(Btw actually the main writer Goro Taniguchi wasn't on it, only the other guy ichiro or something.)