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Dullahan
United States248 Posts
... yeah he pretty much summarized it So uh, possible irony aside, I d/l'd School Days, trying to decide how low to set my expectations. Is it really that bad, or just the ending? On a brighter note, I switched back to using Chrome (previously FF), set this pic as my new-tab background: + Show Spoiler [<3] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Psdfc.png) P.S. stumbled across this recently. Sakuya+Homura combo awesomeimbalulz + Show Spoiler [Touhou x Madoka] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/zgHdz.jpg) | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On July 16 2012 07:11 Dullahan wrote: lulz Day9 on Elfen Lied ... yeah he pretty much summarized it So uh, possible irony aside, I d/l'd School Days, trying to decide how low to set my expectations. Is it really that bad, or just the ending? On a brighter note, I switched back to using Chrome (previously FF), set this pic as my new-tab background: + Show Spoiler [<3] + P.S. stumbled across this recently. Sakuya+Homura combo awesomeimbalulz + Show Spoiler [Touhou x Madoka] + I'm using a version of this that's centered: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/RlnBd.png) Always nice to see a Lillybro about. | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On July 16 2012 07:03 Emnjay808 wrote: Why do some people insist on finishing anime that they label as "crap"? I always drop anime if I dont enjoy it. But I guess some people like to push through the entire series then complain about it later, or brag that they finished it and lived to tell the tale. It feels very incomplete to start a series and then just not finish it. It's sort of like when you get a meal and it's not that great but still edible. You still feel like you should finish it even though you can probably find better since you're already invested in it. + Show Spoiler [Gundam Unicorn] + Okay, finally started this. I'm not terribly familiar with the UC series though so hope everything still makes sense! Episode 1 seemed good. | ||
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Artifice
United States523 Posts
On July 16 2012 07:03 Emnjay808 wrote: Why do some people insist on finishing anime that they label as "crap"? I always drop anime if I dont enjoy it. But I guess some people like to push through the entire series then complain about it later, or brag that they finished it and lived to tell the tale. That being said, Im not a masochist per se, but I do find this incredibly sexy: + Show Spoiler + Watching most anime isn't much of a time investment, and it's usually more entertaining than sitting here doing nothing, so even if it's bad, you might as well watch it and hope it gets better (this applies more to ongoing stuff I suppose, 20min a week or w/e). That said, I enjoyed Elfen Lied (although I watched it a looong time ago and don't even remember it that well). | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
The whole Zeon vs. Feds history puts the actions of these individuals in perspective. I am watching the Zeta re-release/re-master after Stardust Memories and that added more depth to a lot of the characters than my initial viewing. Unicorn stands well on its own but its so much better when you understand where the characters stand in the big picture. | ||
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Latham
9566 Posts
On July 16 2012 07:03 Emnjay808 wrote: Why do some people insist on finishing anime that they label as "crap"? I always drop anime if I dont enjoy it. But I guess some people like to push through the entire series then complain about it later, or brag that they finished it and lived to tell the tale. That being said, Im not a masochist per se, but I do find this incredibly sexy: + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v2dqxP_wJs Because if I start something I: 1. want to finish it 2. I want to be certain that what I'm calling shit really IS shit, not to be later called out on having a biased opinion based on "a few" episodes. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On July 16 2012 07:35 Artifice wrote: Watching most anime isn't much of a time investment, and it's usually more entertaining than sitting here doing nothing, so even if it's bad, you might as well watch it and hope it gets better (this applies more to ongoing stuff I suppose, 20min a week or w/e). That said, I enjoyed Elfen Lied (although I watched it a looong time ago and don't even remember it that well). I think it's a pretty big time investment... Even a half series of 12 episodes is like 4 hours. That's a lot of time...If I watch 3 episodes, I already used up an hour... On July 16 2012 07:42 Latham wrote: Because if I start something I: 1. want to finish it 2. I want to be certain that what I'm calling shit really IS shit, not to be later called out on having a biased opinion based on "a few" episodes. Hey it's exactly what I said xD | ||
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Maxie
Sweden2653 Posts
Exception was School Days since watching it just made me angry all the time, lol. | ||
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Latham
9566 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On July 16 2012 07:46 Maxie wrote: Well, if you were to actually drop a show, when would you do it? I tend to stick to the rule of always watching at least 3 episodes, so if I do drop something, it's about there. Of course it might get better later on, you never know... but if I have watched half of the episodes and it gets bad, I'd just finish it anyway. Exception was School Days since watching it just made me angry all the time, lol. Well, I have never dropped a show, if I start something, I finish it. I do try to read a little bit about the shows I'm thinking of starting and asking around so I can minimize the amount of time "wasted" on a bad show =P I also don't watch stuff as it airs and only watch completed series (impatient, don't like waiting week to week) so it tends to be easier to gauge/predict how much I'll like the show based on info gathered. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On July 16 2012 07:47 Latham wrote: Sorry CS, it's almost 1 am here, NASL is fucking my sleep schedule up yet again, and I can barely keep a coherent thought. It took me 5 mins to write that post even, because I forgot 3x what I was supposed to write. Nothing to apologize for lol o_O I was just amused that you said almost the exact same thing phrased in the exact same way xD | ||
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Dullahan
United States248 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On July 16 2012 07:59 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Nothing to apologize for lol o_O I was just amused that you said almost the exact same thing phrased in the exact same way xD OH EM GEE Soul mates ! Elfen Lieds manga really wasnt that bad. Everyone should watch the show, just because. I dont really feel the need to complete painfully bad shit anymore. Maybe a few years back, time is alot more scarce now. | ||
Spazer
Canada8032 Posts
On July 16 2012 06:49 Requizen wrote: Elfen Lied isn't as bad as you're making it out to be. I mean yeah, it's horrible weeaboo crap, but I finished it without my eyes melting out of their sockets or trying to kill myself. A couple of times they brought up interesting points about the nature of humans and monsters, but they conveniently about all of this somewhere down the line. The series ended up being more about gore than anything else, which is fine in a way, I guess. On July 16 2012 06:57 Gowma wrote: Elfen lied is a good (7-7,5 out of 10) anime, but has a bad end. Manga is way better. The manga ending is also bad. It's just bad in a different way. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
I'm a big, big fan of the .hack// series. Not necessarily the individual works, but as a whole the world and premise set forth is comparable to some of the best in terms of contemporary fiction. The premise of .hack// is that an ingenious programmer constructs a world ("The World") which is a giant MMORPG... but behind the scenes a lot of stuff is administered by AI. The crux of the series is the "battle" of sorts between normal people who just want to play the game, normal people who are fascinated by the game, hackers, virii, benevolent AI, indifferent AI, and ultimately, malevolent AI. Through it all you see what is now considered typical (although often forgotten/overlooked) mixture of people of all sorts of backgrounds. It's this setting that .hack//sign attempted to explore and present, and it's the setting and the mixture of all sorts of seemingly random people banding together that makes that anime series what it was. Bear in mind that .hack//sign ran in 2002, a whole ten years ago. MMORPGs in the day were stuff like Asheron's Call, Everquest, and Ultimate Online. The concept of an MMO world being present in ordinary life, even considered mainstream, was absurd. Combine that with the fantasy of augmented reality and you can understand how almost prophetic the .hack// series was. On the other hand, Sword Art Online intrigued me with its premise. It is a similar one: an ingenious programmer constructs an augmented reality MMORPG. It then locks people into the game, forcing them into a giant social experiment of having to face life or death within the MMORPG. Fascinating. A very interesting thought and social experiment, and it's something that is touched on quite heavily throughout the first volume. The will and minds of people against the brink, having to beat a game amid the conundrum of whether it's even worth leaving. The slow degeneration of certain sects of people into fanaticism as the number of people (players) dwindles. The discrimination against "beaters" (beta + cheaters), or beta-testers who were perceived to have advantages over the ordinary people. It was, in one word, interesting. I loved the first AND second volumes, the latter of which provided the "filler backstory short stories" to the doings of Kirito and what made him charismatic to certain sects of people (while being feared by others, allowing him to remain solo and generally unbothered). Had they swapped the order of the volumes, it would have been even better. Get to know the world, the character, then end it. That's the problem though, and where the comparisons stop. SPOILER ALERT! Sword Art Online + Show Spoiler + ends at volume 1. Indeed, after the short story collection that is volume 2, IT IS NO LONGER SWORD ART ONLINE. But Uta, .hack// spans several games, too! Touche, but the difference is that .hack// doesn't use the different worlds as a plot device. Rather, the different worlds are a logical progression of the consequences of the bloodbath that ensues during the course of each part of the story. "The World" ends soon after .hack//sign because of all the comatose people: the government and such do not react kindly to a dangerous game. This makes sense! It is later that "The World: R2" is created - IIRC like ten years later - thanks to a revamped engine and what programmers hoped was the fixing of bugs - an assumption they would (spoiler alert!) realize was false because the battle between the AI had not actually been ended by simply shutting down The World. This sets the stage for .hack//G.U. in which Aura and Morganna Mode Gone basically go to war. And a fascinating story did G.U. present, as all sorts of random people get sucked into or willingly walk into the AI/virus war out of luck or interest or whatnot. All the motivations, the IRL vs in-game emotions and concerns, they were interesting, and fleshed out the world to be what it was. You can argue that the game was not very good, the presentation was so-so, but the effort was there, and what resulted was a collective beauty. But SAO? The subsequent worlds become stereotypical shit. That's fine, given that it draws a lot of its material from the stereotypical garbage MMORPGs that have flooded the market. That's probably why people try to compare it to .hack//, as it's a "more contemporary" take at the MMORPG genre, without the marketing drivel that accompanies horrible stuff like Tower of Druaga (although that ultimately decided to fuck it all and run the parody comedy route) and all sorts of anime series titled after MMORPGs. The problem is that you get a cast that is basically all middle school kids (how realistic! oh wait, not) who appear to be ga-ga over the same character (what're the odds, right? must be a Small Multiplayer Online RPG) and seem to live in the same neighborhood (what're the o- oh wait it's just Japan). There's like no consistent plotline, it's just a typical shoujo/shounen-esque pattern where you get one MOB OF THE WEEK(volume) after another. Which, I guess I shouldn't be too critical of given that it's a light novel (wrong set of standards maybe) but all it becomes is just a quirky version of Naruto/Bleach. Whatever floats your boat. Oh, and Eca, the yuri couple certain was <3 for .hack//sign, but I like all the other stuff too, and I can't recall too many other lesbian couples in the series. I enjoyed the relationship of such as Haseo (especially when you know his background, teehee) and Ovan though, as well as Bear and the rest of the cast in .hack//sign. | ||
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
Edit: Hmm, well, actually you might. I don't know where it picks up from though, so you might jump in at an inopportune moment. It's overall just like a "last days of the Shinsengumi" sort of thing, so... if you're fine with basically walking in on death scenes, sure? lol | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On July 16 2012 10:01 tonight wrote: Can I enjoy Hakuouki: Reimei-roku without knowing dick about the rest of the series? The rest of it being the first two seasons. Probably its a prequel. Knowing a bit about history might actually be more usefull. The first 2 are the last days of shinsengumi with some random fantasy shit thrown in for quirks, I dropped it someway into S2. | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
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