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On October 24 2011 11:47 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 08:19 KazeHydra wrote:
I may love Yuno and her yandere antics, but in the end tsundere is the only dere for me. Let us not forget the beautiful example of Makise Kurisu in this hyped season of the yandere. What do people see in tsunderes? -_-
Hey I don't say that about you and lolis 
But to sum up my attraction to tsunderes in a word, it would be embarrassment. The way they get embarrassed and blush into anger at the simplest of things and try so hard to hide it is very cute to me. The progression and conquest of getting a tsundere to slowly warm up to you and finally admit her undying love despite her seemingly unlimited embarrassment is something I really enjoy. It's not so much that I like the tsun-mode of yelling, screaming, abuse, etc, but that because she does that so much, her dere-mode becomes far more enjoyable because it's a rarity of sorts. It's this logic that makes it special and meaningful when she finally admits she is in love.
I think the same can be said of those who like yanderes. It's not the craziness of keeping you to herself at any cost that attracts people but that she is crazy in her love for you. The yan/tsun complements the dere in a way that makes the dere more attractive; it's not the craziness/abuse that is actually attractive but how these attributes change the way the dere is perceived.
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Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you
I just don't get how people can be willing to put up with the bitchiness. Maybe I could from the right person, but I dunno. D:
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On October 24 2011 12:13 KazeHydra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 11:47 Ferrose wrote:On October 24 2011 08:19 KazeHydra wrote:
I may love Yuno and her yandere antics, but in the end tsundere is the only dere for me. Let us not forget the beautiful example of Makise Kurisu in this hyped season of the yandere. What do people see in tsunderes? -_- Hey I don't say that about you and lolis But to sum up my attraction to tsunderes in a word, it would be embarrassment. The way they get embarrassed and blush into anger at the simplest of things and try so hard to hide it is very cute to me. The progression and conquest of getting a tsundere to slowly warm up to you and finally admit her undying love despite her seemingly unlimited embarrassment is something I really enjoy. It's not so much that I like the tsun-mode of yelling, screaming, abuse, etc, but that because she does that so much, her dere-mode becomes far more enjoyable because it's a rarity of sorts. It's this logic that makes it special and meaningful when she finally admits she is in love. I think the same can be said of those who like yanderes. It's not the craziness of keeping you to herself at any cost that attracts people but that she is crazy in her love for you. The yan/tsun complements the dere in a way that makes the dere more attractive; it's not the craziness/abuse that is actually attractive but how these attributes change the way the dere is perceived.
MY BROTHER!!!!! =D Tsundere love! Embarrassment is the best
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On October 24 2011 12:20 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 12:13 KazeHydra wrote:On October 24 2011 11:47 Ferrose wrote:On October 24 2011 08:19 KazeHydra wrote:
I may love Yuno and her yandere antics, but in the end tsundere is the only dere for me. Let us not forget the beautiful example of Makise Kurisu in this hyped season of the yandere. What do people see in tsunderes? -_- Hey I don't say that about you and lolis But to sum up my attraction to tsunderes in a word, it would be embarrassment. The way they get embarrassed and blush into anger at the simplest of things and try so hard to hide it is very cute to me. The progression and conquest of getting a tsundere to slowly warm up to you and finally admit her undying love despite her seemingly unlimited embarrassment is something I really enjoy. It's not so much that I like the tsun-mode of yelling, screaming, abuse, etc, but that because she does that so much, her dere-mode becomes far more enjoyable because it's a rarity of sorts. It's this logic that makes it special and meaningful when she finally admits she is in love. I think the same can be said of those who like yanderes. It's not the craziness of keeping you to herself at any cost that attracts people but that she is crazy in her love for you. The yan/tsun complements the dere in a way that makes the dere more attractive; it's not the craziness/abuse that is actually attractive but how these attributes change the way the dere is perceived. MY BROTHER!!!!! =D Tsundere love! Embarrassment is the best
As expected from Blast, you also understand the true beauty of the tsundere ^_^
On October 24 2011 12:18 Ferrose wrote:Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you I just don't get how people can be willing to put up with the bitchiness. Maybe I could from the right person, but I dunno. D:
Nah, not offended at all. I'm just pointing out it's a simple difference in perception. Of course, real life tsunderes could get quite annoying, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying them in my anime. Also, there are plenty of different levels of tsun; I've said this before but recently, anime has been saturated in pretty bad examples of tsundere: too much tsun and hardly any dere. But if you look at Kurisu (yes, I'm going to keep using her as an example every time the tsundere topic arises), she really doesn't do that much abuse and keeps it solely to blushing in embarrassment and retaliating with only a few short sentences, and she has plenty of dere especially near the end. Embarrassment is what makes tsunderes truly great; I also can do without all the bitching that is too common in the tsundere nowadays.
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On October 24 2011 12:18 Ferrose wrote:Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you I just don't get how people can be willing to put up with the bitchiness. Maybe I could from the right person, but I dunno. D:
It like eating a Sour Patch (sour candy), first they are sours and taste like crap but you dont spit it out because once you give it enough time and you embrace the flavor, it rewards you with it sweetness. :D
That my friend, is why Tsundere is the best dere. <3
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I think Makise Kurisu is a very accurate presentation of a Tsundere much more than the mainstream Tsunderes, since they lack dere
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On October 24 2011 12:13 KazeHydra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 11:47 Ferrose wrote:On October 24 2011 08:19 KazeHydra wrote:
I may love Yuno and her yandere antics, but in the end tsundere is the only dere for me. Let us not forget the beautiful example of Makise Kurisu in this hyped season of the yandere. What do people see in tsunderes? -_- I think the same can be said of those who like yanderes. It's not the craziness of keeping you to herself at any cost that attracts people but that she is crazy in her love for you. The yan/tsun complements the dere in a way that makes the dere more attractive; it's not the craziness/abuse that is actually attractive but how these attributes change the way the dere is perceived.
Dunno about the rest of you, but I like yanderes because they can be unpredictable, and are very driven. The dere is is mostly unnecessary, but it does give the character some nice rationale for their actions. Straight up yangires are fine too.
As for tsunderes, its far too common of a character archetype at this point, and everybody seems to follow the same patterns. There are exceptions, but there's no denying that the vast majority of tsunderes are pretty badly written.
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On October 24 2011 12:38 Spazer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 12:13 KazeHydra wrote:On October 24 2011 11:47 Ferrose wrote:On October 24 2011 08:19 KazeHydra wrote:
I may love Yuno and her yandere antics, but in the end tsundere is the only dere for me. Let us not forget the beautiful example of Makise Kurisu in this hyped season of the yandere. What do people see in tsunderes? -_- I think the same can be said of those who like yanderes. It's not the craziness of keeping you to herself at any cost that attracts people but that she is crazy in her love for you. The yan/tsun complements the dere in a way that makes the dere more attractive; it's not the craziness/abuse that is actually attractive but how these attributes change the way the dere is perceived. Dunno about the rest of you, but I like yanderes because they can be unpredictable, and are very driven. The dere is is mostly unnecessary, but it does give the character some nice rationale for their actions. Straight up yangires are fine too. As for tsunderes, its far too common of a character archetype at this point, and everybody seems to follow the same patterns. There are exceptions, but there's no denying that the vast majority of tsunderes are pretty badly written.
Yandere acts extremely independent though, while tusndere kind of meet your parameters somewhere in the middle. Yandere stories are written by the Yandere, Tsundere story is written by her and the Protagonist. Tsunderes cannot function alone, and a weak protagonist will surely stage a tsundere to fail. Such as ZnT. Where as a strong Protagonist will always compliment a good tsundere to make her even better.
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On October 24 2011 12:18 Ferrose wrote:Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you I just don't get how people can be willing to put up with the bitchiness. Maybe I could from the right person, but I dunno. D:
Weren't you the guy who said that Louise in ZnT "wasn't that bad"?
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On October 24 2011 12:50 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 12:18 Ferrose wrote:Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you I just don't get how people can be willing to put up with the bitchiness. Maybe I could from the right person, but I dunno. D: Weren't you the guy who said that Louise in ZnT "wasn't that bad"?
Louise is special.
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Mawaru Penguindrum. That's all.
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On October 24 2011 12:23 KazeHydra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 12:20 Blasterion wrote:On October 24 2011 12:13 KazeHydra wrote:On October 24 2011 11:47 Ferrose wrote:On October 24 2011 08:19 KazeHydra wrote:
I may love Yuno and her yandere antics, but in the end tsundere is the only dere for me. Let us not forget the beautiful example of Makise Kurisu in this hyped season of the yandere. What do people see in tsunderes? -_- Hey I don't say that about you and lolis But to sum up my attraction to tsunderes in a word, it would be embarrassment. The way they get embarrassed and blush into anger at the simplest of things and try so hard to hide it is very cute to me. The progression and conquest of getting a tsundere to slowly warm up to you and finally admit her undying love despite her seemingly unlimited embarrassment is something I really enjoy. It's not so much that I like the tsun-mode of yelling, screaming, abuse, etc, but that because she does that so much, her dere-mode becomes far more enjoyable because it's a rarity of sorts. It's this logic that makes it special and meaningful when she finally admits she is in love. I think the same can be said of those who like yanderes. It's not the craziness of keeping you to herself at any cost that attracts people but that she is crazy in her love for you. The yan/tsun complements the dere in a way that makes the dere more attractive; it's not the craziness/abuse that is actually attractive but how these attributes change the way the dere is perceived. MY BROTHER!!!!! =D Tsundere love! Embarrassment is the best As expected from Blast, you also understand the true beauty of the tsundere ^_^ Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 12:18 Ferrose wrote:Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you I just don't get how people can be willing to put up with the bitchiness. Maybe I could from the right person, but I dunno. D: Nah, not offended at all. I'm just pointing out it's a simple difference in perception. Of course, real life tsunderes could get quite annoying, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying them in my anime. Also, there are plenty of different levels of tsun; I've said this before but recently, anime has been saturated in pretty bad examples of tsundere: too much tsun and hardly any dere. But if you look at Kurisu (yes, I'm going to keep using her as an example every time the tsundere topic arises), she really doesn't do that much abuse and keeps it solely to blushing in embarrassment and retaliating with only a few short sentences, and she has plenty of dere especially near the end. Embarrassment is what makes tsunderes truly great; I also can do without all the bitching that is too common in the tsundere nowadays.
No offense to your love for tsunderes, it's your personal preference which is fine, but I am also not a tsundere fan. Yanderes are fun to watch because they're usually in pretty interesting animes... But tsunderes... sometimes I just want to smack them on the head and make them mad on purpose just to toy with them. The repetitive blushing and whacks get annoying after a while.
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On October 24 2011 12:55 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 12:50 Sentenal wrote:On October 24 2011 12:18 Ferrose wrote:Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you I just don't get how people can be willing to put up with the bitchiness. Maybe I could from the right person, but I dunno. D: Weren't you the guy who said that Louise in ZnT "wasn't that bad"? Louise is special. Actually she is the personification of bitchy tsunderes.
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On October 24 2011 09:21 Southlight wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 21:28 Spazer wrote:
In conclusion, Yukikaze (the show) is a show I both loved and hated. The story, pacing, and execution are all rather suspect, but the battles were fantastic, and the ideas explored with Yukikaze (the AI) were genuinely interesting. I highly, highly recommend it. The pacing is slow and all over the place, so at the end you end up having to sift through all the information and try to piece together what's going on (not usually good show of storyboarding and directing), but aside from the combat, the depiction of human computer interaction is probably one of the best in anime format. It's probably the most direct humanization of how difficult it is to trust things that you don't understand at the most fundamental of levels - valuation of life.
I might watch this since I love me some planes.
And after watching Sky Crawlers, thanks Uta!, should I watch the other ones that were recommended to Ferrose?
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On October 24 2011 13:22 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 12:55 Ferrose wrote:On October 24 2011 12:50 Sentenal wrote:On October 24 2011 12:18 Ferrose wrote:Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you I just don't get how people can be willing to put up with the bitchiness. Maybe I could from the right person, but I dunno. D: Weren't you the guy who said that Louise in ZnT "wasn't that bad"? Louise is special. Actually she is the personification of bitchy tsunderes.
Little redundant, isn't it?
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Hey hey, some aren't bitchy...
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On October 24 2011 12:55 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 12:50 Sentenal wrote:On October 24 2011 12:18 Ferrose wrote:Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you I just don't get how people can be willing to put up with the bitchiness. Maybe I could from the right person, but I dunno. D: Weren't you the guy who said that Louise in ZnT "wasn't that bad"? Louise is special.
cause she's a loli?
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Guilty Crown
+ Show Spoiler +Funeral Parlor? Is that really there name? What kind of terrorist/liberation group name is that suppose to be. >.>
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On October 24 2011 14:06 NationInArms wrote:Guilty Crown + Show Spoiler +Funeral Parlor? Is that really there name? What kind of terrorist/liberation group name is that suppose to be. >.>
What subs did you use? O_o
On October 24 2011 14:02 Nagisama wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 12:55 Ferrose wrote:On October 24 2011 12:50 Sentenal wrote:On October 24 2011 12:18 Ferrose wrote:Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you I just don't get how people can be willing to put up with the bitchiness. Maybe I could from the right person, but I dunno. D: Weren't you the guy who said that Louise in ZnT "wasn't that bad"? Louise is special. cause she's a loli?
You guys wouldn't understand. But Louise has a special place in my heart.
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On October 24 2011 14:06 NationInArms wrote:Guilty Crown + Show Spoiler +Funeral Parlor? Is that really there name? What kind of terrorist/liberation group name is that suppose to be. >.>
Going with Horrible Subs rather than Commie?
We decided to go with “Undertaker” instead of “the Funeral Parlor” because the latter sounds fucking retarded.
Interesting subjects we get on IRC sometimes, thanks to one of the youngest people on it:
[01:16] <AP0CALYPSE> how old is blasty? [01:16] <Sentenal> younger than me [01:16] <Sentenal> older than you [01:16] <Vysaga> mental age is like 15 though I think [01:16] <AP0CALYPSE> doesnt he have like a wife and kids? [01:16] <Vysaga> wat [01:16] <Sentenal> wat [01:16] <CSheep> wat
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