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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
October 09 2010 01:34 GMT
#1261
He survived in both. That question has been answered so many times now, @___@.
Jaedong
Zanot
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6 Posts
October 09 2010 01:50 GMT
#1262
I don't think we'll see a new nakama until the new world truly begins. Jimbei is possible but hes more part of the old generation of pirates where Luffy's crew is all about the new generation (admittedly Brooke is kinda old but he isn't notorious like Jimbei).

I'm gonna go ahead and guess this first post skip arc will be about showing off the SH's new powers; schooling Sentoumaru and the pacifistas who caused them so many problems when they were last at Shabondy. I don't know if they'll spend a lot of time at Fishman Island but if anything happens down there I suspect it will involve the Tenryuubito being racist douches again. Theres been so much build up to the new world though that I would expect it to move onto there quite quickly.

LunarC
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1186 Posts
October 09 2010 01:52 GMT
#1263
Did anyone see Sentoumaru's new coat? Is he a vice-admiral now?
REEBUH!!!
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
October 09 2010 03:04 GMT
#1264
I don't see why everyone thinks the size of his crew that he wanted at the very beginning is a number set in stone, and that he HAS to have that many people; no more or no less.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
October 09 2010 03:08 GMT
#1265
Well it is not beyond common thought to think that Duval might be rewarded with a spot amongst the crew for his valiant Sunny Defence. Point being that they might get a few minions while these people may not be main cast they will be fine additions.
"Mudkip"
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
October 09 2010 03:12 GMT
#1266
On October 09 2010 12:04 Sentenal wrote:
I don't see why everyone thinks the size of his crew that he wanted at the very beginning is a number set in stone, and that he HAS to have that many people; no more or no less.


It's Oda, bro. Where have you been?
Writer
proxY_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1561 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-09 03:16:31
October 09 2010 03:15 GMT
#1267
On October 09 2010 12:04 Sentenal wrote:
I don't see why everyone thinks the size of his crew that he wanted at the very beginning is a number set in stone, and that he HAS to have that many people; no more or no less.


We've seen that Oda has planned the major events in the manga out from the very beginning. Rayleigh is in chapter 19 and hes introduced formally like 481 chapters later, that's insane. I'm sure that Oda had every major event in the story fully mapped out before the series began, including who all the crew members were.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-09 03:15:40
October 09 2010 03:15 GMT
#1268
On October 09 2010 12:12 Souma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 12:04 Sentenal wrote:
I don't see why everyone thinks the size of his crew that he wanted at the very beginning is a number set in stone, and that he HAS to have that many people; no more or no less.


It's Oda, bro. Where have you been?

Just because its Oda, doesn't mean that "I would like 10 crew members" means there can be only 10 crew members. If it were entirely up to Luffy, the crew would have easily broken 10 crew members in Thriller Bark.

Also, Luffy is not Oda.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
LunarC
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1186 Posts
October 09 2010 03:20 GMT
#1269
On October 09 2010 12:15 proxY_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 12:04 Sentenal wrote:
I don't see why everyone thinks the size of his crew that he wanted at the very beginning is a number set in stone, and that he HAS to have that many people; no more or no less.


We've seen that Oda has planned the major events in the manga out from the very beginning. Rayleigh is in chapter 19 and hes introduced formally like 481 chapters later, that's insane. I'm sure that Oda had every major event in the story fully mapped out before the series began, including who all the crew members were.

Obviously you don't know how manga is written. The most anyone would ever plan out in a serialized shounen is the next story arc. Oda simply plucked an old character design from an old flashback and used it to craft the character Rayleigh. Oda never imagined back then that One Piece would expand to the scale it has.
REEBUH!!!
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-09 03:24:14
October 09 2010 03:22 GMT
#1270
You can choose not to believe in Oda, that's your right. But seriously, it's Oda. I just can't reiterate that fact enough. Either way, we'll see. I would like Luffy to have more than 10 crew mates, seeing as how the manga is only halfway done, but I believe in Oda.

Obviously you don't know how manga is written. The most anyone would ever plan out in a serialized shounen is the next story arc. Oda simply plucked an old character design from an old flashback and used it to craft the character Rayleigh. Oda never imagined back then that One Piece would expand to the scale it has.


I say the whole Laboon/Brooke thing proves you wrong. And if you think Oda pulled that out of his ass, shame on you. And remember, Luffy was always looking for a musician, and Brooke was it. I think Oda plans well ahead.
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
October 09 2010 03:30 GMT
#1271
On October 09 2010 12:22 Souma wrote:
You can choose not to believe in Oda, that's your right. But seriously, it's Oda. I just can't reiterate that fact enough. Either way, we'll see. I would like Luffy to have more than 10 crew mates, seeing as how the manga is only halfway done, but I believe in Oda.

Show nested quote +
Obviously you don't know how manga is written. The most anyone would ever plan out in a serialized shounen is the next story arc. Oda simply plucked an old character design from an old flashback and used it to craft the character Rayleigh. Oda never imagined back then that One Piece would expand to the scale it has.


I say the whole Laboon/Brooke thing proves you wrong. And if you think Oda pulled that out of his ass, shame on you. And remember, Luffy was always looking for a musician, and Brooke was it. I think Oda plans well ahead.

Where did Oda say there would be 10 crew members. Like I said earlier, Luffy is not Oda. Luffy wanted to make zombie tree in Thriller Bark (along with alot of other shit) Nakama as well, so IMO Luffy isn't a good source to base your predictions on.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
proxY_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1561 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-09 03:34:41
October 09 2010 03:32 GMT
#1272
On October 09 2010 12:20 LunarC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 12:15 proxY_ wrote:
On October 09 2010 12:04 Sentenal wrote:
I don't see why everyone thinks the size of his crew that he wanted at the very beginning is a number set in stone, and that he HAS to have that many people; no more or no less.


We've seen that Oda has planned the major events in the manga out from the very beginning. Rayleigh is in chapter 19 and hes introduced formally like 481 chapters later, that's insane. I'm sure that Oda had every major event in the story fully mapped out before the series began, including who all the crew members were.

Obviously you don't know how manga is written. The most anyone would ever plan out in a serialized shounen is the next story arc. Oda simply plucked an old character design from an old flashback and used it to craft the character Rayleigh. Oda never imagined back then that One Piece would expand to the scale it has.


Are you serious? Do you even read the manga and see all the references to past chapters that come in. Do you really think Oda just seemlessly worked it in on the fly? Oda is on record saying that Brooke was already conceptualized during the laboon arc, why would he lie about that? Look at how he manages his characters, Garp is introduced in a cover story with Coby a few hundred chapters before they become relevant, Dragon is introduced far before hes relevant and there are dozens of other examples in the story. One Piece is so popular because the story is clearly outlined and it flows consistently. Sure Oda doesn't know exactly how long every arc will take and exactly what every chapter will consist of but he clearly has an outline of everything major in his head. Why is it so hard to believe that Oda has probably the equivalent of 3 or 4 pages of bulleted points in his head about characters and where the story is going?

I'm sorry that you read too much Bleach where Kubo is obviously making it up as he goes along but it definitely doesn't have to be that way.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
October 09 2010 03:34 GMT
#1273
I see what you're saying. So you don't think Oda was foreshadowing. Like I said, we'll see, because either way I'm sure Oda will plan for the best.
Writer
ccdnl
Profile Joined April 2010
United States611 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-09 04:37:20
October 09 2010 04:27 GMT
#1274
On October 09 2010 10:17 joheinous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 08:34 ccdnl wrote:
On October 09 2010 07:27 orgolove wrote:
On October 08 2010 21:45 Ozarugold wrote:
Whatever happened to that Mermaid girl? I remember there was a huge fuss whether or not she'd join. And personally I'd like it if that barkeep-lady joined but she doesn't really fit the "strawhat type". Also I don't think any one will join in this arc. I mean everyone just got a power boost so...


Hm yeah. What happened to the mermaid?


Am I the only one who preferred Nami's old hairstyle over her new one? > Nami's and Franky's new look = fail.

Yeah old nami> new nami. Maybe we'll grow into her new look but as of now, old nami > new. I'm fine with franky. He always had the crazy design, and his new design fits the mold--crazy.


srsly? I almost got a boner when I saw Nami after the time skip and she's DRAWN ON A PIECE OF PAPER IN BLACK AND WHITE. She and Robin look so good :D


ahahhaahahah. kudos to you. yeah nami aint just working for me with the long hair. and totally agree about robin. robin looks gud regardless. if i see a chick cosplay as her i'd fucking ask her out right on the spot.


On October 09 2010 12:32 proxY_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 12:20 LunarC wrote:
On October 09 2010 12:15 proxY_ wrote:
On October 09 2010 12:04 Sentenal wrote:
I don't see why everyone thinks the size of his crew that he wanted at the very beginning is a number set in stone, and that he HAS to have that many people; no more or no less.


We've seen that Oda has planned the major events in the manga out from the very beginning. Rayleigh is in chapter 19 and hes introduced formally like 481 chapters later, that's insane. I'm sure that Oda had every major event in the story fully mapped out before the series began, including who all the crew members were.

Obviously you don't know how manga is written. The most anyone would ever plan out in a serialized shounen is the next story arc. Oda simply plucked an old character design from an old flashback and used it to craft the character Rayleigh. Oda never imagined back then that One Piece would expand to the scale it has.


Are you serious? Do you even read the manga and see all the references to past chapters that come in. Do you really think Oda just seemlessly worked it in on the fly? Oda is on record saying that Brooke was already conceptualized during the laboon arc, why would he lie about that? Look at how he manages his characters, Garp is introduced in a cover story with Coby a few hundred chapters before they become relevant, Dragon is introduced far before hes relevant and there are dozens of other examples in the story. One Piece is so popular because the story is clearly outlined and it flows consistently. Sure Oda doesn't know exactly how long every arc will take and exactly what every chapter will consist of but he clearly has an outline of everything major in his head. Why is it so hard to believe that Oda has probably the equivalent of 3 or 4 pages of bulleted points in his head about characters and where the story is going?

I'm sorry that you read too much Bleach where Kubo is obviously making it up as he goes along but it definitely doesn't have to be that way.


I would have to agree with Proxy here [strikeout]Souma[/strikeout] LunarC, Oda doesn't just plan one arc ahead. I know some other mangas might mislead you into thinking this but Oda does really have the whole scheme thought out. Many many examples pointed out by Proxy and we give Props to Oda for a reason.
civil cervixes || Kang Min Fan || I like TLO, TLO= German, I like Germans..?
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
October 09 2010 04:34 GMT
#1275
I would have to agree with Proxy here Souma, Oda doesn't just plan one arc ahead. I know some other mangas might mislead you into thinking this but Oda does really have the whole scheme thought out. Many many examples pointed out by Proxy and we give Props to Oda for a reason.


You're talking to the wrong person. I agreed with that.

And for the record, I think Nami is still incredibly hott.
Writer
ccdnl
Profile Joined April 2010
United States611 Posts
October 09 2010 04:36 GMT
#1276
On October 09 2010 13:34 Souma wrote:
Show nested quote +
I would have to agree with Proxy here Souma, Oda doesn't just plan one arc ahead. I know some other mangas might mislead you into thinking this but Oda does really have the whole scheme thought out. Many many examples pointed out by Proxy and we give Props to Oda for a reason.


You're talking to the wrong person. I agreed with that.

And for the record, I think Nami is still incredibly hott.

Terribly sorry Souma, I mixed you up for LunarC. My apologies.
civil cervixes || Kang Min Fan || I like TLO, TLO= German, I like Germans..?
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
October 09 2010 04:40 GMT
#1277
I forgive you since you are on our side. Death to the unbelievers!
Writer
ccdnl
Profile Joined April 2010
United States611 Posts
October 09 2010 04:50 GMT
#1278
So lets stop this discussion on the next crew mate. We can only speculate for so long until someone gets bored [me].
favorite arcs anyone? doesn't necessarily have to pertain to the manga. I personally love the "marine stronghold filler" right after Sky arc in the Anime. God I just LOOVEEE how Luffy fucks around in the beginning.
Poll: Favorite Arc /drool

[B.W.S]Arabasta Arc (19)
 
49%

[E.B.S]Arlong Arc (11)
 
28%

[E.B.S]Loguetown Arc (3)
 
8%

[E.B.S]Baratie Arc (2)
 
5%

[E.B.S]Buggy the Clown Arc (1)
 
3%

[B.W.S]Laboon Arc (1)
 
3%

[B.W.S]Drum Island Arc (1)
 
3%

[S.S]Jaya Arc (1)
 
3%

[E.B.S]Captain Morgan Arc (0)
 
0%

[E.B.S]Captain Kuro Arc (0)
 
0%

[B.W.S]Whiskey Peak Arc (0)
 
0%

[B.W.S]Little Garden Arc (0)
 
0%

39 total votes

Your vote: Favorite Arc /drool

(Vote): [E.B.S]Captain Morgan Arc
(Vote): [E.B.S]Buggy the Clown Arc
(Vote): [E.B.S]Captain Kuro Arc
(Vote): [E.B.S]Baratie Arc
(Vote): [E.B.S]Arlong Arc
(Vote): [E.B.S]Loguetown Arc
(Vote): [B.W.S]Laboon Arc
(Vote): [B.W.S]Whiskey Peak Arc
(Vote): [B.W.S]Little Garden Arc
(Vote): [B.W.S]Drum Island Arc
(Vote): [B.W.S]Arabasta Arc
(Vote): [S.S]Jaya Arc


Poll: Favorite Arc /drool[2]

[CP9 S.]Enies Lobby Arc (19)
 
48%

[W.W.S]Impel Down Arc (9)
 
23%

[W.W.S]Marineford Arc (3)
 
8%

[S.S]Skypiea Arc (2)
 
5%

[W.W.S]Sabaody Archipelago Arc (2)
 
5%

[CP9 S.]Water 7 Arc (1)
 
3%

[CP9 S.]Post-Enies Lobby Arc (1)
 
3%

[W.W.S]Thriller Bark Arc (1)
 
3%

[W.W.S]Amazon LIlly Arc (1)
 
3%

[N.W.S]Straw Hats Return Arc (1)
 
3%

[CP9 S.]Davy Back Arc (0)
 
0%

[W.W.S]Post-War Arc (0)
 
0%

40 total votes

Your vote: Favorite Arc /drool[2]

(Vote): [S.S]Skypiea Arc
(Vote): [CP9 S.]Davy Back Arc
(Vote): [CP9 S.]Water 7 Arc
(Vote): [CP9 S.]Enies Lobby Arc
(Vote): [CP9 S.]Post-Enies Lobby Arc
(Vote): [W.W.S]Thriller Bark Arc
(Vote): [W.W.S]Sabaody Archipelago Arc
(Vote): [W.W.S]Amazon LIlly Arc
(Vote): [W.W.S]Impel Down Arc
(Vote): [W.W.S]Marineford Arc
(Vote): [W.W.S]Post-War Arc
(Vote): [N.W.S]Straw Hats Return Arc


Names are always open to translation so may vary but I used the names from http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Story_Arcs

And the parenthesis is the "saga" of the arc.
EBS=East Blue Saga
BW=Baroque Works
SS=Skypiea
CP9=Nazi Uprising
WW=Whitebeard War
NW=New World

civil cervixes || Kang Min Fan || I like TLO, TLO= German, I like Germans..?
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
October 09 2010 07:42 GMT
#1279
Drum because I loved Hiruruku's story and Impel because of Bon Clay.
Stuck.
Smokin_Squirrel
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Korea (South)674 Posts
October 09 2010 07:51 GMT
#1280
I gotta say Arabasta was just so epic because Luffy was finally going up against a real shichibukai. Plus that was when I was watching the anime rather than the manga so the epic music had chills running down my spine (Dvorak 9 anyone?).

I was also pleasantly surprised with the Impel Down Arc. I'll admit it was initially boring what with Mr.3 and Buggy because I just don't care about their characters but once it got to Luffy getting serious with Magellan I was hooked. Also the epic Blackbeard appearance :3

Skypiea was absolutely a pain to go through. I literally forced myself to stay awake trying to watch the anime.

I'm also willing to bet that people will rage at this but I really did not care for the Enies Lobby Arc. Guaranteed it is about one of my top 3 SH characters, Robin but the events leading up to the actual fight between SH and the CP9 were boring and felt like filler.
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