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That seems most accurate, imo. It's not really worth comparing them though. Don't give Sanji a hard time because, like Smoker, he gets retardedly difficult match ups. Vergo was Punk Hazard's real boss (I think we agree that Caesar < Vergo). He was doing somewhat all right against DD before he got pulled into that string shit (which we don't know how to counteract yet).
On January 20 2014 08:15 Mensol wrote: amaDeus it was pre-timeskip. Franky got much stronger that he can even fire beam. His armor is unbeliveably strong.
On January 20 2014 08:15 Mensol wrote: amaDeus it was pre-timeskip. Franky got much stronger that he can even fire beam. His armor is unbeliveably strong.
On January 20 2014 08:15 Mensol wrote: amaDeus it was pre-timeskip. Franky got much stronger that he can even fire beam. His armor is unbeliveably strong.
On January 20 2014 08:15 Mensol wrote: amaDeus it was pre-timeskip. Franky got much stronger that he can even fire beam. His armor is unbeliveably strong.
On January 20 2014 08:15 Mensol wrote: amaDeus it was pre-timeskip. Franky got much stronger that he can even fire beam. His armor is unbeliveably strong.
On January 20 2014 08:15 Mensol wrote: amaDeus it was pre-timeskip. Franky got much stronger that he can even fire beam. His armor is unbeliveably strong.
On January 20 2014 08:15 Mensol wrote: amaDeus it was pre-timeskip. Franky got much stronger that he can even fire beam. His armor is unbeliveably strong.
On January 20 2014 08:15 Mensol wrote: amaDeus it was pre-timeskip. Franky got much stronger that he can even fire beam. His armor is unbeliveably strong.
Oda knew that Franky is overpowered and refused to give him haki for now.
On January 20 2014 08:58 amaDeus wrote:
On January 20 2014 08:15 Mensol wrote: amaDeus it was pre-timeskip. Franky got much stronger that he can even fire beam. His armor is unbeliveably strong.
Franky just has not needed haki yet. He is a master engineer in a world where weapons actually still matter. Remember that Pluton, the legendary ancient weapon was "just" a battleship. Guess who is pretty good at building battleships?
Then again, I don't watch previews, trailers, teasers and anything similar that might spoil something for me (unless I already know what'll happen, as would be case of the season 4 teaser of Game of Thrones for example). Most movie trailers spoil the film, interestingly.
On January 20 2014 09:17 Mataza wrote: Franky just has not needed haki yet. He is a master engineer in a world where weapons actually still matter. Remember that Pluton, the legendary ancient weapon was "just" a battleship. Guess who is pretty good at building battleships?
I'm already enjoying this. Also Franky rocks.
He probably found sea stone at vegapunk's place and made bullets from them. im pretty sure he has a method to fight with logia.
Also Franky confirmed for 3rd ancient weapon. 1- Shirahoshi 2- Enel 3- Franky
On January 20 2014 09:17 Mataza wrote: Franky just has not needed haki yet. He is a master engineer in a world where weapons actually still matter. Remember that Pluton, the legendary ancient weapon was "just" a battleship. Guess who is pretty good at building battleships?
I'm already enjoying this. Also Franky rocks.
He probably found sea stone at vegapunk's place and made bullets from them. im pretty sure he has a method to fight with logia.
Also Franky confirmed for 3rd ancient weapon. 1- Shirahoshi 2- Enel 3- Franky
On January 20 2014 09:17 Mataza wrote: Franky just has not needed haki yet. He is a master engineer in a world where weapons actually still matter. Remember that Pluton, the legendary ancient weapon was "just" a battleship. Guess who is pretty good at building battleships?
I'm already enjoying this. Also Franky rocks.
He probably found sea stone at vegapunk's place and made bullets from them. im pretty sure he has a method to fight with logia.
Also Franky confirmed for 3rd ancient weapon. 1- Shirahoshi 2- Enel 3- Franky
I think you mean 1- Enel 2- Shirahoshi 3-Franky
oh right, we saw Enel earlier than Shirahoshi. The strongest character we've ever seen~
Sanji excels at being quick and flexible. He might not have the sheer power of a franky beam but he can fly across long distances and land a hundred kicks in a split second. Sanji has always been a sort of support character, going off and doing his own thing. Out of all the strawhats he is the most intelligent when it comes to warfare. His closing the gates at Enies Lobby and infiltrating of crocodile's casino are indicative of his ability to think ahead and work under pressure. Whereas characters like Luffy, Zoro and Franky can obliterate anything, they don't quite have the mental fortitude to do anything beyond that.
On January 20 2014 10:26 Hyperbola wrote: Sanji excels at being quick and flexible. He might not have the sheer power of a franky beam but he can fly across long distances and land a hundred kicks in a split second. Sanji has always been a sort of support character, going off and doing his own thing. Out of all the strawhats he is the most intelligent when it comes to warfare. His closing the gates at Enies Lobby and infiltrating of crocodile's casino are indicative of his ability to think ahead and work under pressure. Whereas characters like Luffy, Zoro and Franky can obliterate anything, they don't quite have the mental fortitude to do anything beyond that.
This!
Oda showed that plenty of times and most recently. Sanji got owned by anyone he met in the last two arc while monster trio (Luffy, Zoro&Franky) destroyed everyone.
Shogun Franky is unbeliveable. Franky is improved tremendously in the last two years, Luffy, Zoro and Franky are most improved crew members in the last two years w/o doubt.
I don't want to get into it about Sanji vs Franky (since its a rather silly argument), but I think at the very least Franky is now strong enough for it to be considered the "Monster Quartet". General Franky is powerful enough to be a god or a devil.