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On January 20 2014 23:36 17Sphynx17 wrote:
Well, with regards to Garp and Rayleigh, from their prime, did the canon mention they have suffered power loss/degradation from ageing? I can't remember if Rayleigh mentioned his in the Saboady Arc when he helped Luffy get away from Kizaru?
Also, I just wondered, did Rayleigh's bounty end up being cancelled since he "retired"? I mean, since he was Roger's right hand man, he would surely have had a bounty on his head like the Vice Captain's of prominent crews. Or did Rayleigh serve time when Roger was captured? That part I don't have any memory reading any background of in the manga or managing to come across in the anime.
Anyway, I still think Garp can go toe to toe with Kizaru. Rayleigh did it and managed to push him back to help Luffy and apparently even managed to get away from some "that fast".
Rayleigh said that he, and the rest of the crew were never captured, and Roger gave himself up. So Rayleigh never spent any time in jail. And his bounty is technically still active, though the marine doesn't usually try to capture him, since he's massively powerful, but doesn't cause much trouble, so it wouldn't be worth it to expend that much manpower.
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On January 20 2014 23:36 17Sphynx17 wrote:
Well, with regards to Garp and Rayleigh, from their prime, did the canon mention they have suffered power loss/degradation from ageing? I can't remember if Rayleigh mentioned his in the Saboady Arc when he helped Luffy get away from Kizaru?
Also, I just wondered, did Rayleigh's bounty end up being cancelled since he "retired"? I mean, since he was Roger's right hand man, he would surely have had a bounty on his head like the Vice Captain's of prominent crews. Or did Rayleigh serve time when Roger was captured? That part I don't have any memory reading any background of in the manga or managing to come across in the anime.
Anyway, I still think Garp can go toe to toe with Kizaru. Rayleigh did it and managed to push him back to help Luffy and apparently even managed to get away from some "that fast".
Garp says he has "lost power lately" before throwing the canonballs to the Sunny at the end of the water seven arc.
As far as Rayleigh's bounty, it still exists, he mentionned its existence and his desire to have it tore up when facing Kizaru.
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Didn't Garp say that they shouldn't tell anyone about finding Rayliegh before the Whitebeard War becuase the Marines "couldn't fight 2 legends at the same time" or something? Seems they just don't want to invest in capturing him.
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On January 21 2014 00:55 Serejai wrote:I agree that Garp would destroy Akainu, but I think Enel would destroy Garp. I mean, Garp is fast and strong... but Enel is Enel. My rankings would be; Gol D Roger
Go D Enel
Edwar D. Newgate
Monkey D Garp
Clown D. Buggy
Fixed that for you.
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On January 21 2014 02:50 Lylat wrote:
What about San D Ji ?
One level below of Cutty D. Flam
Monkey D-D. Ragon - double D.
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This isn't Django. D's in One Piece are not silent.
There is little doubt though that Garp was stronger than the admirals before the timeskip(and maybe still after it), including Akainu.
Remember the amazing and unstoppable Marco D. Phoenix discussion? Kizaru, Aokiji and Akainu couldn't graze him. Then Garp punched him out of the air. A punch so hard, the Marco discussion was blown right out of this thread and never appeared again.
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"I dont wanna be a hero!"
"Do you know what a hero is?!"
"Say there is a piece of meat"
"Pirates will make a banquet and eat it."
"Heroes will share it with other people"
"I WANT ALL THE MEAT!"
- Never change, Luffy.
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On January 20 2014 23:36 17Sphynx17 wrote:
Well, with regards to Garp and Rayleigh, from their prime, did the canon mention they have suffered power loss/degradation from ageing? I can't remember if Rayleigh mentioned his in the Saboady Arc when he helped Luffy get away from Kizaru?
Also, I just wondered, did Rayleigh's bounty end up being cancelled since he "retired"? I mean, since he was Roger's right hand man, he would surely have had a bounty on his head like the Vice Captain's of prominent crews. Or did Rayleigh serve time when Roger was captured? That part I don't have any memory reading any background of in the manga or managing to come across in the anime.
Anyway, I still think Garp can go toe to toe with Kizaru. Rayleigh did it and managed to push him back to help Luffy and apparently even managed to get away from some "that fast".
Both Brogy and Dorry's bounties were still active 100 years after they started their duel and faded into history. No way Rayleigh's bounty would go away from retiring.
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On January 21 2014 07:42 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2014 23:36 17Sphynx17 wrote:
Well, with regards to Garp and Rayleigh, from their prime, did the canon mention they have suffered power loss/degradation from ageing? I can't remember if Rayleigh mentioned his in the Saboady Arc when he helped Luffy get away from Kizaru?
Also, I just wondered, did Rayleigh's bounty end up being cancelled since he "retired"? I mean, since he was Roger's right hand man, he would surely have had a bounty on his head like the Vice Captain's of prominent crews. Or did Rayleigh serve time when Roger was captured? That part I don't have any memory reading any background of in the manga or managing to come across in the anime.
Anyway, I still think Garp can go toe to toe with Kizaru. Rayleigh did it and managed to push him back to help Luffy and apparently even managed to get away from some "that fast". Both Brogy and Dorry's bounties were still active 100 years after they started their duel and faded into history. No way Rayleigh's bounty would go away from retiring.
especially since the marines killed everyone relted at all to Gol D Roger and his ship
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Did they say they got a bunch of them? I don't remember but the Strawhats sure have met plenty of people along the way who were a part of Roger's crew.
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Plenty is a bit exaggerated, they've only met Buffy, Rayleigh and Crocus
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Aces mother also evaded capture, purely because she was unknown to them and cemented her yoohoo. Theres been no mention of anyone else related to roger being caught / hunted by the marines, it was just stated that they did.
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On January 21 2014 16:39 AsnSensation wrote:
Plenty is a bit exaggerated, they've only met Buffy, Rayleigh and Crocus
buggy and shanks to
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On January 21 2014 16:39 AsnSensation wrote:
Plenty is a bit exaggerated, they've only met Buffy, Rayleigh and Crocus
Who the heck is Buffy lol
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Considering F is right next to G in the keyboard, I'd say thats a certain clown lol
Either that or a vampire hunter.
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^Buffy the vampire slayer of course haha. Sorry was typing in rush before I went to university haha of course it's Buggy.
And I didn't mention Shanks because they haven't met him yet.
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On January 21 2014 22:55 AsnSensation wrote:
^Buffy the vampire slayer of course haha. Sorry was typing in rush before I went to university haha of course it's Buggy.
And I didn't mention Shanks because they haven't met him yet.
Bitte?
Luffy met Shanks, twice even. Once before Luffy became a pirate and once during the Marineford War.
Before anyone says "It was only Luffy, it doesn't count" keep in mind that most of the Strawhats never met Buggy or Crocus either.
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1.. Luffy didn't meet Shanks during the war.
2. Slaughter said "along the way" so I only counted the actual journey as Strawhat Pirates not anything before Luffy set out to sail.
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