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GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
January 20 2014 06:41 GMT
#12581
On January 20 2014 13:17 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 11:15 Mataza wrote:
Sanji confirmed for support character, Franky now part of monster trio.

Man, we ARE smarter than Oda.

once Sanji sinks Big mams ship people will change there tune


So much of this, Sanji will redeem himself for losing two straight battles.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
January 20 2014 06:56 GMT
#12582
On January 20 2014 15:41 GettingIt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 13:17 Forikorder wrote:
On January 20 2014 11:15 Mataza wrote:
Sanji confirmed for support character, Franky now part of monster trio.

Man, we ARE smarter than Oda.

once Sanji sinks Big mams ship people will change there tune


So much of this, Sanji will redeem himself for losing two straight battles.


Not like he lost any respect losing to Vergo and Dolfa. He couldn't fight any bigger names unless it's a Yonkou themselves.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 07:06:22
January 20 2014 07:06 GMT
#12583
Vergo was even more of a chump than awake side of Cavendish.

All Vergo accomplished was show that Law is better than Sanji(and Smoker, if I remember correctly). He was literally introduced a couple dozen chapters before he was killed.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
January 20 2014 07:31 GMT
#12584
Sanji vs Franky is almost as annoying as an Enel discussion.
maru lover forever
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
January 20 2014 08:00 GMT
#12585
But I thought everyone agreed that Enel is garbage ? :-(
Elerris
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia137 Posts
January 20 2014 10:23 GMT
#12586
So I'm standing in the shower having my usual One Piece discussion in my own head, which brought me to the topic of Garp. How strong can he really be? I mean how would he deal with a proficient sword user who is good with Haki, or a DF user like Kizaru who could just blink away and shoot lazer beams at him all day? The only way I can see Garp fighting is Vergo style where is just fully coats himself in Haki and fights like the hulk, but even with that any fast opponent of swordsman would wreck his day.

What are everyone elses thoughts on Garp's fighting style/strength?
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 10:31:12
January 20 2014 10:28 GMT
#12587
Well he is known as "Garp the Fist" I believe so I would imagine hes very much a Monsterous strength + Haki combination. He should be one of the strongest in the verse so his Haki I would imagine (given he would rely on H2H) is pretty fucking monstrous.

He shouldn't be lacking on speed so with a Body covered in Haki of his level he should be just fine vs Swordsmen.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
January 20 2014 10:33 GMT
#12588
Well if Roger was supposed to be strong you would have to say that the guy who cornered him a few times and was his marine rival would be at least close to that. No one knows how strong Roger was individually though, still there is a reason why he is a hero of the navy.
Never Knows Best.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
January 20 2014 12:22 GMT
#12589
And it's likely Garp was much stronger during his prime too. This is the guy who's acting cannon on his own ship (remember him throwing the cannon balls instead of having the crew shoot them?). He and Sengoku was the last line of defense for those coming up to rescue Ace during the marineford war, and if it had been anyone else than Luffy who had come up, Ace wouldn't have been saved. Garp just didn't have the heart to strike his own grandson down. He didn't really "lose" as people were surprised about, and Sengoku knew that fact.
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 12:51:55
January 20 2014 12:49 GMT
#12590
The guy launches fucking cannon balls at a rate of like 5 per second faster then a cannon fires them (as in movement speed not firing rate). For fun. I'd say that was a fraction of garp's power and still extremely powerful and fast, prior to using haki.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 20 2014 12:57 GMT
#12591
He also, for fun, smashed down a few mountains with his fist to prepare for Don Chinjao xD
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
January 20 2014 13:05 GMT
#12592
We know how much of a beast Garp is rumored to be. In my head his physical strength + haki is so great that he can just smash haki-infused swords with his bare hands.
And as for Kizaru fighting like a blink stalker, I think it's really hard for anyone to fight against that.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
January 20 2014 13:11 GMT
#12593
Kizaru is weird at times. Sometimes he just moves fast other times he spent time to make a mirror thing first in his hands to move.
Never Knows Best.
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
January 20 2014 13:50 GMT
#12594
On January 20 2014 22:11 Slaughter wrote:
Kizaru is weird at times. Sometimes he just moves fast other times he spent time to make a mirror thing first in his hands to move.


He would be really overpowered if he could always move at lightspeed though. I like that it has a 'cast time'.
17Sphynx17
Profile Joined September 2011
580 Posts
January 20 2014 14:36 GMT
#12595
Well, with regards to Garp and Rayleigh, from their prime, did the canon mention they have suffered power loss/degradation from ageing? I can't remember if Rayleigh mentioned his in the Saboady Arc when he helped Luffy get away from Kizaru?

Also, I just wondered, did Rayleigh's bounty end up being cancelled since he "retired"? I mean, since he was Roger's right hand man, he would surely have had a bounty on his head like the Vice Captain's of prominent crews. Or did Rayleigh serve time when Roger was captured? That part I don't have any memory reading any background of in the manga or managing to come across in the anime.

Anyway, I still think Garp can go toe to toe with Kizaru. Rayleigh did it and managed to push him back to help Luffy and apparently even managed to get away from some "that fast".
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
January 20 2014 14:41 GMT
#12596
Garp was going to beat Akainu but Sengoku stopped him.

uh also Sanji not going to shit against big mom's ship.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
January 20 2014 14:58 GMT
#12597
On January 20 2014 23:41 Mensol wrote:
Garp was going to beat Akainu but Sengoku stopped him.

Yeah. Garp would probably have seriously injured Akainu if Sengoku did not stop him, or was late in stopping him. I can't imagine what an enraged Garp would be capable of, considering what an enraged and near-death Whitebeard did.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 20 2014 15:37 GMT
#12598
On January 20 2014 22:11 Slaughter wrote:
Kizaru is weird at times. Sometimes he just moves fast other times he spent time to make a mirror thing first in his hands to move.

his light speed is probably too much for him to handle so he has to make a "road" first and only travel on it
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
January 20 2014 15:55 GMT
#12599
I agree that Garp would destroy Akainu, but I think Enel would destroy Garp. I mean, Garp is fast and strong... but Enel is Enel.

My rankings would be;

    Gol D Roger
    Go D Enel
    Whitebeard
    Garp
    Rayleigh
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18424 Posts
January 20 2014 16:33 GMT
#12600
On January 20 2014 23:36 17Sphynx17 wrote:
Well, with regards to Garp and Rayleigh, from their prime, did the canon mention they have suffered power loss/degradation from ageing? I can't remember if Rayleigh mentioned his in the Saboady Arc when he helped Luffy get away from Kizaru?

Also, I just wondered, did Rayleigh's bounty end up being cancelled since he "retired"? I mean, since he was Roger's right hand man, he would surely have had a bounty on his head like the Vice Captain's of prominent crews. Or did Rayleigh serve time when Roger was captured? That part I don't have any memory reading any background of in the manga or managing to come across in the anime.

Anyway, I still think Garp can go toe to toe with Kizaru. Rayleigh did it and managed to push him back to help Luffy and apparently even managed to get away from some "that fast".


Rayleigh is probably too strong for the marines to bother to capture him
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