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On September 22 2023 05:55 Hyperbola wrote:
New chapter just dropped actually!
First it was Doffy and now it's Kizaru. Looks like every other Devil Fruit power allows you to make shadow clones of yourself. Kizaru's fruit was OP without this but hot damn now it's just absurd. What's next, will he be able to suck all the light out of an area and turn everyone blind?
If Kizaru and bonney interact is it going to bend space-time curvature? Can their fruits combined trigger a black-hole??
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On September 22 2023 10:38 cLutZ wrote:
My guess is Greenbull was part of a WG county's army, and Fuji was mayor of a small town where he also ran an orphanage.
Ya I'm on the train of thought they got like drafted or convinced to join the Marines after the events of the Marineford.
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On September 23 2023 09:07 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2023 10:38 cLutZ wrote:
My guess is Greenbull was part of a WG county's army, and Fuji was mayor of a small town where he also ran an orphanage. Ya I'm on the train of thought they got like drafted or convinced to join the Marines after the events of the Marineford.
I think its mentioned that they did get drafted, either after Marineford or after Akainu vs Aokiji
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If it wasn't the end of the arc and such a major battle, I think I would've taken a few months off, the breaks are getting brutal.
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Holy actual fuck I need to know what that fruit is very badly
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Looks like some sort of side boss from Inuyasha
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Ushi Oni most likely:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ushi-oni
Anyone else getting tired of how Oda nerfs Luffy by making him run out of stamina in his new forms? I get why he does it since otherwise he'd just stomp everyone, but it's really pathetic how he can only fight for 5 minutes and is then essentially knocked out. This was a minor plot point in Water 7 when he first used Gear 3 and then shrank afterwards, but now it's a major plot point in every fight (Doflamingo, Katakuri, Kaido, Lucci). All you really need to do to beat Luffy nowadays is just dodge his attacks for a few minutes and then one-shot him once he runs out of energy.
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On October 05 2023 14:36 Zambrah wrote:
Holy actual fuck I need to know what that fruit is very badly
somehow I kind of think this won't be a devil fruit?
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How would the Zoro vs Lucci fight matter when we have a literal based god in the game now? Seems a strange narrative decision.
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Lucci fight doesnt matter. Hes weaker than first mate of the strawhats
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On October 05 2023 23:45 CHEONSOYUN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2023 14:36 Zambrah wrote:
Holy actual fuck I need to know what that fruit is very badly somehow I kind of think this won't be a devil fruit?
If its not then Magic is probably officially on the table for One Piece
It probably is a DF though, Imu probably has the fuckin Satan Satan no Mi and the Gorosei all have demon/demon-adjacent DFs. Ive seen speculation on things like Baku and Tengu as other Gorosei-Mythical Zoans
I do have to say though, I dislike this kinda firm stratification we're seeing on DF tiers. Mythical Zoan seems to just kinda be The Best fruits. Gorosei have em, Imu (if they have a DF) probably has one, protagonist has one, Kaido had one, Yamato had one.
Feeling like a combat oriented Mythical Zoan is just sorta the best a fruit can get, which Im not a fan of.
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Blackbeard clearly thinks the other classes have lots of value
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Eh, Mythical Zoan are all flash, tbh. Besides Marco's healing and the Vampire fruit's immorality (non-canon) Mythical Zoan haven't really done all that much. Sengoku's Buddah Palm is something Garp and Koby can do with their fists. Kaido can fly and shoot AOE to wipe out fodder but any logia can do that, and he resorts to his club against serous opponents anyway. Yamato can make an ice armor that can really only survive one attack. Besides that she's a normal wolf. Orochi survived a beheading but only succeeded in being a threat to defenseless prostitutes. The nine tails fruit is just Mr. 2's fruit but a little better. We've yet to see Saturn or Imu's power but I doubt it'll be anything seriously OP.
Then of course there's Luffy. His power seems fun but how effective is it really? Ultimately, it's his Haki which defeats his opponents, IMO. He can make his fist bigger but so could Katakuri. He is super mobile but so is everyone else in the top 20. Honestly, this fruit is just Oda's excuse/retcon to draw "funny" cartoon fights.
Mythical Zoan are just flavour on regular Zoan. They're really nothing compared to a good Paramecia and are completely outclassed by the better Logia. The lava fruit, for example, is able to slice open Whitebeard's and Kuma's face with a simple attack that doesn't even look like it uses any Haki. The light fruit gives you insane mobility and let Kizaru run circles around Luffy while barely breaking a sweat. And also keep in mind that even with the shittiest with Logia you are immune to all normal damage, which makes pathetic characters like Caribou a force to be reckoned with.
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Normal logias are Noob stompers. But the high tier ones all have special utility.
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I mean Haki is the most powerful factor in whether or not someone is well, truly powerful, Roger was King of the Pirates and matched Whitebeard Devil Fruit-less after all, so its not like devil fruits are the true source of any of the strongest character's true power (except Luffy, I'd argue Luffy is notably less threatening without being able to become a cartoon god man)
But if we're looking at giving people a Devil Fruit to make a Haki Master stronger it seems like Mythical Zoans the best, you get Paramecia powers and all the benefits of a Zoan fruit. Its basically a two-in-one. Logias in the Haki Master world we're in just don't hold up, frankly Id argue they might be the weakest category of devil fruit if we lump Mythical Zoans in with normal Zoans. The best paramecias and the best mythical zoans outshine the best logias. Maybe if the Yami Yami no Mi really shows up I'll change my mind, but so far I'd say if you gave Kaido the Glint Glint fruit and had him fight another Kaido with the Uo Uo no Mi I think Dragon Kaido beats Light Kaido.
Also I think Saturn's fruit's power is the magic circle bullshit he came in on, its that or its the Head Bursting that happened to the Marine? I think the magic circle thing is probably the power and the head exploding was possibly an application of Conqueror's Haki.
EDIT: Side note, Zoro with the Yamato no Orochi fruit? Busted.
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I think that notion is clouded by the fact that we haven't seen much logia action in the current time where the power scaling has leveled up substantially. Kizaru is doing really well tbh and there is no reason to think a logia with very strong Haki wouldn't be just as broken. Hell what about an awakened Logia?
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nah some logias are only "weak" because theyve been nerfed. the top logias should be absolutely op. kizarus fruit has already been discussed and it was simply odas creative choice to take it in a direction that is less destructive, because the alternative would be that its just so busted literally nothing could compete.
also with fruits like aokijis theres more potential for busted power. see marvels iceman and what hes capable of doing. in the end its just down to how oda wants to manage their powers
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Also Gura gura is so strong Blackbeard decided to get that as his paramecia fruit.
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