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On September 09 2022 23:09 cLutZ wrote: Oh no. Using your op devil fruit. Its not like we have a Yonko that win a whole way that way. Huh? Who exactly are you referring to? All of the real current/former Yonko have martial powers that match their fruits.
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On September 10 2022 02:32 sharkie wrote: If BB says he will be turned into stone if let go does this mean Boa's abilities ignore Haki? That would be crazy imba Its still subject to a certain sort of willpower as shown by Luffy and that vice admiral.
BB is just a perv who can't control himself in that respect.
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On September 10 2022 03:08 Hyperbola wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2022 23:09 cLutZ wrote: Oh no. Using your op devil fruit. Its not like we have a Yonko that win a whole way that way. Huh? Who exactly are you referring to? All of the real current/former Yonko have martial powers that match their fruits.
I think he is talking about BB who kinda gets dumpstered a lot (esp pre his double DFs).
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On September 10 2022 04:28 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2022 03:08 Hyperbola wrote:On September 09 2022 23:09 cLutZ wrote: Oh no. Using your op devil fruit. Its not like we have a Yonko that win a whole way that way. Huh? Who exactly are you referring to? All of the real current/former Yonko have martial powers that match their fruits. I think he is talking about BB who kinda gets dumpstered a lot (esp pre his double DFs). I see. I wouldn't underestimate Blackbeard since he did manage to give shanks his scar before he even got his first Devil Fruit. Also, keep in mind, this is when Shanks was already an adult and not some no-name apprentice. BB also fought Ace at a severe disadvantage and won. Ultimately, the only people that managed to "dumpster" on him are Sengoku, Whitebeard, and Magellan, and these are some of the strongest characters in the series.
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Magellan only hangs out at the prison since his fruit is actually crazy overpowered. If he was in Marineford during the war and whirled some red goo around, things would have been way too easy for the marines.
Nobody knows how strong Blackbeard is right now, characters tend to have grown during the timeskip.
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On September 10 2022 04:42 Hyperbola wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2022 04:28 Slaughter wrote:On September 10 2022 03:08 Hyperbola wrote:On September 09 2022 23:09 cLutZ wrote: Oh no. Using your op devil fruit. Its not like we have a Yonko that win a whole way that way. Huh? Who exactly are you referring to? All of the real current/former Yonko have martial powers that match their fruits. I think he is talking about BB who kinda gets dumpstered a lot (esp pre his double DFs). I see. I wouldn't underestimate Blackbeard since he did manage to give shanks his scar before he even got his first Devil Fruit. Also, keep in mind, this is when Shanks was already an adult and not some no-name apprentice. BB also fought Ace at a severe disadvantage and won. Ultimately, the only people that managed to "dumpster" on him are Sengoku, Whitebeard, and Magellan, and these are some of the strongest characters in the series.
How was he disadvantaged vs Ace? If anything he had a major element of surprise with being able to negate Ace's powers and Ace didn't seem to know how to properly deal with it.
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United States97247 Posts
There’s no point in trying to logic fights in one piece. Characters are exactly as strong or weak as they need to be for the plot e.g. crocodile’s wildly fluctuating power level or like everything post time skip
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On September 10 2022 06:31 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2022 04:42 Hyperbola wrote:On September 10 2022 04:28 Slaughter wrote:On September 10 2022 03:08 Hyperbola wrote:On September 09 2022 23:09 cLutZ wrote: Oh no. Using your op devil fruit. Its not like we have a Yonko that win a whole way that way. Huh? Who exactly are you referring to? All of the real current/former Yonko have martial powers that match their fruits. I think he is talking about BB who kinda gets dumpstered a lot (esp pre his double DFs). I see. I wouldn't underestimate Blackbeard since he did manage to give shanks his scar before he even got his first Devil Fruit. Also, keep in mind, this is when Shanks was already an adult and not some no-name apprentice. BB also fought Ace at a severe disadvantage and won. Ultimately, the only people that managed to "dumpster" on him are Sengoku, Whitebeard, and Magellan, and these are some of the strongest characters in the series. How was he disadvantaged vs Ace? If anything he had a major element of surprise with being able to negate Ace's powers and Ace didn't seem to know how to properly deal with it. While it's not officially confirmed, it's heavily implied that the true power of the Yami Yami no mi exerts itself in darkness. This is why Blackbeard couldn't just let Ace's flame attacks pass through him. Daylight shining on him is the equivalent of throwing water on Crocodile, making him corporeal. This is why Blackbeard needed a blanket around himself and Whitebeard to block out the light to steal his fruit. Thematically, this is also why Blackbeard as a character never sleeps. His true powers only activate at night, hence his disadvantage when fighting Ace during the day.
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Hancock not only defeated that Vice Admiral that was there, but the majority of the Marines attacking, AND all of Blackbeard's crew that we saw. At the end there, pretty much the only people still able to fight were Blackbeard himself, Coby, and Rayleigh. So sure, Hancock just turned Trash into stone, if you count Vice Admirals and Blackbeard's crew as trash.
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On September 10 2022 10:10 Hyperbola wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2022 06:31 Slaughter wrote:On September 10 2022 04:42 Hyperbola wrote:On September 10 2022 04:28 Slaughter wrote:On September 10 2022 03:08 Hyperbola wrote:On September 09 2022 23:09 cLutZ wrote: Oh no. Using your op devil fruit. Its not like we have a Yonko that win a whole way that way. Huh? Who exactly are you referring to? All of the real current/former Yonko have martial powers that match their fruits. I think he is talking about BB who kinda gets dumpstered a lot (esp pre his double DFs). I see. I wouldn't underestimate Blackbeard since he did manage to give shanks his scar before he even got his first Devil Fruit. Also, keep in mind, this is when Shanks was already an adult and not some no-name apprentice. BB also fought Ace at a severe disadvantage and won. Ultimately, the only people that managed to "dumpster" on him are Sengoku, Whitebeard, and Magellan, and these are some of the strongest characters in the series. How was he disadvantaged vs Ace? If anything he had a major element of surprise with being able to negate Ace's powers and Ace didn't seem to know how to properly deal with it. While it's not officially confirmed, it's heavily implied that the true power of the Yami Yami no mi exerts itself in darkness. This is why Blackbeard couldn't just let Ace's flame attacks pass through him. Daylight shining on him is the equivalent of throwing water on Crocodile, making him corporeal. This is why Blackbeard needed a blanket around himself and Whitebeard to block out the light to steal his fruit. Thematically, this is also why Blackbeard as a character never sleeps. His true powers only activate at night, hence his disadvantage when fighting Ace during the day.
Huh? This is news to me. He specifically said his fruit isn't like other Logia. He doesn't have the ability to let things pass through because he sucks them in but he still takes damage.
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On September 10 2022 13:26 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2022 10:10 Hyperbola wrote:On September 10 2022 06:31 Slaughter wrote:On September 10 2022 04:42 Hyperbola wrote:On September 10 2022 04:28 Slaughter wrote:On September 10 2022 03:08 Hyperbola wrote:On September 09 2022 23:09 cLutZ wrote: Oh no. Using your op devil fruit. Its not like we have a Yonko that win a whole way that way. Huh? Who exactly are you referring to? All of the real current/former Yonko have martial powers that match their fruits. I think he is talking about BB who kinda gets dumpstered a lot (esp pre his double DFs). I see. I wouldn't underestimate Blackbeard since he did manage to give shanks his scar before he even got his first Devil Fruit. Also, keep in mind, this is when Shanks was already an adult and not some no-name apprentice. BB also fought Ace at a severe disadvantage and won. Ultimately, the only people that managed to "dumpster" on him are Sengoku, Whitebeard, and Magellan, and these are some of the strongest characters in the series. How was he disadvantaged vs Ace? If anything he had a major element of surprise with being able to negate Ace's powers and Ace didn't seem to know how to properly deal with it. While it's not officially confirmed, it's heavily implied that the true power of the Yami Yami no mi exerts itself in darkness. This is why Blackbeard couldn't just let Ace's flame attacks pass through him. Daylight shining on him is the equivalent of throwing water on Crocodile, making him corporeal. This is why Blackbeard needed a blanket around himself and Whitebeard to block out the light to steal his fruit. Thematically, this is also why Blackbeard as a character never sleeps. His true powers only activate at night, hence his disadvantage when fighting Ace during the day. Huh? This is news to me. He specifically said his fruit isn't like other Logia. He doesn't have the ability to let things pass through because he sucks them in but he still takes damage. Like I said it's not official but it's one of the more popular fan theories. Blackbeard did mention that he has to absorb the pain from attacks, but he didn't explicitly specify whether that's only the case during the day or also at night. It could be wrong but to me it ties everything about Blackbeard, like the tangibility, the blanket, and the insomnia together nicely. Also, it leaves room for a truly epic awakening, where he can use his darkness to turn the day to night and gain a massive powerup.
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On September 11 2022 05:52 Hyperbola wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2022 13:26 Slaughter wrote:On September 10 2022 10:10 Hyperbola wrote:On September 10 2022 06:31 Slaughter wrote:On September 10 2022 04:42 Hyperbola wrote:On September 10 2022 04:28 Slaughter wrote:On September 10 2022 03:08 Hyperbola wrote:On September 09 2022 23:09 cLutZ wrote: Oh no. Using your op devil fruit. Its not like we have a Yonko that win a whole way that way. Huh? Who exactly are you referring to? All of the real current/former Yonko have martial powers that match their fruits. I think he is talking about BB who kinda gets dumpstered a lot (esp pre his double DFs). I see. I wouldn't underestimate Blackbeard since he did manage to give shanks his scar before he even got his first Devil Fruit. Also, keep in mind, this is when Shanks was already an adult and not some no-name apprentice. BB also fought Ace at a severe disadvantage and won. Ultimately, the only people that managed to "dumpster" on him are Sengoku, Whitebeard, and Magellan, and these are some of the strongest characters in the series. How was he disadvantaged vs Ace? If anything he had a major element of surprise with being able to negate Ace's powers and Ace didn't seem to know how to properly deal with it. While it's not officially confirmed, it's heavily implied that the true power of the Yami Yami no mi exerts itself in darkness. This is why Blackbeard couldn't just let Ace's flame attacks pass through him. Daylight shining on him is the equivalent of throwing water on Crocodile, making him corporeal. This is why Blackbeard needed a blanket around himself and Whitebeard to block out the light to steal his fruit. Thematically, this is also why Blackbeard as a character never sleeps. His true powers only activate at night, hence his disadvantage when fighting Ace during the day. Huh? This is news to me. He specifically said his fruit isn't like other Logia. He doesn't have the ability to let things pass through because he sucks them in but he still takes damage. Like I said it's not official but it's one of the more popular fan theories. Blackbeard did mention that he has to absorb the pain from attacks, but he didn't explicitly specify whether that's only the case during the day or also at night. It could be wrong but to me it ties everything about Blackbeard, like the tangibility, the blanket, and the insomnia together nicely. Also, it leaves room for a truly epic awakening, where he can use his darkness to turn the day to night and gain a massive powerup.
This feeds into the theory that the final battle will take place at night since the Minks are obviously on Luffy's side and need a full moon. Blackbeard turns the battle into night with his awakening and then realizes he just brought out a full moon and also gives Luffy's side a power-up.
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For some reason these chapters inspired me to think of Mountblanc Noland, and how he was probably a greater threat to the WG than any pirate. If he was a pirate he'd be a modest 300-600 million bounty. But, as a pure "adventurer" sponsored by a government he was legit way worse. If he continued to sail, eventually he would replicate Rodger's journey, just with the WG having much more issues trying to hunt or discredit him.
What a fun side character. He's basically reverse Buggy
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France7248 Posts
the 2nd half of this chapter was quite crazy
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I'm guessing that was Uranus?
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Yeah, most likely an ancient weapon, that'd be a bit scary if it was just Im's devil fruit :D Cool chapter!
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I really really hope sabo died. That will start making me respect Oda a lot more. Hope his break made him realize his series needs tension or its gonna keep declining. That was a great chapter and pre-time skip'ish quality. Post wano Oda has been absolutely amazing. Hopefully he doesn't fall into his usual formula
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uranus… (enel?)
looked like a super version of the devastation enel inflicted on skypeia
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United States97247 Posts
Ark maxim confirmed Uranus 0.2?
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