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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3260 Posts
August 29 2021 13:38 GMT
#31641
I'm somewhat fine with the Zorro part since we don't really know a lot about his old man and he's dead anyways, I agree that the Vinsmoke part wasn't very good and I'd rather not have a throwback to it.
low gravity, yes-yes!
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8764 Posts
August 29 2021 16:23 GMT
#31642
i dont know about others but for me ive always assumed from the very beginning that zoro had a family background in swordsmanship so its less of an issue that his wano lineage is coming to light.
i do agree overall on the point that the strawhats' struggles get watered down if they were all destined by blood though. this point has come up before in this thread too
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 30 2021 01:40 GMT
#31643
and to be fair One Piece at least was pretty up front right away about Luffy basically being divine birthright as grandson of Garp, son of Dragon, and Will of D being part of the story almost immediately. it's definitely a shonen trope though but Naruto is prob the worst offender of it
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7384 Posts
August 30 2021 01:41 GMT
#31644
I dunno, Bleach having Ichigo be half literally everything was pretty bad imo
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 30 2021 01:55 GMT
#31645
yeah they're up there. the reincarnation stuff from naruto was just really crazy though
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
August 30 2021 01:57 GMT
#31646
I mean with Sanji we knew there was something special about him for forever so the Vinsmoke reveal was fairly expected.
Never Knows Best.
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
August 30 2021 02:32 GMT
#31647
People when Sanji first used DIable Jambe: "What the heck, how can he just set his leg on fire? He doesn't have a devil fruit! This is bullshit!"

People when it's finally explained: "What he's special? That's bullshit!"

So, like, you guys were fine with Oda saying "His LEG is hot?! No, it's not hot!! SANJI'S HEART WAS BURNING SO MUCH HOTTER!!!" with some connection to his trauma experience with the OKAMA as to why it now lights up without friction...
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2054 Posts
August 30 2021 08:35 GMT
#31648
His burning leg thing was pretty lame from the outset so this random powerup doesn't even upset me. I'm also puzzled about the raid suit, it makes him invisible so how the hell are you going to visualize fights?
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2544 Posts
August 31 2021 18:36 GMT
#31649
I wasn't a fan of Diable Jambe or Asura when they were first shown. They really stretch the rules of the OP universe. Like we already established devil fruits and rokushiki, but then Sanji could just heat his leg up like a hot iron out of nowhere and Zoro could also turn into three people? What? There was also zero setup for any of it. It's like they got devil fruit powers without ever eating fruits themselves. I guess Oda really needed them to "level up" along with Luffy and his gears...
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MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
September 01 2021 00:56 GMT
#31650
On September 01 2021 03:36 Hyperbola wrote:
I wasn't a fan of Diable Jambe or Asura when they were first shown. They really stretch the rules of the OP universe. Like we already established devil fruits and rokushiki, but then Sanji could just heat his leg up like a hot iron out of nowhere and Zoro could also turn into three people? What? There was also zero setup for any of it. It's like they got devil fruit powers without ever eating fruits themselves. I guess Oda really needed them to "level up" along with Luffy and his gears...


not to mention that swords/weapons seem to have magical powers without any devil fruit involvement.... like how exactly does enma work? what makes the kitetsu blades cursed? how does kinemon make fire with his sword? its like, the most powerful swodsman in the world just uses different variations of getsuga tensho but this "average" samurai can make fire with his sword....and somehow vista makes rose petals? senbonzakura?
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
September 02 2021 01:56 GMT
#31651
On September 01 2021 03:36 Hyperbola wrote:
I wasn't a fan of Diable Jambe or Asura when they were first shown. They really stretch the rules of the OP universe. Like we already established devil fruits and rokushiki, but then Sanji could just heat his leg up like a hot iron out of nowhere and Zoro could also turn into three people? What? There was also zero setup for any of it. It's like they got devil fruit powers without ever eating fruits themselves. I guess Oda really needed them to "level up" along with Luffy and his gears...


wrong manga for that my dude. One piece has always been 6/10 manga for kids at best. Just need to watch for the reveals and the rewards. The story in between is set up purely for the plot to progress.
Life is just life
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8764 Posts
September 03 2021 13:40 GMT
#31652
whos the dude that looks like zoros dad. is that ryuma? guy has a bandage over his left eye so he would be 1 eyed
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
September 03 2021 14:14 GMT
#31653
On September 03 2021 22:40 evilfatsh1t wrote:
whos the dude that looks like zoros dad. is that ryuma? guy has a bandage over his left eye so he would be 1 eyed

It's Ushimaru Shimotsuki, the daimyo mentioned last chapter (who is possibly Zoro's dad). Ryuma predates this flashback by a few centuries.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4560 Posts
September 03 2021 15:07 GMT
#31654
So is Yamato a guy or girl....
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Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3260 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-04 00:27:56
September 03 2021 15:48 GMT
#31655
On September 04 2021 00:07 LennX wrote:
So is Yamato a guy or girl....

Biologically she's clearly a girl, unless I missed something. She wants to be Oden, but knows she isn't, so imo it's more admiration and she's not really transgender as in thinking she should be male.

Or as someone on Reddit put it: If Oden was female, Yamato would still want to be Oden. It's not about the gender.
low gravity, yes-yes!
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 03 2021 15:49 GMT
#31656
So far I think Oda is keeping it "Yamato is Yamato". Although, my Japanese is nonexistent so there might be something the translators aren't conveying to me. There is definitely a difference between wanting to be Oden (or be like Oden) and wanting to being a generic guy.
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7384 Posts
September 04 2021 05:03 GMT
#31657
I really hope Yamato joins the crew. Yamato is badass, and a legendary Zoan would be so dope to have on the crew. We'd have a proper Four Commanders type situation at that point though, Zoro, Yamato, Jinbe, and Sanji. I think I'd be in for that.

Yamato would also make a good match for Katarina Devon in a vs. Blackbeard scenario, legendary zoan vs legendary zoan and all.

Yamato is probably my favorite character from this arc tbh, Katakuri levels of awesome.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 04 2021 21:06 GMT
#31658
I think Momo aging increases the possibility. If he had remained an 8 year old I think she would have stayed behind to help govern but now that he's "old enough" he can be the actual Shogun
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 05 2021 02:20 GMT
#31659
Are King and Queen inspired by Hellraiser's cenobites?
The heart's eternal vow
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
September 05 2021 08:44 GMT
#31660
the last Vivre Card 100% calls Yamato a female, not a transgender as it does for some other characters.
In the manga, she insists she is Oden, so people around her probably started callling her "he/oden" because of that
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