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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 07 2021 21:59 GMT
#31601
Robin's power was always multiple. First it was ears and arms, but she's been expanding the repetoire the whole story.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
August 07 2021 23:10 GMT
#31602
I dont think giving her ability some flavor with the devil thing is anything to gat mad over lol. Not like it added power to it.
Never Knows Best.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7318 Posts
August 08 2021 03:41 GMT
#31603
Her devil horns should’ve been arms tbh, like all of the devil bits should just visibly be body parts, it’d be clean and awesome
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
August 08 2021 23:12 GMT
#31604
I think the devil version is just the armament coated version of her prowers...
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3253 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-10 00:46:03
August 09 2021 22:15 GMT
#31605
On August 08 2021 06:28 Elentos wrote:
Spawning hundreds of small body parts and combining them together into one perfectly smooth big body part? Makes perfect sense. Spawning dozens of arms and turning them into functional human-size wings? I see nothing wrong with that. Spawning hundreds of small body parts and combining them together into a slightly non-human body? Garbage writing, Oda should retire.
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On August 08 2021 06:19 Archeon wrote:
I think the problem with it is that it doesn't really do anything she couldn't just normally do? Is she more powerful in the devil form or was the only point to continue to throw back at Enel's Lobby?

Well it allowed her to apply a choke hold on an 8 meter tall opponent so there's that.

Yeah but she didn't need horns, fangs and wings to do so, did she? She could have done that with her new full body summon she showed at the start of the chapter.

To clarify I don't mind the new power and am happy that Robin got a fight in which she pulled her weight. But I think like Zambrah I would have preferred her new power to be a bunch of smaller body parts combining, which was how her other powers so far worked. I'd also prefer if she used her power in a way that enables her to do new things and don't see how wings and horns do that, I much prefer her net or hand-wings f.e..
That being said it was mostly shadowed, so there's a chance it's just built that way and Oda wanted to keep us guessing.
low gravity, yes-yes!
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7318 Posts
August 20 2021 11:39 GMT
#31606
New chapters pretty sweet
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4553 Posts
August 20 2021 12:57 GMT
#31607
Zoro's back and Marco with the one liner plot point again
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Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2539 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-20 14:46:46
August 20 2021 14:46 GMT
#31608
King has fire powers? I thought it was just aesthetics, but nope, looks like he's a fire bender. Jesus, how many characters are there with fire powers in Onigashima now?

Marco, Black Maria, Luffy, Franky, Sanji, Kinemon, Kaido, Yamato, Big Mom, and I think also Zoro? Did I miss any? And what was even the point of the Mera Mera again?
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herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2053 Posts
August 21 2021 11:43 GMT
#31609
Didn't Zoro have every bone in his body broken or something? These "healing methods" sure feel like an asspull. There is no actual tension when our protagonists take grievous wounds, someone will come along and heal that shit up.

I've always felt that these shonen stories should be really careful with the power scaling. Someone with devil fruit powers/physical abilities should start really small and build up very gradually. But since this is not so, we have these random powerups happening every arc. Haven't seen fight tactics in ages either, just heroes outwilling villains.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
August 21 2021 11:51 GMT
#31610
dude, you are reading the wrong manga I'm sure
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-21 20:04:47
August 21 2021 20:04 GMT
#31611
Anyone else gonna tell this man One Piece has been going on since 1997. How is 24 years not a gradual enough power scale... You could've knocked someone up, raised a child and they could be a full grown adult by now. There's more power creep irl than in One Piece.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 21 2021 22:11 GMT
#31612
I’ve seen some people take issue that we went from Sanji losing to Virgo and luffy struggling with doffy to fighting commanders and kaido in “3 weeks” manga time but whatever we are in arcs way longer now and we’re near end game. It’s a kid’s story at the end of the day. We aren’t going to have another time skip for them to be at Yonko level it’s just going to happen
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
August 21 2021 22:42 GMT
#31613
Their crew is also extremely small compared to other emporers.
Never Knows Best.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 22 2021 17:50 GMT
#31614
I mean, it was 100% set up by Raleigh anyways with his "Haki blooms in battle" concept. Oda pre-wrote zenkai boosts into the rules.
Freeeeeeedom
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-22 18:04:09
August 22 2021 18:03 GMT
#31615
Yeah it doesn’t really bother me. There’s no point in trying to rationalize power scaling in these stories. Characters will always be the strength they need to be for the situation

We all know that going in
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Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3253 Posts
August 22 2021 18:35 GMT
#31616
On August 23 2021 02:50 cLutZ wrote:
I mean, it was 100% set up by Raleigh anyways with his "Haki blooms in battle" concept. Oda pre-wrote zenkai boosts into the rules.

I mean people do become better at things by doing them. Growing extremely mid fight fairy tail style is the thing that bothers me, not dudes getting stronger while headbutting a lot. Imo OP was always one of the better shonen in that regard.
low gravity, yes-yes!
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2053 Posts
August 22 2021 20:39 GMT
#31617
Eh, what I'm saying is why do things need to escalate to the point of mowing mountains down with single punches. The same goes for tanking absurd amounts of damage and standing up just because you've got dat willpower. How far can you go with that?

I wish intelligence still played a part in fights. I'm rewatching the Arabasta arc just now, several fights are determined due to people using their head instead of just being more badass.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-23 00:12:09
August 23 2021 00:10 GMT
#31618
On August 23 2021 03:35 Archeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2021 02:50 cLutZ wrote:
I mean, it was 100% set up by Raleigh anyways with his "Haki blooms in battle" concept. Oda pre-wrote zenkai boosts into the rules.

I mean people do become better at things by doing them. Growing extremely mid fight fairy tail style is the thing that bothers me, not dudes getting stronger while headbutting a lot. Imo OP was always one of the better shonen in that regard.


Other than Luffy (who's Kaido interaction kind of is mirroring what happened vs. Crocodile, and I'm not close to the first to point that out) who else is getting power ups? I mean, also haven't you had something "click" while doing a thing as well? Like I distinctly recall a wrestling match where I was close (and lost to the same guy earlier in the season), but losing until the 3rd period and then I realized the way to set him up for a takedown and then it was all over! Also, Luffy did the same vs. Katakuri. He's like a battle genius, learns faster than anyone else in the story.

On August 23 2021 05:39 herMan wrote:
Eh, what I'm saying is why do things need to escalate to the point of mowing mountains down with single punches. The same goes for tanking absurd amounts of damage and standing up just because you've got dat willpower. How far can you go with that?

I wish intelligence still played a part in fights. I'm rewatching the Arabasta arc just now, several fights are determined due to people using their head instead of just being more badass.



Alabasta is a masterpiece, and definitely better than anything post-timeskip, but that is such a high standard...
Freeeeeeedom
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2539 Posts
August 23 2021 00:28 GMT
#31619
One Piece power levels make no sense and I will cite the example I always cite: crocodile stopping mihawk in his tracks in the middle of the summit war.

Story > power rankings. Every time.
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micro345bar
Profile Joined August 2021
2 Posts
August 23 2021 22:01 GMT
#31620
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