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Hyperbola

United States2534 Posts

December 19 2015 05:34 GMT

#24041

On December 19 2015 12:56 Forikorder wrote:

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I NEVER SAID GAS WASNT MATTER

i only said gas is a multi-use word that both refers to the state an object can be in and the most commonly used word to refer to things in that state

Just say it. Just say you're wrong.

aTnClouD

Italy2428 Posts

December 19 2015 05:40 GMT

#24042

Forikorder thinks gas is not matter? Lol dude has to go back to highschool

)))))))

Forikorder

Canada8840 Posts

December 19 2015 10:32 GMT

#24043

On December 19 2015 14:40 aTnClouD wrote:
Forikorder thinks gas is not matter? Lol dude has to go back to highschool

)))))))

literally not what i said at all -.- i dont get how many times i have to clarify that

Talron

Germany7651 Posts

December 19 2015 11:03 GMT

#24044

Did I miss something or do we still know nothing regarding Sanji's whereabouts?

Sick chapter tho. Jack looks pretty cool despite being a cruel monster.

goody153

44072 Posts

December 19 2015 11:05 GMT

#24045

we still dunno sanji's whereabouts or i also missed something incredibly important

shell

Portugal2722 Posts

December 19 2015 11:08 GMT

#24046

Jack is strong but so was Fujitora and i guess Fujitora's DF was a good counter to Jack's melee skills especially on the sea where Fuji could summon meteors against your boat and Jack couldn't actually do anything besides trying to destroy them while getting closer to brawl!

Luffy vs Jack is likely to be like the battle versus Rob Lucci.. a contest of strenght and will

Against DD Luffy was at a very big disavantage because DD was so "smart" and full of tricks

About the DD being honorable... that was proven 100% false.. he was a psycopath and mass murderer

goody153

44072 Posts

December 19 2015 12:10 GMT

#24047

I think a standard 1v1 fight between luffy vs DD .,. DD would've lost fast

when the actual fight happened DD felt so outclassed by luffy in terms of strength.

Man i wish the Jack vs Luffy(possible fight) would be as sick as lucci vs luffy

Elentos

55502 Posts

December 19 2015 12:25 GMT

#24048

On December 19 2015 21:10 goody153 wrote:
I think a standard 1v1 fight between luffy vs DD .,. DD would've lost fast

I disagree with that assessment. Gear 2 and 3 did nothing to Doflamingo after he almost got killed by the Gamma Knife. Gear 4 overpowered him but wasn't enough to beat almost dead Doflamingo in one go. He needed to go Gear 4 twice AND survive the period in-between where he couldn't use his haki. If the gladiators hadn't been there Luffy would have died in that time period.

Yeah, strength wise G4 completely overpowered him but that's not all there's to a fight.

goody153

44072 Posts

December 19 2015 12:29 GMT

#24049

Dunno before he went using g4 there were aloot of obstruction, feels like he was already exhausted before he got to doffy. I think if they just 1v1'd and he figured out he needed g4 immediately doflamingo would be destroyed. When luffy used g4 it didn't look like it was even at all, it was a brutal beatdown where doflamingo just couldn't keep up

Yeah, strength wise G4 completely overpowered him but that's not all there's to a fight.

that's fair there was also a possibility that luffy would underestimate and go complacent against doflamingo

Zambrah

United States7205 Posts

December 19 2015 12:30 GMT

#24050

Its hard to really gauge that fight because Luffy and DD both went into it injured, were Luffy's injuries worse? Were DD's? DD got his inside's all torn up by Law, but he did perform string-triage on himself, so maybe that (at least temporarily) negated a certain amount of the impact?

Starting from full health I'd probably have to give it to DD though, Luffy did have to go at him in G4 TWICE, so 1v1 DD has a pretty long time period to fuck him up if he just survives through the first G4.

shell

Portugal2722 Posts

December 19 2015 12:57 GMT

#24051

In my opinion Luffy is simply to stupid to tackle a fully powered DD atleast for now. Luffy could have died in the water pit because he was careless and stupid like usual..

smarts DD > Luffy
ruthless DD > Luffy
experience DD > Luffy
DF usage DD > Luffy -> since he has awakened it - imagine luffy fighting against DD and his clone and DD can fly(using the strings) so he could arguably fight above water

strenght Luffy > DD
Haki Luffy > DD
speed Luffy > DD - when using gears

BUT if you consider DD is a 40 year old pirate and Luffy is 18 or so... i guess kudos to Luffy

TMG26

Portugal2017 Posts

December 19 2015 15:21 GMT

#24052

Luffy only beat DD because he had help. G4 wasn't enough to finish DD in one go, without the fodder getting luffy time, DD would win.

Lysteria

France2279 Posts

December 19 2015 16:55 GMT

#24053

Plus the damage inflicted by Law before the final fight too.

BlackMagister

United States5834 Posts

December 19 2015 18:53 GMT

#24054

Law's attack should have been a lethal blow, but DD brushed it off and it was never mentioned or implied it had any effect on DD's abilities during his fight with Luffy. I would have preferred if it was shown to be a critical part of Luffy's victory because even without that being emphasized it shown that Luffy was too weak to beat DD alone having to saved by everyone else.

Incognoto

France10239 Posts

December 19 2015 19:35 GMT

#24055

Luffy fought quite a few people before fighting Doflamingo, including a fight with Chinjao, don't remember.

BlackMagister

United States5834 Posts

December 19 2015 21:25 GMT

#24056

Come on internal bleeding vs fighting people with breaks in between? Chinjao was hours before the DD fight and Luffy did not need to use G4 after that it was goons and Bellamy.

It's not like DD wasn't fighting earlier either, he fought Law, Fujitora, Sanji and Kyros. Blah blah DD didn't take damage or different circumstances. Yeah DD didn't take damage because he was strong and has OP abilities, but Luffy's main character gimmick is he has crazy endurance. I don't see how you can think Luffy getting tired from fighting people earlier or weak enemies later is a bigger deal than Luffy/Law's 2v1 Redhawk or Law's internal organ bleeding attack.

sharkie

Austria18362 Posts

December 20 2015 13:42 GMT

#24057

Oda made a comment on the manga’s future in Jump Festa 2016 which was held on 19/20 Dec.

“My readers ask me “When will Sanji appear?” again and again these days. Even Hirata-san (Sanji’s voice actor) asks me “When the heck will Sanji appear..?”

Next year is Sanji’s year!

Finally it’s time to reveal the mystery about Sanji’s birth! The straw hats who didn’t made much appearances in Dressrosa arc will have many highlights next year.”

http://www.onepiecelovers.com/oda-finally-gives-hint-about-sanji-urgent-read/2/
Sanji being a Tenryubito confirmed?

Also I love how Oda is going to give the others more screen time to balance it out. Kishi could have made Naruto way better following this example from Oda -.-

goody153

44072 Posts

December 20 2015 13:49 GMT

#24058

It's Sanji time !~

I hope we get one of those classic one piece scrappy fights again since Oda is planning on showcasing the other SH like Nami/Brook/Chopper too.