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Sentenal
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KazeHydra
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FruitsPunchSamurai
United Kingdom87 Posts
The two dukes probably have a strained relationship due to something really petty, based on how childish their remarks are about each other. Jack needs to show us something good now, to tell us whether he is worth his one billion bounty or not. Like Kidd, I think his bounty is probably inflated due to his tendency to hurt and kill civilians. | ||
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Sableyeah
Netherlands2119 Posts
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Yhamm
France7248 Posts
those two dukes looks really strong, and the use of haki is not visible  another break next week :< | ||
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FruitsPunchSamurai
United Kingdom87 Posts
On December 04 2015 09:35 Sableyeah wrote: 1 billion is abit too much tbh, unless his and Kaidos isn't much apart. I don't think it's super unreasonable, Kidd has a 400+ million bounty (don't remember exact) and he has only been leading a pirate crew for presumably 5 or less years. Someone like Jack, who is one of Kaido's top subordinates, could be a pirate with 20 or so years of pillaging and raiding to his name, all while evading capture from the marines. Bounties seem to be more of a measure of how much trouble someone has caused and how pissed off the World Government is with them. | ||
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Sentenal
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royalroadweed
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Sableyeah
Netherlands2119 Posts
On December 04 2015 09:54 FruitsPunchSamurai wrote: I don't think it's super unreasonable, Kidd has a 400+ million bounty (don't remember exact) and he has only been leading a pirate crew for presumably 5 or less years. Someone like Jack, who is one of Kaido's top subordinates, could be a pirate with 20 or so years of pillaging and raiding to his name, all while evading capture from the marines. Bounties seem to be more of a measure of how much trouble someone has caused and how pissed off the World Government is with them. Agree On December 04 2015 10:43 Sentenal wrote: 1 Billion Beli bounty. And hes not even a Youkou. Way to piss all over any bounty shown in the manga, so far. Luffy's new "giant" bounty gets revealed, and now it looks like barely anything in comparison. Every single bounty in the whole manga now looks small and irrelevant now, thanks to this. Agree | ||
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LaughingTulkas
United States1107 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
And Jack's bounty probably has to not only with the fact that he's insanely strong, but also with the fact that going around annihilating countries seems to be his hobby. Devastating nations would certainly put you near the top of the World Government's priority list. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On December 04 2015 12:38 LaughingTulkas wrote: You guys need to stop overreacting and think about it a bit. His high bounty is because he uses Ceasar's WMD's in every country he goes to and leaves them all a wasteland, it's not because he's really that strong. Its not overreacting when his bounty literally dwarfs every single other bounty that has been revealed in the manga. Just compare how big it is to other revealed "big" bounties. Its three times the size of Doflamingo's. Its thee times the size Gecko Moria's, when his bounty was given when he was supposedly Kaidou's rival. Its twice that of Ace's, who was Whitebeard's 2nd Division Commander and Gold Roger's son. Its a bit less than 3 times the size of Luffy's bounty after he attacked Enies Lobby, escaped from Impel Down, and was a major player at Marineford. Its twice that of Luffy's bounty. Its twice that of Chinjao's from the era when he was a legend. It makes the Bounties of more than half the members of the current and former Shichibukai look like no names who barely show up on the radar. So yeah, the guy is super dangerous. And its no surprise his bounty should be high. Higher than Luffy's, even. But now that its so high that everything look like a joke in comparison? I'm pretty sure most people regarded the 1 Billion Tier to be reserved for the likes of Dragon and Gold Roger, not Kaidou's subordinate. | ||
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Zeo1990
United States132 Posts
On December 04 2015 12:58 Sentenal wrote: Its not overreacting when his bounty literally dwarfs every single other bounty that has been revealed in the manga. Just compare how big it is to other revealed "big" bounties. Its three times the size of Doflamingo's. Its thee times the size Gecko Moria's, when his bounty was given when he was supposedly Kaidou's rival. Its twice that of Ace's, who was Whitebeard's 2nd Division Commander and Gold Roger's son. Its a bit less than 3 times the size of Luffy's bounty after he attacked Enies Lobby, escaped from Impel Down, and was a major player at Marineford. Its twice that of Luffy's bounty. Its twice that of Chinjao's from the era when he was a legend. It makes the Bounties of more than half the members of the current and former Shichibukai look like no names who barely show up on the radar. So yeah, the guy is super dangerous. And its no surprise his bounty should be high. Higher than Luffy's, even. But now that its so high that everything look like a joke in comparison? I'm pretty sure most people regarded the 1 Billion Tier to be reserved for the likes of Dragon and Gold Roger, not Kaidou's subordinate. eh i don't know. Comparing the 1B to ANY of the Shichibukai seems pointless since the bounties literally freeze once their appointed, and there's no way of know how far up someone like DoFlamingo would have potentially gone up if he refused the offer and continued doing what he wanted. Ace was an officer of WB's army not his right hand man like Jack is. Chinjo's is from decades ago so between the newer generation getting stronger and even crap like inflation i wouldn't put as much stock in that either. It doesn't really bother me because everyone knows the bounties should stop at Dragon, the most wanted man in the world. Hes got the highest, followed by the yonkou. So unless BB does some major shit at Revolutionary HQ to rattle that there is a cap. Plus the fact that the New World exists at all kinda make everything in Paradise somewhat mute anyway. | ||
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goody153
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Jack : My underlings never know when to keep their mouth shut. On December 04 2015 11:22 royalroadweed wrote: RIP bounty scale. Jack doesn't seem that powerful though. Both Inuarashi and Nekomamushi seemed to be capable of handling him. I'll admit that Luffy speculated that Inuarashi seemed strong and the last person he did to was freaking Fujitora. I'm guessing that there's something about Jack that makes him extremely dangerous to the world that doesn't involved his combat prowess. Kinda the dude has the balls to attack 4 marine ships with Fujitora, the former Fleet Admiral and some vice admirals. He should be really strong if he managed to survive that (well they failed but he still survived) | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
I don't think its entirely pointless to compare the Shichibukai's bounties to his. Yeah, they froze over, but they were still regarded as being high bounties, and were all given at a time when they were considered to be especially dangerous. Especially in Doflamingo and Gecko Moria's case, with the first one targeting Tenryubito, and the second one rivaling Kaido (at the time). And while I agree that everything in the New World should make everything in Paradise seem somewhat small, this goes beyond that. Paradise considered 100M to be extremely big. Every big name in the New World we have seen so far has had a bounty between like 200M and 500M. The people showing up for the Tournament should have been a good indication about what Bounties are like in the New World. The Worst Generation's bounties after two years gives us an idea too. Luffy's bounty after defeating Doflamingo gives us another one. And now we get Jack who makes all that look like nothing. I feel like I'm typing too much about this lol | ||
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Zeo1990
United States132 Posts
Anyway, WB and Kadiou seem to have different setups to their operations so I'm iffy to compare Division commanders (which there were like 9-10 right) with what Kaidou names his 3 Calamities. You know how how the trope is, the less people in a group the stronger the individual members are. Something I did remember thou. Jimbe mentioned back on Fishman island that its very difficult to raise a pirate's bounty after they get into the 400k range like what luffy was at. So with THAT being a thing maybe bounties simply plateau at the range we have been use to until you start hitting the yonkou/dragon, which Jack is probably a low tier of? Like bounties cap at 500/600k and anything more jumps to 1B, nothing in between? Either way its still THREAT not just strength that makes up a bounty and we still only know so much about Jack at the moment, they keep hiding his human form from us and if I'm not mistaking the hybrid form if his zoan fruit is the strongest form he can take so we havent seen all hes power yet. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
But then again a lot of the people listed as example either became Warlords so their bounty froze or were people like Shanks/WB who aren't going around committing war crimes on a large scale like Jack does. The only reason why Kidd was initially higher was because of his attitude and approach to being a pirate. Which is why Dragon will probably have the largest bounty by far because he is directly trying to bring them down. Luffy has pulled a lot of fucking crazy stunts but they were all reactionary. He never would have went to Enies Lobby, Impel Down, or Marineford if there wasn't someone close to him being threatened. Hell if it wasn't for a corrupt marine reporting him as a criminal falsely he probably would have stayed off the marines radar a lot longer. | ||
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
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Eshra
France1009 Posts
On December 04 2015 17:26 ShiaoPi wrote: Ever occurred to you guys that the pirates might have been boasting? It was not even an official wanted poster and considering the fact that Jack also said "my men never know when to shut up". Just my thoughts That's what I thought as well. | ||
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goody153
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or that could've been real and he really just doesn't care about bounties and shit like law unlike dudes like luffy who compete with the bounty he's probably just annoyed by his men parading him | ||
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