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dubol
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada56 Posts
October 08 2015 22:44 GMT
#23541
maybe Robin is luffy's sister.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-09 00:21:56
October 09 2015 00:06 GMT
#23542
of course people are joking about Robin x Dragon

right guys ? or at least i'm joking about it lol

On October 09 2015 07:44 dubol wrote:
maybe Robin is luffy's sister.

lets stick with Dragon hitting on his son's friend man
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Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2546 Posts
October 09 2015 00:24 GMT
#23543
No, no. Robin is Luffy's step mother.
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
October 09 2015 01:06 GMT
#23544
On October 09 2015 07:44 dubol wrote:
maybe Robin is luffy's sister.

If Robin is Luffy's sister, does that make Croco D Ile Robin's mother?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 09 2015 13:10 GMT
#23545
After looking at the image that shows the back of the third Admiral's head again, it's actually blatantly obvious that it's Enel
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sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden889 Posts
October 09 2015 13:37 GMT
#23546
isnt enel to strong to just simply be an admiral?
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-09 13:51:17
October 09 2015 13:45 GMT
#23547
I doubt enel's that strong.

One thing all admirals that have been introduced possessed outside their great control over their devil fruit is that they extremely strong and skilled in physical combat aside from the absurd level of haki they had like they get hit by another haki embeded strike but they just shrug it (see akainu and aokiji during the marineford war). Although they seem to have great control over their DF they don't completely rely on it to stand up against opponents.

Enel lost to a pre-gear second/third luffy. The shittiest version of luffy. Anybody who was decent in combat that has haki someone like vergo would have killed enel that time.

could be wrong and the timeskip + after skypeia saga time could've made him stronger
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
October 09 2015 14:29 GMT
#23548
I don't see why Enel would return to the planet when he's doing fine as the king of the moon. There's been plenty of times when silhouettes of characters ended up widely inaccurate to their portrayal.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-09 14:58:29
October 09 2015 14:45 GMT
#23549
i wish for a new character for the 3rd admiral but hopefully he's more loyal to the government/marines

whenever the marines are showcased it always felt like Akainu is alone in his fight for order(or justice or whatver he believes to be justice) after seeing Fujitora doing his own thing, smoker and prolly other vice admirals being too weak. It literally feels like he's alone outside Borsalino
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 09 2015 15:39 GMT
#23550
On October 09 2015 22:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:
After looking at the image that shows the back of the third Admiral's head again, it's actually blatantly obvious that it's Enel


Wat. I don't see it at all.

Besides wasn't it blatantly obvious that the last shichibukai was Shiki?
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
October 09 2015 18:02 GMT
#23551
On October 09 2015 22:45 goody153 wrote:
I doubt enel's that strong.

One thing all admirals that have been introduced possessed outside their great control over their devil fruit is that they extremely strong and skilled in physical combat aside from the absurd level of haki they had like they get hit by another haki embeded strike but they just shrug it (see akainu and aokiji during the marineford war). Although they seem to have great control over their DF they don't completely rely on it to stand up against opponents.

Enel lost to a pre-gear second/third luffy. The shittiest version of luffy. Anybody who was decent in combat that has haki someone like vergo would have killed enel that time.

could be wrong and the timeskip + after skypeia saga time could've made him stronger



Enel probably never got hit before. luffy shouldnt even have been able to hit him with the speed enel showcased; enel was simply overwhelmed that it's acutally possible for him to get hit.
This, a different mindset and the timeskip could easily make him strong enough to be an admiral, although i highly doubt it.


Robin x Dragon wouldnt be all too weird in my mind - Robin is a quite a bit older than Luffy, and Dragon doesnt seem to be that old himself.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
October 09 2015 18:34 GMT
#23552
Robin is only 11 years older than him. Dragon is probably at least 10 years older than Robin.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 09 2015 18:36 GMT
#23553
Luffy also happened to be a rubberman with like 99.99% damage resistance against Enel. At the end of the day, he's a stupidly powerful Logia user.

Kinda curious that Fujitora doesn't seem to be a Logia user.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 09 2015 18:45 GMT
#23554
On October 10 2015 03:36 ticklishmusic wrote:
Luffy also happened to be a rubberman with like 99.99% damage resistance against Enel. At the end of the day, he's a stupidly powerful Logia user.

Kinda curious that Fujitora doesn't seem to be a Logia user.


Admirals don't need to be Logias, it just so happens that the three incumbents at the time they introduced admirals were. Sengoku wasn't a logia.
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1076 Posts
October 09 2015 19:48 GMT
#23555
Dragon was already an adult during Roger's execution. He's got to be at least 40 and could easily be 50. Robin is 30 after the timeskip. My belief from long ago was that Robin is actually Dragon's daughter and Luffy's half-sister. It would explain Dragon's fatherly reaction... worry about the daughter and let the son battle it out on his own. However, the timeline would have to be very tight. Also, Robin's mother Olvia implied pretty heavily that Robin's father is dead and she was trying to continue the work that he began. So, he's probably not the father and I doubt he's the boyfriend either. Robin ain't ready to settle down yet.

So maybe Dragon just knows that Robin is extremely important for the revolutionaries as probably the only person in the world who can read the poneglyphs. He may actually turn out to be a little (or a lot) cold blooded and all about the duty of leading the revolutionaries. For the revolution, she's even more important than Luffy. So, he cares about her more than Luffy.

As for Enel, he got hit by rubber not haki. There seems to be some interaction between haki and logias where the logias can dodge a haki attack even when the attack hits their element. The exact interaction is still unknown. However, we've never seen a logia dodge a direct counter. Crocodile always gets hit by water-infused attacks. Enel always gets hit by rubber infused attacks. So, Enel was at a very unusual disadvantage against Luffy. He may be able to handle haki-based attacks just like an admiral. He has shown to have extremely good observation haki. So I think he has the potential to become an admiral.

However, again, I don't see that happening. He's got his moon-kingdom to run and I don't think the world government would take him in so easily. Nor do I think he likes being a subordinate. I also don't think the silhouette looks anything like Enel. So, I'm thinking it's a whole new character. Kinda odd that these guys just randomly show up though. Two major powerhouses (the new Admirals) coming out of nowhere sucks for storytelling purposes.

I'd love to see a few Vice admirals step up their game like Aokiji, Akainu, and Kizaru did to become full fledged admirals. Instead, the vice admirals are getting beat like fodder and random guys are coming to take their place. Bastille couldn't put up a fight against Sabo and Maynard got destroyed by Barto. That's weak. Momonga could have gotten a powerup and easily filled Fujitora's role during this arc. Hell, he already saw what Hancock did to his crew with her power. He has reason to distrust the shichibukai. Then toss in a backstory or even have his eyes get cut during the timeskip and you've got Fujitora without the random appearance. Someone like Onigumo or Doberman or any of the undefeated (and barely shown) vice admirals could have take the other admiral's spot. Onigumo seems like a twisted bad-ass that would follow Akainu's absolute justice and he's never lost a fight. He even cuffed Marco and took him out of the war for awhile. Seems like he could be an admiral and take on the role of Akainu's evil hand.
Playing better than standard requires deviation. This divergence usually results in sub-standard play.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2546 Posts
October 09 2015 21:41 GMT
#23556
You know... not everyone has to be related to eachother in one piece.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-10 01:21:44
October 10 2015 01:17 GMT
#23557

As for Enel, he got hit by rubber not haki. There seems to be some interaction between haki and logias where the logias can dodge a haki attack even when the attack hits their element.


Oh i heavily doubt that ever happens it's usually that the Logia user just coats himself with Haki strong enough to withstand the other haki attack (which notably all admirals did have even luffy and vergo does this coat themself with haki when they are about to get hit by haki infused physical attack) or like the same case as what Monet did against a Haki user just physically dodge her haki infused attacks if that somebody with logia is good enough in controlling his DF.

Pretty sure having good observation haki means shit against somebody who also has observation haki(the more obvious Luffy vs Rebecca and Rayleigh vs Kizaru) besides speed aside Kizaru should be literally be like Enel yet that didn't mean nobody could stand up against the dude. Kizaru is even a obviously soooo much better than Enel with the Haki mastery and he could 1v1 people in physical combat.
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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
October 14 2015 18:08 GMT
#23558
Fujitora like we've seen also has a problem with the "absolute justice" and might have been shelved for that reason or might have been in a important mission and miss out on the war! Or he could have picked up the fruit recently...

We don't know..

Garp also never wanted to be promoted..
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
October 15 2015 04:45 GMT
#23559
On October 15 2015 03:08 shell wrote:
Fujitora like we've seen also has a problem with the "absolute justice" and might have been shelved for that reason or might have been in a important mission and miss out on the war! Or he could have picked up the fruit recently...

We don't know..

Garp also never wanted to be promoted..

maybe he just slept in or was there and just wasnt in the front lines
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8778 Posts
October 15 2015 09:58 GMT
#23560
i dont think fujitora has a military background. id expect something more along the lines of bounty hunter turned marine rather than marine from the bottom and climbed his way up
given his age and ability, theres really no logical reason as to why he wouldnt have been at marineford if he was part of the marines. and him being there but not being on the front lines doesnt make sense because he fucking throws meteors from the sky. itd be pretty hard to miss
the only other explanation would be what shell said, he ate the fruit recently. but given his skill with the fruit plus the fact that he blinded himself a while back and can still fight proficiently, he seems too experienced to say hes a new devil fruit user
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