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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On October 02 2015 12:02 terranghost wrote: you wouldnt happen to implying that moria and buggy are on the same level? please buggy is the fodder that fodder looks at and scoffs at for being fodder not saying Moria is fodder he could definently beat fodder but id put him pretty low on the power scale | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
Though the whole salt thing can bite him in the ass vs certain people and battlefields. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On October 02 2015 11:20 Spicy_Curry wrote: thats probably the main villain of the zou arc I seriously doubt it. How do you even get an entire arc with that guy? Literally every arc involve the straw hats fighting their enemies on their enemies turf, where they've already prepared their machinations since a long time. He might show up and be an enemy, but he won't be the main antagonist | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/mtvFI19.png) At the very least, he looked infinitely more intimidating than he is now. And he had a chin. Now compare that to the fat walking dildo that he is in the present. He probably used to be the type to train himself, and individually was probably pretty powerful. And then he got wrecked by Kaido. Queue his current crew philosophy and him turning into a lazy fatass. Now hes relatively weak. So basically, if he gets his shit together post-timeskip (after having gotten stomped like 3 separate times in the manga), he might have taken a few steps up in the power ranks. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On October 02 2015 12:53 Sentenal wrote: Consider what Gecko Moria looked like at the beginning of his Pirating Career: + Show Spoiler + At the very least, he looked infinitely more intimidating than he is now. And he had a chin. Now compare that to the fat walking dildo that he is in the present. He probably used to be the type to train himself, and individually was probably pretty powerful. And then he got wrecked by Kaido. Queue his current crew philosophy and him turning into a lazy fatass. Now hes relatively weak. So basically, if he gets his shit together post-timeskip (after having gotten stomped like 3 separate times in the manga), he might have taken a few steps up in the power ranks. That's if he trained during the timeskip. The way I imagine things, after he got saved by Absalom at Marineford, he joined the newspaper Absalom works for, became an editor, and is now even weaker than before. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
Though Buggy's rise to power hasn't been explained clear enough. I get that he is supposed to have ex Impel Down members from the bottom floors, but they all look like generic henchmen with no special abilities. If Buggy is to be a Shichibukai even though he is weak he needs both exaggerated reputation and a strong crew, but the crew was just said to be strong never shown to be. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On October 02 2015 13:09 Sentenal wrote: That would be funny, but I don't see Moria not in a combat role in the future of the manga. And if he is still as weak as he was, I can't exactly imagine him accomplishing anything. If Oda didn't have plans for him, what would be the point of mysteriously saving his life? Oh you're definitely right or at least closer to the truth than I am. It would still be funny as hell to see him as a newspaper editor being blackmailed by the revolutionary army to publish their propaganda instead of the government's. With regards to Weeble even if he looks like fodder he is monstrously strong by all accounts even by Shichibukai standards. Many people on forums see a parallel between him and his mother, and majin buu and babidi. The fact that it's unclear whether he'll be Luffy's enemy or ally is pretty cool too. | ||
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RenSC2
United States1090 Posts
Weeble reminds me a little bit of Oars. He's got the body shape, the hair, the strength, and the simple-minded intelligence. It's possible that he's a very young member of the Oars line and that his "Momma" adopted him or stole him when he was a baby. He doesn't have the teeth, but those may have been altered along with his face (which would explain the scars around his neck). This seems like one where Luffy will defeat him, but then convert him when Miss Bucking is exposed as a fraud. He'd make a good member of the Barto Club. edit: Moria will be back when Luffy fights Kaido. Kaido is Moria's true enemy and he'll be able to provide some help to Luffy. Maybe he can use his shadows and make another shadow Luffy to help Luffy win the battle of strength. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
I agree though that this named guy isn't likely to be fodder but I dunno how Buggy himself isn't fodder tier? If Oda makes his new recruits live up to the hype the Buggy Pirates have strength as an aggregate but Buggy's personality of always looking for the quickest path to strength/money/fame heavily restricts his personal power. The guy probably hasn't trained a day in his life (outside of what he was forced to do as a newbie on Roger's crew). I still would expect Oda to give him a modest power boost from the time skip though but he is no longer in a primary antagonist role imo. I can see Weeble serving as an almost comic relief mid-tier boss figure with his slow wit. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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LaughingTulkas
United States1107 Posts
I'm actually more interested in Zou as an island that Weeble. I'm sure Oda has a plan for Weeble but he's just another strong person to me, whereas Zou seems connected to the past of One Piece in some important way and that is very interesting to me. | ||
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TMG26
Portugal2017 Posts
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
On October 02 2015 18:25 Incognoto wrote: How on earth does this guy look like fodder? This is the New World, there are so many strong people out there which haven't been met. Looks like fodder doesn't mean is. A better way to put it is Weeble looks like shit. He looks as shitty as "Three-Tongued" Demaro Black who impersonated Luffy is that clear enough? Usually the physical character design says something about the character's strength but Weeble is likely made to be a contradiction. He is a very shitty impersonation of WB yet somehow he is still really strong. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Darrkhan
Finland1236 Posts
Barto crew is funny | ||
Souma
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
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