EPTOh right Ichigo no powers. I almost forgot about that.
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dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
Oh right Ichigo no powers. I almost forgot about that. | ||
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b3n3tt3
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ichigo's god transformation | ||
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aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On April 17 2013 22:39 aksfjh wrote: Bear with me, this is just off the top of my head, thinking out loud. Ok, so, the first thing, we have that guy from Squad Zero say that Ichigo's Zanpakutou wasn't made by him, but that's impossible since he makes them all. So, a question is brought up, were those Zanpakutou used by the Espada also made by that guy? They behaved very differently, transforming in a very different way, and I doubt those lower level transformed hollows were given Zanpakutous out of some hidden stash of Aizen's. If the case turns out that the transformation Aizen bestowed on those hollows created a Zanpakutou imitation, this could tell us that Ichigo never actually USED a Zanpakutou (at least after his first meet with Byakuya). Instead, his sword is the same imitation as the Espada. The way Ichgo's bankai works also follows this logic, being a transformation that improves the user directly instead of being some immense weaponized power. This also helps explain why going into bankai increased the hollowfication process. This seems very plausible which probably means it's not true. That's not how Bleach works :D | ||
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b3n3tt3
595 Posts
On April 17 2013 22:39 aksfjh wrote: Bear with me, this is just off the top of my head, thinking out loud. Ok, so, the first thing, we have that guy from Squad Zero say that Ichigo's Zanpakutou wasn't made by him, but that's impossible since he makes them all. So, a question is brought up, were those Zanpakutou used by the Espada also made by that guy? They behaved very differently, transforming in a very different way, and I doubt those lower level transformed hollows were given Zanpakutous out of some hidden stash of Aizen's. If the case turns out that the transformation Aizen bestowed on those hollows created a Zanpakutou imitation, this could tell us that Ichigo never actually USED a Zanpakutou (at least after his first meet with Byakuya). Instead, his sword is the same imitation as the Espada. The way Ichgo's bankai works also follows this logic, being a transformation that improves the user directly instead of being some immense weaponized power. This also helps explain why going into bankai increased the hollowfication process. in bleach, that's just a coincidence | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On April 17 2013 22:39 aksfjh wrote: Bear with me, this is just off the top of my head, thinking out loud. Ok, so, the first thing, we have that guy from Squad Zero say that Ichigo's Zanpakutou wasn't made by him, but that's impossible since he makes them all. So, a question is brought up, were those Zanpakutou used by the Espada also made by that guy? They behaved very differently, transforming in a very different way, and I doubt those lower level transformed hollows were given Zanpakutous out of some hidden stash of Aizen's. If the case turns out that the transformation Aizen bestowed on those hollows created a Zanpakutou imitation, this could tell us that Ichigo never actually USED a Zanpakutou (at least after his first meet with Byakuya). Instead, his sword is the same imitation as the Espada. The way Ichgo's bankai works also follows this logic, being a transformation that improves the user directly instead of being some immense weaponized power. This also helps explain why going into bankai increased the hollowfication process. the Esapadas took there real form and sealed it into something that looks like a Zanpaktou then when they "release" there "zanpaktou" they return to there "original" form | ||
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Zambrah
United States7384 Posts
On April 17 2013 23:50 Forikorder wrote: the Esapadas took there real form and sealed it into something that looks like a Zanpaktou then when they "release" there "zanpaktou" they return to there "original" form Which means that when Ichigo gets his new bankai he will turn into a Quincygamilow and rainbow quincy arrows will spill from his rectum and home in towards every enemy he has ever had or will ever have. | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
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SheaR619
United States2399 Posts
I think you forgotten that Aizen planned everything from day 1. Even now this was all according to his plan....-.- | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On April 18 2013 04:23 Canucklehead wrote: Damn, I bet I know what urahara is going to say next. He's going to say the only way to save masaki is for her and isshin to have sex and make a baby. "we jsut take all the hollow in you... and push it into your womb" | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On April 17 2013 22:39 aksfjh wrote: Bear with me, this is just off the top of my head, thinking out loud. Ok, so, the first thing, we have that guy from Squad Zero say that Ichigo's Zanpakutou wasn't made by him, but that's impossible since he makes them all. So, a question is brought up, were those Zanpakutou used by the Espada also made by that guy? They behaved very differently, transforming in a very different way, and I doubt those lower level transformed hollows were given Zanpakutous out of some hidden stash of Aizen's. If the case turns out that the transformation Aizen bestowed on those hollows created a Zanpakutou imitation, this could tell us that Ichigo never actually USED a Zanpakutou (at least after his first meet with Byakuya). Instead, his sword is the same imitation as the Espada. The way Ichgo's bankai works also follows this logic, being a transformation that improves the user directly instead of being some immense weaponized power. This also helps explain why going into bankai increased the hollowfication process. Would make sense I guess, since Ichigos Bankai isnt like any of the other ones, in the sense that it's small while all the others are large. But then again its Bleach so anything could really happen. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On April 18 2013 10:05 arb wrote: Would make sense I guess, since Ichigos Bankai isnt like any of the other ones, in the sense that it's small while all the others are large. But then again its Bleach so anything could really happen. Yamamotos bankai was small and so was vizard leader dude bankais being huge only lasted for SS arc after that plenty of people had compact Bankais | ||
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dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
On April 18 2013 04:23 Canucklehead wrote: Damn, I bet I know what urahara is going to say next. He's going to say the only way to save masaki is for her and isshin to have sex and make a baby. The only way to save her... is for isshin and ryuken to have sex. Awkward future relationship understood. :OOOOOOOOO | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On April 18 2013 10:10 Forikorder wrote: Yamamotos bankai was small and so was vizard leader dude bankais being huge only lasted for SS arc after that plenty of people had compact Bankais Shinji never released bankai i dont think tho. and Yamamatos bankai WAS big in the sense that it would destroyed an entire area if you used for too long. There might be others im missing but it is bleach so who knows. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On April 18 2013 10:16 arb wrote: Shinji never released bankai i dont think tho. and Yamamatos bankai WAS big in the sense that it would destroyed an entire area if you used for too long. There might be others im missing but it is bleach so who knows. Shinjis bankai was the perfume hallucination thing wasnt it? and knife Vizard guys bankai was jsut dragon suit i wouldnt calll that huge Yamamotos isnt huge in any sense, yes it burned hot enough to like kill everyone in 100 square miles but it was still the size of a normal zanpaktou AKA it was small its actually smaller then Ichigos current Bankai Soifons wasnt huge either it was just a bazooka spear crazy dudes bankai wasnt that huge i think small/medium size bankais outnumber the ridiculously large ones | ||
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furerkip
United States439 Posts
On April 18 2013 10:26 Forikorder wrote: Shinjis bankai was the perfume hallucination thing wasnt it? and knife Vizard guys bankai was jsut dragon suit i wouldnt calll that huge Yamamotos isnt huge in any sense, yes it burned hot enough to like kill everyone in 100 square miles but it was still the size of a normal zanpaktou AKA it was small its actually smaller then Ichigos current Bankai Soifons wasnt huge either it was just a bazooka spear crazy dudes bankai wasnt that huge i think small/medium size bankais outnumber the ridiculously large ones Except their bankais extenuate their own skills; for example, Soi Fon's bankai boosts her killing power (which before more or less sucked compared to the rest of the captains). Yamamato's bankai was immensely powerful. Shinji's bankai has yet to be revealed. I don't remember who the knife vizard was, but generally bankai's give you either A) a new power to use (Soi Fon) or B) a better and stronger way of doing what your shikai did (Capt. Kuchiki). But Ichigo's is kind of different in both aspects; his Bankai doesn't really do shit, it just makes him faster and stronger than before (All the Espada follow this, different outfit but the forms are only improvements onto what they originally could do, not additions). Also, if you think about his Shikai, why does it look like a slash form of Cero so much? There is literally no other Shikai that is as powerful as his or any Bankai that is as stupid as his. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
But Ichigo's is kind of different in both aspects; his Bankai doesn't really do shit, it just makes him faster and stronger than before (All the Espada follow this, different outfit but the forms are only improvements onto what they originally could do, not additions). Also, if you think about his Shikai, why does it look like a slash form of Cero so much? There is literally no other Shikai that is as powerful as his or any Bankai that is as stupid as his. 1. his Bankai is just like Ikakus Ikakus bankai makes him super strong but boosts nothing else and Ichigos make him super fast but boosts nothing else there both Bankais thats focus on a single concept 2. Urahara can shoot slash-like Ceros as well using his Zanpaktou 3. Ichigos shikai is pretty weak compared to heavy weights like Urahara, Yamamoto and Byakuya | ||
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aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
Idk, it's just a brief (and probably wrong) theory. There are some inconsistencies that make Ichigo's bankai unique enough that it doesn't fit the mold. We can write it off as typical shounen "hero is always randomly special" or we can guess that it may have further meaning. I hope for the latter.  | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On April 18 2013 11:24 aksfjh wrote: Ikaku's bankai is huge though, and it's clearly stated that the power within it comes from his Zanpakutou's personality. Idk, it's just a brief (and probably wrong) theory. There are some inconsistencies that make Ichigo's bankai unique enough that it doesn't fit the mold. We can write it off as typical shounen "hero is always randomly special" or we can guess that it may have further meaning. I hope for the latter. if Ikakus bankai was about speed it would be the same size as Ichigos there are no inconsistancies in Ichigos bankai like you said the power within it comes from his Zanpaktou and his hollow was inside Zangetsu so obviously his energy beams would be somewhat like Ceros but weve already seen 2 other Zanpaktous at least that can fire energy beams so hes not special there hes not special in size since Yamamotos is smaller hes not special in it changes his outfit since Renjis does that too | ||
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