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On March 06 2013 19:21 PVJ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 19:15 MaZza[KIS] wrote: Awesome, the story is starting to connect and it all makes sense (to me, but I seem to be a rare breed in this thread of bleach haters).
It's quite interesting ... If I understand Ouetsu correctly Ichigo is THE ONLY shinigami to acquire a zanpakuto without using an Asauchi (aside from Ouetsu himself). That is so cool! The fact that it's cool doesn't mean that it makes sense, if your first sentence was written regarding the latter.
What doesn't make sense?
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It doesn't make any sense because Kurosaki got his zanpakuto through a 'legal' way
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
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On March 06 2013 20:03 flamewheel wrote: ohaizen Read this in two ways.
I am so lost right now
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I may be wrong, but I remember Matsumoto recruiting Toshiro for captain position.
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On March 06 2013 18:44 arb wrote:wasnt this speculated since forever ago? since the mark on ichigos bed is the shiba clans marker or something? i guess they didnt react cuz they were under orders? idfk its bleach.
Yeah, Isshin was rumored to be a Shiba since the very first arc.
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On March 06 2013 19:41 Erasme wrote: It doesn't make any sense because Kurosaki got his zanpakuto through a 'legal' way furthermore Rukia seems not at all surprised he had a Zanpaktou
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Bleach actually getting better wat.
Kind of annoying that we're flashbacking in both Naruto and Bleach.
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On March 07 2013 04:51 ticklishmusic wrote: Bleach actually getting better wat.
Kind of annoying that we're flashbacking in both Naruto and Bleach.
Is it sad that I like the flashbacks more than the main story of both D; LOVE the story of Hashirama and Madara, the one in Bleach isn't as good imo but I do like it.
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waste of panels showing it is aizen lol
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On March 07 2013 05:17 sharkie wrote: waste of panels showing it is aizen lol
wasted panels?
in bleach?
why I never
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On March 07 2013 07:52 hooahah wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 05:17 sharkie wrote: waste of panels showing it is aizen lol wasted panels? in bleach? why I never Atleast its better than a random foot..
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On March 07 2013 07:53 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 07:52 hooahah wrote:On March 07 2013 05:17 sharkie wrote: waste of panels showing it is aizen lol wasted panels? in bleach? why I never Atleast its better than a random foot..
Btw we dont really know for 100% who FOOT was right?
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On March 07 2013 07:59 derpface wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 07:53 arb wrote:On March 07 2013 07:52 hooahah wrote:On March 07 2013 05:17 sharkie wrote: waste of panels showing it is aizen lol wasted panels? in bleach? why I never Atleast its better than a random foot.. Btw we dont really know for 100% who FOOT was right? prolly aizens grandma
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On March 07 2013 05:12 LiamTheZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 04:51 ticklishmusic wrote: Bleach actually getting better wat.
Kind of annoying that we're flashbacking in both Naruto and Bleach. Is it sad that I like the flashbacks more than the main story of both D; LOVE the story of Hashirama and Madara, the one in Bleach isn't as good imo but I do like it.
I have this feeling that flashbacks arcs are actually thought about alot more over time, and the authors had forever to come up with how they want it to go. Probably the amount of effort in thought alone is probably why flashbacks are so much better when they come up later in a story. Flashbacks early in a manga always seem terrible =/ but several hundred chapters in, they become great.
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United Kingdom2950 Posts
lolwtf just realized the captain was Isshin. I thought it was Kaien the whole time and I was mondo confused.
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it says isshin's the uncle of kaien on bleach wiki, doesn't that mean ichigo and kaien are cousins that looked alike?
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I remember someone comparing Kaien and Ichigo like 3 years ago? They look so alike.
Sooooo....... Aizen has planned Isshin to marry a Quincy girl who was somehow hollowfied by Aizen (it was unstable on humans and shinigami so he has chosen a quincy), because he wanted Ichigo to be born with hollow powers, so he could find Shinji (?) so he could research hollowfication further, so he could become a perfect hollowfication of himself, so he could become stronger than Spirit King? I don't know where to put the Ginjou Kuugo, but he is there in the plan somehow. Ok, I know.
Ichigo defeating Aizen was a part of the plan (good acting skills Aizen-sama) He wanted Ichigo to lose powers so he can meet Ginjou who was instructed by Aizen so eventually Soul Society would give theirs powers to Ichigo. Now Ichigo has even more power which he could grow. Of course we're missing his quincy development. But that's why we have Ishida and his father around. It is not a coincidence that Quincies attacked just after Ichigo got his powers back.
I don't know why Shinji is a big deal. Was Aizen afraid of Vaisards interfering somehow? He might have overestimated them. How big of a deal is Hogyouku in all this? Was it only a tool to reach a goal?
BTW I'm totally serious :D
EDIT: AND WHERE IS THE MYSTERIOUS 'BLEACH POTION'?! edit2: also I want to rewatch the episodes with Kukkaku and Ganju from SS arc. They knew that Ichigo is their cousin, right? They had to. Yoruichi would definitely tell them. edit3: So where does Ichigo's asauchi come from? Did Isshin's sword somehow split in half? ORRR...
Ok, I get it. Rukia took Kaien's zanpaktou and somehow managed to give it to Ichigo (unconsciously). Kaien died not long before Bleach started, right? It also explains similiarity of Isshin's and Ichigo's zanpaktous and the constant Shikai form (Kaien's sword might have been in shikai form when he died)
edit4: So Kaien's sword magically disappeared when fighting the hollow who killed him... 100% sure it was part of the plan ^^ But the problem is... his Shikai was very different from Zangetsu. So this whole theory falls apart (unless zanpaktou can be reforged by shinigami's soul or sth). So... most likely Zangetsu is related only to Isshin.
I love Bleach ; )
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
This is also going to boil down to Rukia and Ichigo falling in love
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On March 07 2013 21:35 DrGreen wrote: I remember someone comparing Kaien and Ichigo like 3 years ago? They look so alike.
Sooooo....... Aizen has planned Isshin to marry a Quincy girl who was somehow hollowfied by Aizen (it was unstable on humans and shinigami so he has chosen a quincy), because he wanted Ichigo to be born with hollow powers, so he could find Shinji (?) so he could research hollowfication further, so he could become a perfect hollowfication of himself, so he could become stronger than Spirit King? I don't know where to put the Ginjou Kuugo, but he is there in the plan somehow. Ok, I know.
Ichigo defeating Aizen was a part of the plan (good acting skills Aizen-sama) He wanted Ichigo to lose powers so he can meet Ginjou who was instructed by Aizen so eventually Soul Society would give theirs powers to Ichigo. Now Ichigo has even more power which he could grow. Of course we're missing his quincy development. But that's why we have Ishida and his father around. It is not a coincidence that Quincies attacked just after Ichigo got his powers back.
I don't know why Shinji is a big deal. Was Aizen afraid of Vaisards interfering somehow? He might have overestimated them. How big of a deal is Hogyouku in all this? Was it only a tool to reach a goal?
BTW I'm totally serious :D
EDIT: AND WHERE IS THE MYSTERIOUS 'BLEACH POTION'?! edit2: also I want to rewatch the episodes with Kukkaku and Ganju from SS arc. They knew that Ichigo is their cousin, right? They had to. Yoruichi would definitely tell them. edit3: So where does Ichigo's asauchi come from? Did Isshin's sword somehow split in half? ORRR...
Ok, I get it. Rukia took Kaien's zanpaktou and somehow managed to give it to Ichigo (unconsciously). Kaien died not long before Bleach started, right? It also explains similiarity of Isshin's and Ichigo's zanpaktous and the constant Shikai form (Kaien's sword might have been in shikai form when he died)
edit4: So Kaien's sword magically disappeared when fighting the hollow who killed him... 100% sure it was part of the plan ^^ But the problem is... his Shikai was very different from Zangetsu. So this whole theory falls apart (unless zanpaktou can be reforged by shinigami's soul or sth). So... most likely Zangetsu is related only to Isshin.
I love Bleach ; ) This sounds like save state hacking or RNG abuse. I don't care how smart Aizen is.
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