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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11590 Posts
April 30 2012 04:22 GMT
#8721
On April 30 2012 13:07 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 12:42 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
On April 30 2012 12:39 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Even in A Game of Thrones, Dark Templars are imba against Terran.

He shoulda had a raven with him.


Ya, what a noob.

Been too long since I played. I was thinking raven, is that a WC3 unit? Night elf bird on the tree spell or something?
Ravens. Needed a Science Vessel.
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 04:24:38
April 30 2012 04:23 GMT
#8722
On April 30 2012 13:22 Falling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 13:07 Antisocialmunky wrote:
On April 30 2012 12:42 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
On April 30 2012 12:39 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Even in A Game of Thrones, Dark Templars are imba against Terran.

He shoulda had a raven with him.


Ya, what a noob.

Been too long since I played. I was thinking raven, is that a WC3 unit? Night elf bird on the tree spell or something?
Ravens. Needed a Science Vessel.


They are the replacement vessel in SCII.

Either way, I guess he shoulda focused on his own backdoor more than someone else's.
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SilverLeagueElite
Profile Joined April 2010
United States626 Posts
April 30 2012 04:25 GMT
#8723
On April 30 2012 13:22 Falling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 13:07 Antisocialmunky wrote:
On April 30 2012 12:42 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
On April 30 2012 12:39 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Even in A Game of Thrones, Dark Templars are imba against Terran.

He shoulda had a raven with him.


Ya, what a noob.

Been too long since I played. I was thinking raven, is that a WC3 unit? Night elf bird on the tree spell or something?
Ravens. Needed a Science Vessel.

SC2 detection units. Units which also figure prominently in the show.
leperphilliac
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States399 Posts
April 30 2012 04:29 GMT
#8724
This was the first episode with a single pair of exposed breasts. Not sure how I feel about that.

Really happy with the casting, especially Brienne now that she did more this episode. So glad they didn't just make her some pretty girl. And I'm going to catch a lot of flak for this... but doesn anybody else absolutely HATE Daenerys? She may be nicer than her brother, but her obsession of reclaiming what is "rightfully hers by blood" is honestly starting to get to his level.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
April 30 2012 04:31 GMT
#8725
Thoughts on this episode:
  • The shadow demon was much cooler when it was being born, Renly's death sequence was really quite underwhelming.
  • The line that's has intrigued many of us, Arya's "Anyone can be killed" was just awesome. The context, the delivery, that look. Even though she couldn't outwardly show how much she hated Tywin and wanted his head on a platter, you could feel it with every bone in your body. Pretty sweet stuff.
  • The Tyrion and Bronn bit with the "wildfire" was pretty good. Seems like Tyrion is planning to make some medieval IEDs?
  • As the show goes on Bran just seems to be nothing but a magnet for tragedy. Theon is aiming to sack Winterfell, and with no garrison left to defend, and with the prophecy it seems like he's on target for victory. The three-eyed raven ... I get nothing but bad vibes from the thing and the fact that Osha refuses to say what it means. I'd say what I think it means but I really don't want to see it come to fruition.
  • Sir Jorah makin the mother of dragons cry! Also a pretty good scene.
  • Between Melisandre, the opening sequence of S1 E1, and Bran we have all these prophecies, thus far they've all been on target, really wondering when one of these is going to fall to the wayside. I have a feeling Bran is the true visionary between him and the red priestess so I'm gonna stick by his visions and say that Stannis is being lead to his death. It would be oh so appropriate if that wildfire becomes the end of him.
  • What is the name of the dude Arya saved from being burned alive? The guy who plays him is really familiar as well but I can't quite pin him down.
  • The Dolorous Ed vs Samwell scenes are great, an unexpected bit of comic relief considering their harsh surroundings.

Now that we're halfway through the season I feel like the gears are really turning and there's lots of possibilities ahead, (everything above is speculation) I'm looking forward to seeing how incredibly wrong I am come every Sunday. #1 thing I was left wondering is what the Raven means. That scene really got me wondering. Obviously its nothing good. We shall see.

Goes without saying, if you have read the book, don't correct me or answer any of my questions/predictions. Should go without saying but these are all my musings and they should remain as such, as should everyone else's thoughts. To you book readers: as we build towards the climax of this season, please be considerate towards those of us who haven't read.

Looking forward to next week already!
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itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
April 30 2012 04:32 GMT
#8726
On April 30 2012 11:30 YowDog2 wrote:
that shadow assassin thing is SO OP!!!

On April 30 2012 12:24 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
Pretty slow episode. Just more build-up. It's refreshing seeing a show that demonstrates how good guys do not always win.


It is refreshing, but at the same time it is very frustrating. You envision all these awesome possibilities, and then your dreams get crushed with reality. The shadow assassin thing I think is the source of all my hate for magic in this show. None of the other fantastical elements really bug me that much, just the fact that at anywhere anytime that red bitch could spawn some little shadow demon to come kill anyone she wanted... it feels like wayyyy too powerful a tool. How are you supposed to win against that =/
=)=
malady
Profile Joined November 2010
United States600 Posts
April 30 2012 04:34 GMT
#8727
On April 30 2012 11:15 Whole wrote:
The start of that episode was fucking crazy. That shadow demon is so fucking imba, how do you stop it?


magical barrier would be pretty sweet lol
dumchu
Laids
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom596 Posts
April 30 2012 04:37 GMT
#8728
Fuck sake Jorah is such a boss, for a second Daenerys was really reminding me of Cersei, then Jorah pulled her back onto the right path

Also Kings landing burning down / Winterfell being flooded - what is this alluding to

I've only read the first book btw, so I'm ignorant as to what's going to happen, but it intrigued me.

itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
April 30 2012 04:38 GMT
#8729
On April 30 2012 13:29 leperphilliac wrote:
This was the first episode with a single pair of exposed breasts. Not sure how I feel about that.

Really happy with the casting, especially Brienne now that she did more this episode. So glad they didn't just make her some pretty girl. And I'm going to catch a lot of flak for this... but doesn anybody else absolutely HATE Daenerys? She may be nicer than her brother, but her obsession of reclaiming what is "rightfully hers by blood" is honestly starting to get to his level.


I remember when I first read the books I didn't like her that much, but its been a while since I have, and the show is forcing her to slowly grow on me. But I agree, whenever she mentions the throne is rightfully hers I just shake my head. I mean, the Targaryen's weren't native to Westeros, they conquered it. So if someone overthrows them, they're just as entitled to the throne as Daeny is.
=)=
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
April 30 2012 04:41 GMT
#8730
Laids, you reminded me of how interested I am in the Wildfire. I really want to see how it plays out because it seems like such a double-edged sword.
SilverLeagueElite
Profile Joined April 2010
United States626 Posts
April 30 2012 04:43 GMT
#8731
On April 30 2012 13:29 leperphilliac wrote:
This was the first episode with a single pair of exposed breasts. Not sure how I feel about that.

Really happy with the casting, especially Brienne now that she did more this episode. So glad they didn't just make her some pretty girl. And I'm going to catch a lot of flak for this... but doesn anybody else absolutely HATE Daenerys? She may be nicer than her brother, but her obsession of reclaiming what is "rightfully hers by blood" is honestly starting to get to his level.

I wouldn't say I hate her. I think it might be the actress. She seems... petulant with the way she goes about it. Her portrayal is different in the book, but you'll just have to read it!
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
April 30 2012 04:44 GMT
#8732
wow, what a fantastic episode! Favorite so far in season 2.

Scenes with tyrion and the wildfire were well done.

All of Arya's scenes... goosebumps and nerdchills galore

I really like how Bran has turned into the "lord of winterfell" and is now making his own decisions and not just relying on Maester Luwin to do everything for him.

Dany's storyline is great too, although I'm not a really big fan of the dynamic going on with her handmaiden's. Dany's story in Qarth is interesting enough without throwing in the distraction of two of Dany's handmaiden's disagreeing about whether or not Dany should be "Qartheen" or "Dothraki"

overall, total awesomeness
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StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
April 30 2012 04:49 GMT
#8733
On April 30 2012 13:32 itkovian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 11:30 YowDog2 wrote:
that shadow assassin thing is SO OP!!!

Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 12:24 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
Pretty slow episode. Just more build-up. It's refreshing seeing a show that demonstrates how good guys do not always win.


It is refreshing, but at the same time it is very frustrating. You envision all these awesome possibilities, and then your dreams get crushed with reality. The shadow assassin thing I think is the source of all my hate for magic in this show. None of the other fantastical elements really bug me that much, just the fact that at anywhere anytime that red bitch could spawn some little shadow demon to come kill anyone she wanted... it feels like wayyyy too powerful a tool. How are you supposed to win against that =/


You gotta fuck Melissandra before you can make her birth a shadow baby. And based on what we saw this episode, Stannis ain't gonna fuck her for a while yet. It may have something to do with how she believes Stannis is truly her god's chosen one. So it's not like she can go making shadow babies to kill off the rest of the kings.

We haven't seen her after the birth, nor what was required (other than sex).
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Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 30 2012 04:51 GMT
#8734
ok maise has outdone herself playing Arya this episode. with one look and one line, she managed to completely mask a threat to one of the most feared men in Westeros to his face, yet convey to the audience how every bone in her body wants to murder him. wow.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 04:53:41
April 30 2012 04:51 GMT
#8735
On April 30 2012 13:44 Tewks44 wrote:
Dany's storyline is great too, although I'm not a really big fan of the dynamic going on with her handmaiden's. Dany's story in Qarth is interesting enough without throwing in the distraction of two of Dany's handmaiden's disagreeing about whether or not Dany should be "Qartheen" or "Dothraki"

Were they really arguing about her being Qartheen or Dothraki? Did I miss something? I thought the issue at hand in that scene, and in pretty much the entire episode was whether she would take the road of a princess, marry into some wealth and try to ride that to the Iron Throne, but along the way give up her true power to the man she wed, or if she would go her own way and do it alone, which is pretty much necessary if she is going to get what she truly wants. Because if she weds people will no longer be following her, they will be following her Lord, or her Lord's money, or something else.

edit: I think we're getting at the same issue, just that simplifying it down to Qartheen or Dothraki is to skip past the point of it the way I interpreted her scenes.
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11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
April 30 2012 04:52 GMT
#8736
On April 30 2012 13:49 StyLeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 13:32 itkovian wrote:
On April 30 2012 11:30 YowDog2 wrote:
that shadow assassin thing is SO OP!!!

On April 30 2012 12:24 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
Pretty slow episode. Just more build-up. It's refreshing seeing a show that demonstrates how good guys do not always win.


It is refreshing, but at the same time it is very frustrating. You envision all these awesome possibilities, and then your dreams get crushed with reality. The shadow assassin thing I think is the source of all my hate for magic in this show. None of the other fantastical elements really bug me that much, just the fact that at anywhere anytime that red bitch could spawn some little shadow demon to come kill anyone she wanted... it feels like wayyyy too powerful a tool. How are you supposed to win against that =/


You gotta fuck Melissandra before you can make her birth a shadow baby. And based on what we saw this episode, Stannis ain't gonna fuck her for a while yet. It may have something to do with how she believes Stannis is truly her god's chosen one. So it's not like she can go making shadow babies to kill off the rest of the kings.

We haven't seen her after the birth, nor what was required (other than sex).


What a terrible price it would be, to have to fuck a character played by Carice van Houten repeatedly to win the whole war. :D
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
April 30 2012 04:54 GMT
#8737
On April 30 2012 13:51 p4NDemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 13:44 Tewks44 wrote:
Dany's storyline is great too, although I'm not a really big fan of the dynamic going on with her handmaiden's. Dany's story in Qarth is interesting enough without throwing in the distraction of two of Dany's handmaiden's disagreeing about whether or not Dany should be "Qartheen" or "Dothraki"

...try to ride that to the Iron Throne...


One might say she's had some practice.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
April 30 2012 04:59 GMT
#8738
On April 30 2012 13:49 StyLeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 13:32 itkovian wrote:
On April 30 2012 11:30 YowDog2 wrote:
that shadow assassin thing is SO OP!!!

On April 30 2012 12:24 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
Pretty slow episode. Just more build-up. It's refreshing seeing a show that demonstrates how good guys do not always win.


It is refreshing, but at the same time it is very frustrating. You envision all these awesome possibilities, and then your dreams get crushed with reality. The shadow assassin thing I think is the source of all my hate for magic in this show. None of the other fantastical elements really bug me that much, just the fact that at anywhere anytime that red bitch could spawn some little shadow demon to come kill anyone she wanted... it feels like wayyyy too powerful a tool. How are you supposed to win against that =/


You gotta fuck Melissandra before you can make her birth a shadow baby. And based on what we saw this episode, Stannis ain't gonna fuck her for a while yet. It may have something to do with how she believes Stannis is truly her god's chosen one. So it's not like she can go making shadow babies to kill off the rest of the kings.

We haven't seen her after the birth, nor what was required (other than sex).

But do you think she really believes that? Melisandre has seemed like a lot of things this season, a seductress, a witch, a leader of men, a charismatic holy woman, but all the time I never once got the sense that she is honorable. Her words to Stannis are not like those of say Sir Jorah, not ones of true belief and total devotion. At least that's the way I see it.

At this point I'm completely behind Davos in that this woman's prophecy that Stannis is the Lord of Light is total bs. He is a tool to her ascent to a place of power, a place where she could possibly convert Westros to her faith, and in turn become one of the most powerful political players in the region. I feel like Stannis, though a virtuous man almost to a fault in all other things has let temptation get the better of him, and he's all but doomed.
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Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 05:00:18
April 30 2012 04:59 GMT
#8739
On April 30 2012 13:51 p4NDemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 13:44 Tewks44 wrote:
Dany's storyline is great too, although I'm not a really big fan of the dynamic going on with her handmaiden's. Dany's story in Qarth is interesting enough without throwing in the distraction of two of Dany's handmaiden's disagreeing about whether or not Dany should be "Qartheen" or "Dothraki"

Were they really arguing about her being Qartheen or Dothraki? Did I miss something? I thought the issue at hand in that scene, and in pretty much the entire episode was whether she would take the road of a princess, marry into some wealth and try to ride that to the Iron Throne, but along the way give up her true power to the man she wed, or if she would go her own way and do it alone, which is pretty much necessary if she is going to get what she truly wants. Because if she weds people will no longer be following her, they will be following her Lord, or her Lord's money, or something else.

edit: I think we're getting at the same issue, just that simplifying it down to Qartheen or Dothraki is to skip past the point of it the way I interpreted her scenes.


I agree that the whole idea of proposed marriage to Xaro is playing a role, but the scene that was on my mind specifically was when the handmaiden who taught her how to have sex was like "this is such a beautiful gown" (paraphrasing) and then the other, tan one (sorry I can't remember their names) said "she is a Khaleesi!" and got all huffy, and then conceded and said in a sad tone "it's a pretty gown, you should wear it." Perhaps I'm reading too much into it but I got the distinct impression there was a riff arasing in the handmaidens about Dany accepting Qartheen culture over the Dothraki culture.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
April 30 2012 05:00 GMT
#8740
posts like that antisocialmonkey ... too good.
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