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Makavillin
Profile Joined March 2011
113 Posts
April 02 2012 04:05 GMT
#7001
I really wish I could remember the second and third books.
Sprungjeezy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1313 Posts
April 02 2012 04:15 GMT
#7002
Are they not bringing Patchface/Shireen to the show? Or just not yet?
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 04:17:23
April 02 2012 04:15 GMT
#7003
On April 02 2012 11:44 p4NDemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 11:23 setzer wrote:
On April 02 2012 11:13 p4NDemik wrote:
On April 02 2012 11:10 setzer wrote:
Thought the pacing of the episode was too quick and I fear a lot of the more subtle plot elements are going to go way over some peoples' head if they haven't read the books beforehand.

Can you discuss what you're talking about without spoiling? I don't think I missed anything nor did it feel improperly paced but since I haven't read the books maybe there is something I missed?


One example to use is I thought the Stannis/Melisandre scene covered too much too quickly. There were basically three parts to that scene of great importance:

1) Stannis and his connection to Melisandre (did they even call her name in the episode?) and the Lord of Light
2) Stannis writing his letter explaining the incest between Cersei and Jaime and the illegitimacy of their children as well as his claim to the throne
3) Melisandre drinking the poisoned cup handed to her by the Maester of Dragonstone

Not only did I feel all three of these shouldn't have been in the same scene but then in the next few scenes EVERYONE apparently knows of the letter Stannis sent that happened only a few minutes prior on screen time.

I don't know I don't feel like I missed anything there. I suppose if you're a fan of the books it may seem off that it was done so quickly but I didn't think it failed to make any of those things clear. I thought it flowed logically that after you see him write the letter that you can assume the rest of the characters would know of it. The only thing that maybe isn't clear is Melisandre's name, I'm not sure they used it.


Trust me, they skipped out on a lot on that part. I'm going to keep this book spoiler free as per the note, but they did and it was extremely rushed out comparative to the text. It should have been at least two separate scenes imo.

Everything else was really well done though, in my opinion.

edit: also, fuck that sex scene. God damnit that was loud.
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
April 02 2012 04:23 GMT
#7004
Who in the what in the how in the fuck? This episode was a jumble of random stuff, they skipped a lot of plot elements and just assume people will understand enough of what's going on to figure out the rest? lol. No Jousting, tyrion showing up out of nowhere, It's like they decided to skip the beginning part of every storyline and jump right into the middle of each haha. The frist season i thought was great, very similar to the books, so far in this first episode it feels like they changed almost everything, and yet still explain nothing
Wahaha
Heweree
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom497 Posts
April 02 2012 04:24 GMT
#7005
Can someone, please, send me by pm a link to this episode?
It's not like pirating, every american can see it for free on TV.
Shampsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States21 Posts
April 02 2012 04:31 GMT
#7006
On April 02 2012 13:24 TanTzoR wrote:
Can someone, please, send me by pm a link to this episode?
It's not like pirating, every american can see it for free on TV.

Not true as it's on HBO, which is very much not free. However when I get a real Series Craving I find a quick google search to be highly rewarding.
~An elephant who never forgets, TO KILL!!!
nennx
Profile Joined April 2010
United States310 Posts
April 02 2012 04:33 GMT
#7007
On April 02 2012 13:23 aike wrote:
Who in the what in the how in the fuck? This episode was a jumble of random stuff, they skipped a lot of plot elements and just assume people will understand enough of what's going on to figure out the rest? lol. No Jousting, tyrion showing up out of nowhere, It's like they decided to skip the beginning part of every storyline and jump right into the middle of each haha. The frist season i thought was great, very similar to the books, so far in this first episode it feels like they changed almost everything, and yet still explain nothing


O.o


they changed nothing, all they did was "rush" it
Sup
Probasaur
Profile Joined August 2011
United States461 Posts
April 02 2012 04:35 GMT
#7008
On April 02 2012 12:50 Astro-Penguin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 12:44 dottycakes wrote:
Anyone else get startled by the moaning? I turned my volume up real high to catch every piece of dialogue and I swear I heard the steps of joggers outside my house suddenly stop. People probably wondering why I'm watching porn so loudly ಠ_ಠ.


Try explaining what your watching when your parents just happen to walk in on this part tt


I was watching it with my Granma. If it was a few years ago all the way up to my late teens I woulda been squirming awkward every sex scene that happens hell even if they just talked about sex. But now its just life and its seems to not bother me at all anymore. Very much more comfortable with myself and everything around me these days.


And even if you are watching porn, so what? Just gotta own it no matter what you like.


So great having my Granma watching it, my mom still watches celebrity apprentice so she walks in during commercials and such. But I was excited bout season 2 starting like a month ago and was telling my G-Ma bout it and telling her she should watch the 1st season so that she can watch the new ones with me. And from my quick summary she scoffed at it and didn't wanna know. So I just said whatevs and put on the 1st episode of the 1st season and eventually she started watching it with me. Next thing I know she's marathon-ing it and blew thru the whole season in 2 days. I was very much proud to call her my Granma that day.
"He who makes a beast of himself.... gets rid of the pain of being a man" -Hunter S Thompson.
Heweree
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom497 Posts
April 02 2012 04:52 GMT
#7009
On April 02 2012 13:31 Shampsky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 13:24 TanTzoR wrote:
Can someone, please, send me by pm a link to this episode?
It's not like pirating, every american can see it for free on TV.

Not true as it's on HBO, which is very much not free. However when I get a real Series Craving I find a quick google search to be highly rewarding.


I had like the first 5 pages of google research being fakes even sorting the date out.
Anyway I didn't know about the HBO thing, my bad. Thank you for pointing me to the right direction.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
April 02 2012 04:55 GMT
#7010
Why is one of the smartest dudes in Westeros stupid enough to agitate a mentally unstable but very vindictive woman in charge of a bunch of heavily armed brutes?

Unless littlefinger wanted the spymaster to know that he and the queen had a falling out via that scrubber who is actually a spy probably.
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
April 02 2012 04:57 GMT
#7011
On April 02 2012 13:55 Sub40APM wrote:
Why is one of the smartest dudes in Westeros stupid enough to agitate a mentally unstable but very vindictive woman in charge of a bunch of heavily armed brutes?

Unless littlefinger wanted the spymaster to know that he and the queen had a falling out via that scrubber who is actually a spy probably.

Littlefinger knows that he is too valuable to the realm to be killed. The man has a talent for making Dragons(The currency) appear from thin air. The king need someone to finance his war, so Littlefinger should be alright for a while
sjh
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada136 Posts
April 02 2012 04:58 GMT
#7012
On April 02 2012 13:55 Sub40APM wrote:
Why is one of the smartest dudes in Westeros stupid enough to agitate a mentally unstable but very vindictive woman in charge of a bunch of heavily armed brutes?

Unless littlefinger wanted the spymaster to know that he and the queen had a falling out via that scrubber who is actually a spy probably.


Have you read the books?
Ceterum ceseo Protatem esse delendam
seansye
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1722 Posts
April 02 2012 04:59 GMT
#7013
Damn, I forgot how big the story is. Gotta give credit to the producers to try and fit everything.
I will master Speshul Taktics.!
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
April 02 2012 05:01 GMT
#7014
On April 02 2012 13:57 feanor1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 13:55 Sub40APM wrote:
Why is one of the smartest dudes in Westeros stupid enough to agitate a mentally unstable but very vindictive woman in charge of a bunch of heavily armed brutes?

Unless littlefinger wanted the spymaster to know that he and the queen had a falling out via that scrubber who is actually a spy probably.

Littlefinger knows that he is too valuable to the realm to be killed. The man has a talent for making Dragons(The currency) appear from thin air. The king need someone to finance his war, so Littlefinger should be alright for a while

Well, yea, if the Lanisters in king's landing were rational. But with her lover in jail and her son struggling to maintain his throne against at least 2 challengers so far, and her son so willing to just randomly slaughter everyone, would anyone have been surprised [if they had not read the books] if Cersei just killed him?
I guess I understand from a thematic pov the whole episode was exploring the question of 'what is power' but they could have found some other way for someone to remind littlefinger about the power of violence without making him look kind of silly imo.
Icx
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Belgium853 Posts
April 02 2012 05:04 GMT
#7015
well, the episode was a good start.

But I'm really curious how they are gonna continue on this.
The order of the different scenes, and just things being left out (I expected to see a lot more of what happened on dragonstone).

And I also don't know why they changed certain things (no jousting),
And correct me if I am wrong, but the maester of dragonstone (for the non book readers, the one who died from drinking from that cup) wasn't he supposed to be like really old and frail, almost unable to take stairs.
Now he was basicly jogging over the beach oO

lannisport
Profile Joined February 2012
878 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 05:17:17
April 02 2012 05:14 GMT
#7016
They really upped the production. It's a little more cinematic now, I like the long panning shots of the landscapes to show their scope.

It did feel a little chaotic but they're probably just laying down the foundation of the entire book, just giving some context, so they can focus on one or two threads per episode. Maybe they'll focus on Arya a little more next episode. But since there's so much to cover naturally it felt rushed. I wish they would make season debuts an hour and a half long or something.

They didn't leave out much from clash of kings iirc, at least not yet.

I wish they'd show less titties lol. In the books there isn't much gratuitous sex really... I mean when there is sex i.e. between Daenrys and Drogo, it's pretty graphic but there aren't random titties poppin' out. It feels a little cheap.
Leth0
Profile Joined February 2012
856 Posts
April 02 2012 05:15 GMT
#7017
The HBO Adaptation (that IS what it is) Is not going to be the spitting image of the books, after season one I'm not sure why anyone would still have that idea. The first episode of season 2 has done a really good job so far and is really good at doing what needs to be done while adding a few things here and there that were not even in the books (The scene with Jaime and Robb for one). I'm an avid reader and fan of the books but I can sit back and enjoy what the producers are doing with the series without finding the need to nitpick everything. Not sure how you could have the time to actually enjoy the HBO 'Adaptation" if you did spend all the time nitpicking everything that was or was not in the books.

Just try and enjoy it for what it is.
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
April 02 2012 05:15 GMT
#7018
They really need to have 2 hour episodes as they get further into the book they are going to have to much to contain into 1 hour or just 10 episodes a season how are they going to fit EVERYTHING and still have quality television. Time to work some magic I suppose. My whole family was a bit lost and I had to constantly explain what and who people were during the part with Stannis.
I am Godzilla You are Japan
EsMuyVien
Profile Joined July 2011
United States408 Posts
April 02 2012 05:21 GMT
#7019
Holy shit, Rob Stark was godly this episode. His scene with Jamie Lannister has to be my all-time favorite of the series so far. So many amazing lines and such god-tier delivery.
If what I think is happening is happening - it better not be.
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
April 02 2012 05:28 GMT
#7020
On April 02 2012 14:21 EsMuyVien wrote:
Holy shit, Rob Stark was godly this episode. His scene with Jamie Lannister has to be my all-time favorite of the series so far. So many amazing lines and such god-tier delivery.

Yah the guy playing Robb Stark is fing killing it. Lots of early reviews of the first four episodes were raving about him
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