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[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-21 18:54:10
July 21 2009 18:51 GMT
#41
oh wait a fucking minute.... WHEEL OF TIME IS NOT FINISHED?????????

should i just stop now im on book 4 only.. and yea i agree GRRM he definitely needs to finish these books.
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kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-21 19:02:15
July 21 2009 18:58 GMT
#42
On July 22 2009 03:44 King K. Rool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2009 02:53 BisuBoi wrote:
No disrespect but could GRRM please focus on finishing the goddamn series, rather than running around goofing off with comic books and HBO adaptations? Sorry, I'm still pissed off at how Robert Jordan died after making me slog through 15,000 pages of his world and DIDN'T FINISH. Then you look at GRRM who is anything but in the bloom of his health and you have to wonder if that guy's not going to just kick the bucket too.

Yeah really, I read this long ago enough that I don't even remember how the two storylines converge, if they actually do, and only some character names. Still great series, I'll have to remember to bring to uni with me after this job-term so I can reread.


i'm just generally pissed at robert jordan for letting the series degrade so far, if you're re-reading them you'll see what i mean! the first few books are really quite good, but he just keeps introducing characters! i can't remember which it was, but the last jordan i read had about 2 chapters on each subplot! aparently brandon sanderson is gonna finish the series off... have only read one of his so i can't say whether that's a good thing or not! imo shoulda got steven erikson to do it!

martin is great, i've only read the first two, but i'm gonna get the 3rd soon... trying to pace myself so i don't have to wait for the books.

on topic, so excited about this series, gonna have to watch it!

edit: @[GiTM]-Ace, yeah! probably not worth reading the later ones imo! if i was a total fanboy i'd suggest switching to steven erikson... seriously, that guy is good. and releases books faster than yearly, he's a machine!
ZerG~LegenD
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Sweden1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-21 19:04:21
July 21 2009 18:59 GMT
#43
On July 22 2009 03:51 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
oh wait a fucking minute.... WHEEL OF TIME IS NOT FINISHED?????????

should i just stop now im on book 4 only.. and yea i agree GRRM he definitely needs to finish these books.

They hired another fantasy writer to finish the last book based on Jordan's notes.

On July 22 2009 03:26 BisuBoi wrote:
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On July 22 2009 02:58 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
lol is he that old or sick at all?


At the pace he's writing, it's going to take him 6-7 years per book. And the older he gets, the slower he gets... So you're looking at what, 2025 the series will finish? That would make him 75 yrs old. Yeah, there are some definite concerns there.

And sers, the wait is getting ridiculous. It's been almost ten years since I've read any new material about most of the characters I like. Feast for Crows had everyone I didn't like, except for Tyrion.

One of the major reasons why ADwD has been so delayed is a piece of the plot, referred to as 'the Meereenese knott', which has been troubling him for 4 years now. Hopefully he'll be able to write more straight forward once he's done with ADwD. Which hopefully will be pretty soon; this is what he wrote on June 22: "[...]for the first time in a very long while, I think I can see a glimmering that might just be a light at the end of the tunnel."
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
July 21 2009 19:06 GMT
#44
On July 22 2009 03:51 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
oh wait a fucking minute.... WHEEL OF TIME IS NOT FINISHED?????????

should i just stop now im on book 4 only..


The Wheel of Time is mediocre at best. I actually thought the first 4-5 books sucked and it only started getting good around book 6 (maybe book 5, can't remember). I've still never read past book 8 or 9. On the bright side, the author currently finishing the series, Brandon Sanderson, is extremely good.

I remember reading last year that HBO was putting the ASoIaF pilot up against a new King Arthur series. Considering that the BBC just made another shitty Merlin show, hopefully HBO will go with the original fantasy property and not rehash Camelot for the thousandth time.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
July 21 2009 21:05 GMT
#45
On July 22 2009 03:58 kerpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2009 03:44 King K. Rool wrote:
On July 22 2009 02:53 BisuBoi wrote:
No disrespect but could GRRM please focus on finishing the goddamn series, rather than running around goofing off with comic books and HBO adaptations? Sorry, I'm still pissed off at how Robert Jordan died after making me slog through 15,000 pages of his world and DIDN'T FINISH. Then you look at GRRM who is anything but in the bloom of his health and you have to wonder if that guy's not going to just kick the bucket too.

Yeah really, I read this long ago enough that I don't even remember how the two storylines converge, if they actually do, and only some character names. Still great series, I'll have to remember to bring to uni with me after this job-term so I can reread.


i'm just generally pissed at robert jordan for letting the series degrade so far, if you're re-reading them you'll see what i mean! the first few books are really quite good, but he just keeps introducing characters! i can't remember which it was, but the last jordan i read had about 2 chapters on each subplot! aparently brandon sanderson is gonna finish the series off... have only read one of his so i can't say whether that's a good thing or not! imo shoulda got steven erikson to do it!

martin is great, i've only read the first two, but i'm gonna get the 3rd soon... trying to pace myself so i don't have to wait for the books.

on topic, so excited about this series, gonna have to watch it!

edit: @[GiTM]-Ace, yeah! probably not worth reading the later ones imo! if i was a total fanboy i'd suggest switching to steven erikson... seriously, that guy is good. and releases books faster than yearly, he's a machine!


looks interesting. After I finished wheel of time my next series was going to be The Sword of Truth by Terry Goodkind. Now I dunno what to do haha
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
DM20
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada544 Posts
July 21 2009 21:10 GMT
#46
Asking for any author to finish a book faster is going to make the books suck, look what happened to Harry Potter, the last two bucks were the worst in the series, and the only reason they did so well was ridding the success of the first five.
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
July 22 2009 04:35 GMT
#47
He's not the type of person who'd let that happen, and there's really no point in talking about this anyway.

In other news, from WinterIsComing's blog:

Namely production designer Gemma Jackson. Jackson's experience as a production designer includes some impressive work with John Adams (where she won an Emmy) and Finding Neverland (where she was nominated for an Oscar). Having someone of her caliber on board as production designer means Thrones' sets, costumes, props, etc. should look top-notch.


i forget who was concerned over the costume design but this tidbit should remove any concerns. I think we can expect the sets and everything else to look amazing now.. this show is really starting to look good.. and HBO seems to be taking this pretty seriously, especially with the filming in Ireland/Tunisia along with the Sean Bean, the director, casting director, etc. Things are looking up for it becoming a real show
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DBunny
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada192 Posts
July 22 2009 04:55 GMT
#48
fuck yeah
GreenManalishi
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada834 Posts
July 22 2009 05:04 GMT
#49
Anyone tried playing the "A Game of Thrones" board game? It is quite good, apart from some balancing problems. Definitely a cut above games like Risk. The board game is what got me into this series actually.

If you are a fan of the books and like board games, definitely check it out. A suprising amount of depth and strategy is required. I recommend playing with only four players because Pyke is completely overpowered and will absolutely destroy Lannister off the first turn.
Shurax
Profile Joined March 2009
United States80 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-22 07:18:51
July 22 2009 07:15 GMT
#50
I am not really interested in the movies of books or drama series in this case. Every time i go and see one i think it sucks compared to the book COUGH* eragon COUGH*. It would atleast encourage people to read the great book series.
Shurax
Profile Joined March 2009
United States80 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-22 07:36:18
July 22 2009 07:16 GMT
#51
On July 22 2009 03:51 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
oh wait a fucking minute.... WHEEL OF TIME IS NOT FINISHED?????????

should i just stop now im on book 4 only.. and yea i agree GRRM he definitely needs to finish these books.


Really sorry dude but the author of The Wheel of time is DEAD. Ya i know it sucks but you should at least finish the rest of the remaining books they are good. Its cool that they are getting someone to finish it off but it would be a different author and just would not be same i think. Also 5-8 kind of do suck but after that it picks back up and gets really really interesting so just read through them really fast to get to the good ones.

P.S. sry for double posting XD
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
July 22 2009 07:19 GMT
#52
The choice of Sean Bean is pretty ideal, Bean is a G, like his character. But the guy who is going to play King Robert is not a G at all. He always plays the role of the average american iirc.
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Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
July 22 2009 10:20 GMT
#53
they should take matthew mccaughney as jaime

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and scarlett johansson as cersei? ;D

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Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
July 22 2009 16:20 GMT
#54
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2460260608/nm0004692
he sure looks kind of like what I imagine King Robert might look like here in A Knight's Tale (w/o the kingly attire)
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Strayline
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States330 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-22 17:29:37
July 22 2009 17:26 GMT
#55
On November 16 2008 01:10 Fzero wrote:
Gonna be epic.

+ Show Spoiler +
Pilot should stop when Bran gets pushed out of the window, before he hits the ground.


It does... there was a post where one of the writers said it begins with "we should start back..." and ends with "the things I do for love"


http://winter-is-coming.blogspot.com/2008/12/new-info-from-producers.html#comments
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
July 22 2009 17:39 GMT
#56
On July 23 2009 02:26 Strayline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2008 01:10 Fzero wrote:
Gonna be epic.

+ Show Spoiler +
Pilot should stop when Bran gets pushed out of the window, before he hits the ground.


It does... there was a post where one of the writers said it begins with "we should start back..." and ends with "the things I do for love"


http://winter-is-coming.blogspot.com/2008/12/new-info-from-producers.html#comments

Oh fuck yes.
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
July 22 2009 17:41 GMT
#57
I read the books awhile back and loved them. But since they are so long and it's going to be awhile until the next book I started listening to the audio books. It's a nice refresher and I still like the story.
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BisuBoi
Profile Joined February 2009
United States350 Posts
July 22 2009 17:46 GMT
#58
GRRM is already showing a lot of the same symptoms as Robert Jordan did. AKA Adding tons of useless characters, involving settings that I don't care about, expanding his series from the intended 4 books to an intended 7 now. Feast for Crows was an insult. To go an entire novel without continuing half the characters' plot lines? When you have like a thousand pages to work with?? That shows a serious inability to control his plotting/pacing. Daenerys, the Starks, the Lannisters, that is the meat of the story. All this Iron Island pseudo-viking BS just simply doesn't need to be in there to the degree it is. They could have been faceless invaders and a wild-card without having to delve too deeply into it. GRRM is just bloating his material to milk more cash out of the franchise. And as a consumer, that pisses me off.

And having "trouble" with a part of the story which causes a 4 yr delay? Yeah lol. More like he's making dough so he isn't motivated to solve the problem and move on. I can guarantee you, if he was a hungry young writer that problem would have been solved in a few weeks of all-nighters.

This kind of crap always happens when a series gets popular. Suddenly it's not about a great series anymore, it's about a great money maker.
bN`
Profile Joined May 2009
Slovenia504 Posts
July 22 2009 17:57 GMT
#59
I've read all the books and I love the series. But it's an enourmous project and Martin is very precise when it comes to a character's actions since it has to be in tune his previous decisions. Imo that's what makes his characters so real and beliavable.

Anyone tried playing the "A Game of Thrones" board game? It is quite good, apart from some balancing problems. Definitely a cut above games like Risk. The board game is what got me into this series actually.

If you are a fan of the books and like board games, definitely check it out. A suprising amount of depth and strategy is required. I recommend playing with only four players because Pyke is completely overpowered and will absolutely destroy Lannister off the first turn.


Me and a group of friends played about 15games of it. After the first 2 we balanced out Greyjoy by switching him with Tyrell on the King's court ladder which takes away his +1 march and gives Tyrell the mobility to not be a total suckage. Also if you don't want to make the game all about sea control buy the Clash of kings expansion and add the ports. If you don't want to then just make homemade ports and play with them since it brings the necessary nerf to the uber mobility that ships provide you with.
"It's just a ride." - Bill Hicks
Eti307
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Canada3442 Posts
July 22 2009 18:11 GMT
#60
On July 22 2009 19:20 Ghardo wrote:
they should take matthew mccaughney as jaime

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[image loading]


and scarlett johansson as cersei? ;D

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[image loading]


it's a TV serie dude, not a movie. I'm pretty sure the rest of the cast will be mostly unknowns

Sean Bean is awesome though, it's perfect (gotta dye his hair black though!)
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