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All book discussion in this thread is now allowed.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 13 2019 20:49 GMT
#35681
I’m pretty sure those books are never going to exist. Because like so many people in this thread, I have low expectations.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
May 13 2019 21:01 GMT
#35682
On May 14 2019 04:58 Hyperbola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2019 04:55 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On May 14 2019 04:52 Hyperbola wrote:
You know, it was said before that Martin gave D&D a general gist as to how the books would end and where each important character would end up. It was their job to fill in the gaps.

That said. It means that GRRM actually wanted Dany to burn the city and lose 2/3 of her dragons. He also wanted Arya to kill the night king. In regards to the other stories - having Jamie do a 360 and moonwalk away from his character arc must have also been part of George's plan. Very hard to believe, I know, but I doubt George would neglect to tell them the fate of such an important character.

Granted, now that we have all witnessed how terrible the plot has become, George is always free to change his mind. He could look at the TV audience as a "test audience" and think "hmmm maybe I should have Bran actually do something and have the Night King actually be the main villain of the story and not die in such a lame ass way".

Personally, I'd have Winterfell be destroyed and have the remaining forces of man retreat past the neck and have them be sandwiched in between the undead and Cersei's forces. Maybe have King's Landing be the last stand, with the dragon battles causing the city to be burned to ashes. At least that would make them a little bit more intimidating.


I don't think that it means any of what you said.

GRRM could have just said "Dany becomes tyrannical and gets killed" and "The Night King loses at Winterfell" and "Jaime dies with Cersei". How all of those end up happening in the books could be wildly different.

You really don't think they'd ask "How does the night king die?" or "What happened with Jamie and Cersei?"
If you're interviewing someone about something important, usually there's followup questions.

DnD confirmed in an ep.3(?) bts interview that they decided Arya was to kill the NK three years ago, that having Jon do it didn't seem right. So no, I don't think GRRM has had much input on how the end of the show plays out.

As for Dany turning into Hitler burning innocents on the streets for no apparent reason. Come on, that's what anyone who just lost a child would do...
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
May 13 2019 21:27 GMT
#35683
At this point i'm gonna put my money on Gendry for new King. Dany and Tyrion are gonna die, Jon is going to the wildlings, Arya is gonna fuck of to somewhere where she is alone and everyone else will be quietly forgotten just like Dorne for the past 3 seasons because no time to fit them in the last 70 minutes
J/k no seriously, i'm really wondering who is going to "win" the game if thrones. Not that there is much left to rule..
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 13 2019 21:29 GMT
#35684
On May 14 2019 06:27 BlackCompany wrote:
At this point i'm gonna put my money on Gendry for new King. Dany and Tyrion are gonna die, Jon is going to the wildlings, Arya is gonna fuck of to somewhere where she is alone and everyone else will be quietly forgotten just like Dorne for the past 3 seasons because no time to fit them in the last 70 minutes
J/k no seriously, i'm really wondering who is going to "win" the game if thrones. Not that there is much left to rule..

My bet is there is no high king after all of this. That the throne and the fight over who should sit on it is bad.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-13 21:33:43
May 13 2019 21:31 GMT
#35685
Are you talking about that scene?



if so - I am sure its Ash not snow and the sequence after it is her traveling to the afterlife / dying and meeting her loved ones. So pretty confident Dany is going nowhere to be fair.


Edit: nevermind, saw what you guys were referring too. Last shot doesnt necessary means in order. But lets see.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
May 13 2019 21:43 GMT
#35686
On May 14 2019 06:31 NarutO wrote:
Are you talking about that scene?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gulVUWrADCM&t=

if so - I am sure its Ash not snow and the sequence after it is her traveling to the afterlife / dying and meeting her loved ones. So pretty confident Dany is going nowhere to be fair.


Edit: nevermind, saw what you guys were referring too. Last shot doesnt necessary means in order. But lets see.


Could be snow that sits on the throne or the queen of the ashes, think it will be Jon in the end.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
May 13 2019 21:50 GMT
#35687
so, what happened to the Valonqar prophecy?
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5058 Posts
May 13 2019 21:52 GMT
#35688
I'm fairly certain Daenerys is suffering from misophonia, specifically triggered by the bells.
Taxes are for Terrans
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
May 13 2019 22:03 GMT
#35689
i dont think nothing weird happened with any of the characters, its just how fast everything happened

one day they were in war and beating vs the dude they have been hyping since season 1 (for fucking years) and the reaction to that was like "ok, thats cool, what's next?"

too fast
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22127 Posts
May 13 2019 22:05 GMT
#35690
On May 14 2019 06:50 Yhamm wrote:
so, what happened to the Valonqar prophecy?
The writers forgot about it.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
May 13 2019 22:12 GMT
#35691
On May 14 2019 07:05 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2019 06:50 Yhamm wrote:
so, what happened to the Valonqar prophecy?
The writers forgot about it.


Possible that we get a short scene of Jamie and Cersei heavily wounded and Jamie mercy kills her or something but seems unlikely now.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9781 Posts
May 13 2019 22:17 GMT
#35692
On May 14 2019 07:05 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2019 06:50 Yhamm wrote:
so, what happened to the Valonqar prophecy?
The writers forgot about it.

More likely that someone brought it up and they just said "naaaaaa can't be bothered to think why that would happen so they can just die with everyone else because dragon"
RIP Meatloaf <3
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-13 22:28:23
May 13 2019 22:25 GMT
#35693
having watched all season in like 13 days

maggy never talks about the valonqar in the show, she only says cersei will be queen and another younger more beatiful will come and take all what she holds, and that she will only have 3 kids, and she did: Joffrey, Myrcella, Tommen.

so the prophecy isn't actually unfulfillled, the things actually happened, is just not the same as the books
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
May 13 2019 22:40 GMT
#35694
On May 14 2019 04:58 Hyperbola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2019 04:55 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On May 14 2019 04:52 Hyperbola wrote:
You know, it was said before that Martin gave D&D a general gist as to how the books would end and where each important character would end up. It was their job to fill in the gaps.

That said. It means that GRRM actually wanted Dany to burn the city and lose 2/3 of her dragons. He also wanted Arya to kill the night king. In regards to the other stories - having Jamie do a 360 and moonwalk away from his character arc must have also been part of George's plan. Very hard to believe, I know, but I doubt George would neglect to tell them the fate of such an important character.

Granted, now that we have all witnessed how terrible the plot has become, George is always free to change his mind. He could look at the TV audience as a "test audience" and think "hmmm maybe I should have Bran actually do something and have the Night King actually be the main villain of the story and not die in such a lame ass way".

Personally, I'd have Winterfell be destroyed and have the remaining forces of man retreat past the neck and have them be sandwiched in between the undead and Cersei's forces. Maybe have King's Landing be the last stand, with the dragon battles causing the city to be burned to ashes. At least that would make them a little bit more intimidating.


I don't think that it means any of what you said.

GRRM could have just said "Dany becomes tyrannical and gets killed" and "The Night King loses at Winterfell" and "Jaime dies with Cersei". How all of those end up happening in the books could be wildly different.

You really don't think they'd ask "How does the night king die?" or "What happened with Jamie and Cersei?"
If you're interviewing someone about something important, usually there's followup questions.


They could ask.

They also have the artistic license to change whatever the hell they want because it's their TV show and both TV shows and movies regularly change the plot of adaptations to make it "more TV/movie friendly".

Furthermore, there is a very concrete difference between the writing based on GRRM's source material and the writing beyond it. One is good, the other is not. Until we get a book 6 to show us if the books follow closely or not, I'll give Martin the benefit of the doubt, based on all of his current work.

fanboys at their best


Swing and a miss Sharkie. LotR > ASOIAF. Try again.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
May 13 2019 22:43 GMT
#35695
Malazan > Both
Get rekt.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
May 13 2019 22:48 GMT
#35696
On May 14 2019 07:43 SK.Testie wrote:
Malazan > Both
Get rekt.


Blasphemy.

Burn the heretic.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10855 Posts
May 13 2019 22:57 GMT
#35697
Im at 32 minutes now... Why is kings landing in a dessert now?

Fuck this... Fuck all of it..... The army just went thru some steppe gras... and why is cersey looking out of the window smiling...


Burn it.. burn it.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
May 13 2019 22:58 GMT
#35698
On May 14 2019 05:45 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2019 04:57 sharkie wrote:
On May 14 2019 04:55 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On May 14 2019 04:52 Hyperbola wrote:
You know, it was said before that Martin gave D&D a general gist as to how the books would end and where each important character would end up. It was their job to fill in the gaps.

That said. It means that GRRM actually wanted Dany to burn the city and lose 2/3 of her dragons. He also wanted Arya to kill the night king. In regards to the other stories - having Jamie do a 360 and moonwalk away from his character arc must have also been part of George's plan. Very hard to believe, I know, but I doubt George would neglect to tell them the fate of such an important character.

Granted, now that we have all witnessed how terrible the plot has become, George is always free to change his mind. He could look at the TV audience as a "test audience" and think "hmmm maybe I should have Bran actually do something and have the Night King actually be the main villain of the story and not die in such a lame ass way".

Personally, I'd have Winterfell be destroyed and have the remaining forces of man retreat past the neck and have them be sandwiched in between the undead and Cersei's forces. Maybe have King's Landing be the last stand, with the dragon battles causing the city to be burned to ashes. At least that would make them a little bit more intimidating.


I don't think that it means any of what you said.

GRRM could have just said "Dany becomes tyrannical and gets killed" and "The Night King loses at Winterfell" and "Jaime dies with Cersei". How all of those end up happening in the books could be wildly different.


fanboys at their best


Obviously you wouldn't understand that there is a difference between having the same overall plot points, and how they get executed/developed.
Everytime someone tried to come from that angle you reject it, i have to assume because you have no idea what storytelling is and how it works.

I am pretty confident that a lot of the plotpoints will be the same, dany will do terrible things in the books as well, but it will be justified differently, we have one big plotline in the books which isn't present at all in the show which will help a ton in that department.
About the long night: There is no nightking in the books, this will be extremely different solely based on this crucial fact.

But hey, hurr durr fanboys am i right. I wouldn't have thought that one person could trigger me as much, but you adn that fish dude actually did it.


zzzz stop crying why you dragging my name into this. feast for crows sucks. IT IS KNOWN. keep the discussion on the brilliant episode 5. how will episode 6 top episode 5??????
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10855 Posts
May 13 2019 22:59 GMT
#35699
hahaha, they didn't even have enough extras to show jamie having to force his way back thru the crowd.. pricleless... At every concert you face more recistance, yet here we are before the gates... rofl
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10855 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-13 23:10:36
May 13 2019 23:07 GMT
#35700
Ok.. 39 minutes in now... just fuck this shit. Gonna rewatch Terminator 2, this is just horrible and uninteresting,


I'm half serious, gonna go to bed now, probably will watch the rest tomorrow.


This is so bad.

edit: This is basically everything that went wrong with action cinema in the last ~15 years. Seriously, fuck this shit.
If you like this, you like "the fast and the furious" and no, there is no excuse known to man for this.
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