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On June 23 2014 11:59 Reason wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2014 10:27 Yoav wrote:On June 22 2014 08:04 Mataza wrote:
I wouldn't say that Petyr Baelish has no ability to improve his standing to the point where he can legitimately sit on the throne.
His way would most likely be "no one dares to oppose him" Is real history a spoiler? + Show Spoiler +
Well, he's got to do two things: get titles/supporters, and get real popular support. The closest guy I'm aware of to Baelish in English history was Richard Neville of Warwick. Noble, unlike Baelish, but fairly minor until the war started (depending on who you ask, he may have been the guy who started the wars of the roses). Switched sides in the war several times, every time with a mind to increasing his own power. Gained tremendous popular support by being charming and charismatic. Maneuvered to become the richest and most powerful man in the kingdom. Used it to raise several rebellions when it suited him. He ended up king in all but name; but that was enough. He had the real king imprisoned and submissive, but the fact of the true king's survival meant that others were able to rally and eventually drive him from the capital.
Yes, real history is a spoiler. Requesting ban please.
A ban is not enough, requesting he takes the black!
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On June 24 2014 22:10 Flyingdutchman wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 11:59 Reason wrote:On June 22 2014 10:27 Yoav wrote:On June 22 2014 08:04 Mataza wrote:
I wouldn't say that Petyr Baelish has no ability to improve his standing to the point where he can legitimately sit on the throne.
His way would most likely be "no one dares to oppose him" Is real history a spoiler? + Show Spoiler +
Well, he's got to do two things: get titles/supporters, and get real popular support. The closest guy I'm aware of to Baelish in English history was Richard Neville of Warwick. Noble, unlike Baelish, but fairly minor until the war started (depending on who you ask, he may have been the guy who started the wars of the roses). Switched sides in the war several times, every time with a mind to increasing his own power. Gained tremendous popular support by being charming and charismatic. Maneuvered to become the richest and most powerful man in the kingdom. Used it to raise several rebellions when it suited him. He ended up king in all but name; but that was enough. He had the real king imprisoned and submissive, but the fact of the true king's survival meant that others were able to rally and eventually drive him from the capital.
Yes, real history is a spoiler. Requesting ban please. A ban is not enough, requesting he takes the black!
I am a bit more soft than you. I think we can give him the option of choosing between the black or getting his hand cut off.
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On June 24 2014 22:25 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 22:10 Flyingdutchman wrote:On June 23 2014 11:59 Reason wrote:On June 22 2014 10:27 Yoav wrote:On June 22 2014 08:04 Mataza wrote:
I wouldn't say that Petyr Baelish has no ability to improve his standing to the point where he can legitimately sit on the throne.
His way would most likely be "no one dares to oppose him" Is real history a spoiler? + Show Spoiler +
Well, he's got to do two things: get titles/supporters, and get real popular support. The closest guy I'm aware of to Baelish in English history was Richard Neville of Warwick. Noble, unlike Baelish, but fairly minor until the war started (depending on who you ask, he may have been the guy who started the wars of the roses). Switched sides in the war several times, every time with a mind to increasing his own power. Gained tremendous popular support by being charming and charismatic. Maneuvered to become the richest and most powerful man in the kingdom. Used it to raise several rebellions when it suited him. He ended up king in all but name; but that was enough. He had the real king imprisoned and submissive, but the fact of the true king's survival meant that others were able to rally and eventually drive him from the capital.
Yes, real history is a spoiler. Requesting ban please. A ban is not enough, requesting he takes the black! I am a bit more soft than you. I think we can give him the option of choosing between the black or getting his hand cut off.
It should be a choice between tongue and fingers.
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On June 23 2014 23:15 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 23:06 Fighter wrote:On June 23 2014 20:33 Zandar wrote:On June 22 2014 02:35 TMG26 wrote:
BALON GREYJOY WILL RAID ALL OF WESTEROS AND THEN SIT ON THE IRON THRONE! I remember a 3rd leech What is this leech you speak of When Gendry had some sexytime with Melisandra she used 3 leeches to drain some kings blood from him HIS DICK and then Stannis burned them saying 3 names: Joffrey, Robb Stark and Balon Greyjoy.
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i don't remember what happened to gendry ? is he dead ? i guess so since i have'nt seen him in a long time.
please tell me the last episode in which we saw him 
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On June 25 2014 00:16 derc wrote:i don't remember what happened to gendry ? is he dead ? i guess so since i have'nt seen him in a long time. please tell me the last episode in which we saw him
He is obviously still rowing that boat.
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On June 25 2014 00:16 derc wrote:i don't remember what happened to gendry ? is he dead ? i guess so since i have'nt seen him in a long time. please tell me the last episode in which we saw him
My guess is he is done in the story. His only significant factor was that he was Robert's bastard, but I don't really see him coming to power or anything, and he has already been used for the king's blood magic stuff so there doesn't seem much left for him to do. Unless he meets up with Arya again at some point, but he was headed back to KL and Arya was headed to Bravos right? Not sure of the geography but I suppose they could pass by each other on the sea?
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On June 25 2014 00:29 Chewbacca. wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 00:16 derc wrote:i don't remember what happened to gendry ? is he dead ? i guess so since i have'nt seen him in a long time. please tell me the last episode in which we saw him My guess is he is done in the story. His only significant factor was that he was Robert's bastard, but I don't really see him coming to power or anything, and he has already been used for the king's blood magic stuff so there doesn't seem much left for him to do. Unless he meets up with Arya again at some point, but he was headed back to KL and Arya was headed to Bravos right? Not sure of the geography but I suppose they could pass by each other on the sea?
didn't they love each other?
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On June 25 2014 01:17 Frolossus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 00:29 Chewbacca. wrote:On June 25 2014 00:16 derc wrote:i don't remember what happened to gendry ? is he dead ? i guess so since i have'nt seen him in a long time. please tell me the last episode in which we saw him My guess is he is done in the story. His only significant factor was that he was Robert's bastard, but I don't really see him coming to power or anything, and he has already been used for the king's blood magic stuff so there doesn't seem much left for him to do. Unless he meets up with Arya again at some point, but he was headed back to KL and Arya was headed to Bravos right? Not sure of the geography but I suppose they could pass by each other on the sea? didn't they love each other?
I don't think so...Arya is like 8 or 10 yo
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On June 23 2014 13:52 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2014 08:13 Frolossus wrote:
i find it amazing that little finger hasn't pissed off someone more powerful enough to get himself killed at this point. He did when he acused Tyrion Lannister of being the one behind the assasination attempt on bran. Cat told tyrion of these accusations and why Tyrion, now coming to the capitol as the acting hand of the king never did anything about it remains the biggest plothole in the series.
I can't remember Tyrion ever finding out who told Catelyn Stark that he was trying to murder Bran.
Did that happen in the show?
Asa far as I remember Tyrion never even gets properly told what his crime is, that's why he begins confessing childhood pranks in his trial.
Then he demands trial by Mortal Kombat, Bronn finishes Ser Vardis, and then they leave the Eyrie and get captured by the hill tribes.
If anyone told him Littlefinger put the blame on him, then it was in King's Landing. And there it is Cersei, Varys and Littlefinger who could tell him about that.
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On June 25 2014 01:19 Titusmaster6 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 01:17 Frolossus wrote:On June 25 2014 00:29 Chewbacca. wrote:On June 25 2014 00:16 derc wrote:i don't remember what happened to gendry ? is he dead ? i guess so since i have'nt seen him in a long time. please tell me the last episode in which we saw him My guess is he is done in the story. His only significant factor was that he was Robert's bastard, but I don't really see him coming to power or anything, and he has already been used for the king's blood magic stuff so there doesn't seem much left for him to do. Unless he meets up with Arya again at some point, but he was headed back to KL and Arya was headed to Bravos right? Not sure of the geography but I suppose they could pass by each other on the sea? didn't they love each other? I don't think so...Arya is like 8 or 10 yo
there was that whole conversation from gendry about how arya would be his lady or something
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On June 25 2014 02:34 Frolossus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 01:19 Titusmaster6 wrote:On June 25 2014 01:17 Frolossus wrote:On June 25 2014 00:29 Chewbacca. wrote:On June 25 2014 00:16 derc wrote:i don't remember what happened to gendry ? is he dead ? i guess so since i have'nt seen him in a long time. please tell me the last episode in which we saw him My guess is he is done in the story. His only significant factor was that he was Robert's !@#$%^&*, but I don't really see him coming to power or anything, and he has already been used for the king's blood magic stuff so there doesn't seem much left for him to do. Unless he meets up with Arya again at some point, but he was headed back to KL and Arya was headed to Bravos right? Not sure of the geography but I suppose they could pass by each other on the sea? didn't they love each other? I don't think so...Arya is like 8 or 10 yo there was that whole conversation from gendry about how arya would be his lady or something
I think Sansa is 13 when the show starts and then is 14 by S3. Arya is I think 12 when the show starts and prob 13 by now. Everyone is just older than in the books.
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On June 25 2014 03:22 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 02:34 Frolossus wrote:On June 25 2014 01:19 Titusmaster6 wrote:On June 25 2014 01:17 Frolossus wrote:On June 25 2014 00:29 Chewbacca. wrote:On June 25 2014 00:16 derc wrote:i don't remember what happened to gendry ? is he dead ? i guess so since i have'nt seen him in a long time. please tell me the last episode in which we saw him My guess is he is done in the story. His only significant factor was that he was Robert's !@#$%^&*, but I don't really see him coming to power or anything, and he has already been used for the king's blood magic stuff so there doesn't seem much left for him to do. Unless he meets up with Arya again at some point, but he was headed back to KL and Arya was headed to Bravos right? Not sure of the geography but I suppose they could pass by each other on the sea? didn't they love each other? I don't think so...Arya is like 8 or 10 yo there was that whole conversation from gendry about how arya would be his lady or something I think Sansa is 13 when the show starts and then is 14 by S3. Arya is I think 12 when the show starts and prob 13 by now. Everyone is just older than in the books.
Oh ya well 13 is def old enuf then
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On June 25 2014 02:34 Frolossus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 01:19 Titusmaster6 wrote:On June 25 2014 01:17 Frolossus wrote:On June 25 2014 00:29 Chewbacca. wrote:On June 25 2014 00:16 derc wrote:i don't remember what happened to gendry ? is he dead ? i guess so since i have'nt seen him in a long time. please tell me the last episode in which we saw him My guess is he is done in the story. His only significant factor was that he was Robert's bastard, but I don't really see him coming to power or anything, and he has already been used for the king's blood magic stuff so there doesn't seem much left for him to do. Unless he meets up with Arya again at some point, but he was headed back to KL and Arya was headed to Bravos right? Not sure of the geography but I suppose they could pass by each other on the sea? didn't they love each other? I don't think so...Arya is like 8 or 10 yo there was that whole conversation from gendry about how arya would be his lady or something
I think he said "my lady" as in "my lord / my lady". Arya would be his social superior, not his lover.
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On June 25 2014 02:30 Mataza wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 13:52 sc2holar wrote:On June 22 2014 08:13 Frolossus wrote:
i find it amazing that little finger hasn't pissed off someone more powerful enough to get himself killed at this point. He did when he acused Tyrion Lannister of being the one behind the assasination attempt on bran. Cat told tyrion of these accusations and why Tyrion, now coming to the capitol as the acting hand of the king never did anything about it remains the biggest plothole in the series. I can't remember Tyrion ever finding out who told Catelyn Stark that he was trying to murder Bran. Did that happen in the show? Asa far as I remember Tyrion never even gets properly told what his crime is, that's why he begins confessing childhood pranks in his trial. Then he demands trial by Mortal Kombat, Bronn finishes Ser Vardis, and then they leave the Eyrie and get captured by the hill tribes. If anyone told him Littlefinger put the blame on him, then it was in King's Landing. And there it is Cersei, Varys and Littlefinger who could tell him about that.
Littlefinger told Catelyn that the dagger the would-be Bran assassin used was Tyrion's, and I remember Tyrion saying that it's stupid to count that as evidence because he wouldn't give an assassin his personal dagger everybody can link to him. So he knew what he was accused of, and he knew why. He might not have known how Catelyn knew it was his dagger, but since it in fact was, that doesn't really matter. What matters is who gave it to the assassin.
And that must have been Cersei, right? Jaime probably wouldn't have framed Tyrion. And now that you say it, I agree, Tyrion should have asked questions about how the assassin got his dagger ...
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On June 25 2014 03:54 JonnyBNoHo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 02:34 Frolossus wrote:On June 25 2014 01:19 Titusmaster6 wrote:On June 25 2014 01:17 Frolossus wrote:On June 25 2014 00:29 Chewbacca. wrote:On June 25 2014 00:16 derc wrote:i don't remember what happened to gendry ? is he dead ? i guess so since i have'nt seen him in a long time. please tell me the last episode in which we saw him My guess is he is done in the story. His only significant factor was that he was Robert's bastard, but I don't really see him coming to power or anything, and he has already been used for the king's blood magic stuff so there doesn't seem much left for him to do. Unless he meets up with Arya again at some point, but he was headed back to KL and Arya was headed to Bravos right? Not sure of the geography but I suppose they could pass by each other on the sea? didn't they love each other? I don't think so...Arya is like 8 or 10 yo there was that whole conversation from gendry about how arya would be his lady or something I think he said "my lady" as in "my lord / my lady". Arya would be his social superior, not his lover.
Now that's an awkward misunderstanding ...
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Lol Arya never gonna want to get with Gendry if she finds out that he got his dick wet from her.
Keep it on a the DL yo.
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On June 25 2014 03:22 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 02:34 Frolossus wrote:On June 25 2014 01:19 Titusmaster6 wrote:On June 25 2014 01:17 Frolossus wrote:On June 25 2014 00:29 Chewbacca. wrote:On June 25 2014 00:16 derc wrote:i don't remember what happened to gendry ? is he dead ? i guess so since i have'nt seen him in a long time. please tell me the last episode in which we saw him My guess is he is done in the story. His only significant factor was that he was Robert's !@#$%^&*, but I don't really see him coming to power or anything, and he has already been used for the king's blood magic stuff so there doesn't seem much left for him to do. Unless he meets up with Arya again at some point, but he was headed back to KL and Arya was headed to Bravos right? Not sure of the geography but I suppose they could pass by each other on the sea? didn't they love each other? I don't think so...Arya is like 8 or 10 yo there was that whole conversation from gendry about how arya would be his lady or something I think Sansa is 13 when the show starts and then is 14 by S3. Arya is I think 12 when the show starts and prob 13 by now. Everyone is just older than in the books.
she is 9
her sister is 13.
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On June 25 2014 07:41 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 03:22 Hider wrote:On June 25 2014 02:34 Frolossus wrote:On June 25 2014 01:19 Titusmaster6 wrote:On June 25 2014 01:17 Frolossus wrote:On June 25 2014 00:29 Chewbacca. wrote:On June 25 2014 00:16 derc wrote:i don't remember what happened to gendry ? is he dead ? i guess so since i have'nt seen him in a long time. please tell me the last episode in which we saw him My guess is he is done in the story. His only significant factor was that he was Robert's !@#$%^&*, but I don't really see him coming to power or anything, and he has already been used for the king's blood magic stuff so there doesn't seem much left for him to do. Unless he meets up with Arya again at some point, but he was headed back to KL and Arya was headed to Bravos right? Not sure of the geography but I suppose they could pass by each other on the sea? didn't they love each other? I don't think so...Arya is like 8 or 10 yo there was that whole conversation from gendry about how arya would be his lady or something I think Sansa is 13 when the show starts and then is 14 by S3. Arya is I think 12 when the show starts and prob 13 by now. Everyone is just older than in the books. she is 9 her sister is 13.
According to the Game of Thrones wiki, Arya is 14 by Season 4, and Sansa is 15-16 by Season 4. Not linking it because the wiki sometimes has book stuff in it.
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On June 25 2014 08:32 Conti wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 07:41 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:On June 25 2014 03:22 Hider wrote:On June 25 2014 02:34 Frolossus wrote:On June 25 2014 01:19 Titusmaster6 wrote:On June 25 2014 01:17 Frolossus wrote:On June 25 2014 00:29 Chewbacca. wrote:On June 25 2014 00:16 derc wrote:i don't remember what happened to gendry ? is he dead ? i guess so since i have'nt seen him in a long time. please tell me the last episode in which we saw him My guess is he is done in the story. His only significant factor was that he was Robert's !@#$%^&*, but I don't really see him coming to power or anything, and he has already been used for the king's blood magic stuff so there doesn't seem much left for him to do. Unless he meets up with Arya again at some point, but he was headed back to KL and Arya was headed to Bravos right? Not sure of the geography but I suppose they could pass by each other on the sea? didn't they love each other? I don't think so...Arya is like 8 or 10 yo there was that whole conversation from gendry about how arya would be his lady or something I think Sansa is 13 when the show starts and then is 14 by S3. Arya is I think 12 when the show starts and prob 13 by now. Everyone is just older than in the books. she is 9 her sister is 13. According to the Game of Thrones wiki, Arya is 14 by Season 4, and Sansa is 15-16 by Season 4. Not linking it because the wiki sometimes has book stuff in it. We are talking about how old the characters are in the show, dear book readers.
I wouldn't talk shit to Hercules.
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