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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
June 13 2014 11:36 GMT
#25121
Who's the third mad queen?

Margaery is legit.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-13 11:40:02
June 13 2014 11:39 GMT
#25122
On June 13 2014 19:46 obesechicken13 wrote:
Thinking about it more, why doesn't the throne go to Stannis if Tommon dies? Women generally didn't rule in our Medieval age aside from some notable figures like Queen Elizabeth.


the throne would go to stannis because he would be the last male heir of the baratheon line.
Fi0na
Profile Joined February 2014
0 Posts
June 13 2014 11:40 GMT
#25123
On June 13 2014 20:36 Talin wrote:
Who's the third mad queen?

Margaery is legit.


I thought it was redhead in the bath tub
Life is not fair. But that's what chocolate is for.
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
June 13 2014 11:42 GMT
#25124
On June 13 2014 20:39 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 19:46 obesechicken13 wrote:
Thinking about it more, why doesn't the throne go to Stannis if Tommon dies? Women generally didn't rule in our Medieval age aside from some notable figures like Queen Elizabeth.


the throne would go to stannis because he would be the last male heir of the baratheon line.

The true king Stannis. I'd love to see how he pays up the iron bank if he gets back on the throne. He may even lose because of the iron bank.
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
June 13 2014 14:39 GMT
#25125
Poll: How excited are you about the finale?

Fairly Indifferent (8)
 
15%

Mildly Aroused (8)
 
15%

Markedly Excited (20)
 
36%

Overly Ecstatic (19)
 
35%

55 total votes

Your vote: How excited are you about the finale?

(Vote): Fairly Indifferent
(Vote): Mildly Aroused
(Vote): Markedly Excited
(Vote): Overly Ecstatic

QuixoticO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands810 Posts
June 13 2014 14:44 GMT
#25126
On June 13 2014 20:42 EnumaAvalon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 20:39 Skilledblob wrote:
On June 13 2014 19:46 obesechicken13 wrote:
Thinking about it more, why doesn't the throne go to Stannis if Tommon dies? Women generally didn't rule in our Medieval age aside from some notable figures like Queen Elizabeth.


the throne would go to stannis because he would be the last male heir of the baratheon line.

The true king Stannis. I'd love to see how he pays up the iron bank if he gets back on the throne. He may even lose because of the iron bank.


I'd like to see this happen and then the iron bank puts Dany on the throne to unite west and east against the White Walker invasion.
"Suum Cuique" - Cicero
Dunmer
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom568 Posts
June 13 2014 16:05 GMT
#25127
Why would the east unite under dany? So far she owns one city, a city of slaves no less. Sure she has a big army but if you look at a map of essos you will see that there are plenty of lands that could oppose her if they truly wished. She is also incredibly far away from westeros. Maybe by the time she walked to the narrow sea her dragons would be fully grown and armies would never oppose her then, but the cities she leaves will just go back to doing what they want since she is so far away and the slave masters have already shown that they will do so when she leaves for the next city.
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Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9447 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-13 16:29:54
June 13 2014 16:29 GMT
#25128
On June 14 2014 01:05 Dunmer wrote:
Why would the east unite under dany? So far she owns one city, a city of slaves no less. Sure she has a big army but if you look at a map of essos you will see that there are plenty of lands that could oppose her if they truly wished. She is also incredibly far away from westeros. Maybe by the time she walked to the narrow sea her dragons would be fully grown and armies would never oppose her then, but the cities she leaves will just go back to doing what they want since she is so far away and the slave masters have already shown that they will do so when she leaves for the next city.


Yeh, I don't see her conquering Westeros any time soon. Her story has unfortunately become quite boring. Not that it ever was really fun, but at least some interesting stuff happened in S1-S3. This season it was just a giant meh......
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
June 13 2014 16:43 GMT
#25129
On June 13 2014 09:03 obesechicken13 wrote:
I don't think Jon Snow has plot armor tbh. Ned Stark didn't. They can always advance the plot however they like. Dany is the only one with plot armor as far as I can tell.



Jon Snow has plot armor.

Don't compare him to Ned, Ned is the guardian, the father, kinda like Dumble or Gandalf, it's normal for those characters to die, to make the heros' quest harder, and to develop the heros.

Jon is one of the main Chars, and is the MC of the Wall, the only relevant Char up there besides him is Bran, which has a totally different role it seems, more connected to the warging magic or wtv.

So, i believe if Jon has to eventually die, it has to be somewhat relevant to Bran's plot. Dying to wildings is completely irrelevant to wtv Bran is doing. So Jon has plot armor for now, when the White Walkers comes, who knows.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Acertos
Profile Joined February 2012
France852 Posts
June 13 2014 17:29 GMT
#25130
On June 14 2014 01:43 TMG26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 09:03 obesechicken13 wrote:
I don't think Jon Snow has plot armor tbh. Ned Stark didn't. They can always advance the plot however they like. Dany is the only one with plot armor as far as I can tell.



Jon Snow has plot armor.

Don't compare him to Ned, Ned is the guardian, the father, kinda like Dumble or Gandalf, it's normal for those characters to die, to make the heros' quest harder, and to develop the heros.

Jon is one of the main Chars, and is the MC of the Wall, the only relevant Char up there besides him is Bran, which has a totally different role it seems, more connected to the warging magic or wtv.

So, i believe if Jon has to eventually die, it has to be somewhat relevant to Bran's plot. Dying to wildings is completely irrelevant to wtv Bran is doing. So Jon has plot armor for now, when the White Walkers comes, who knows.

Jon Snow becomes some kind of death knight for the white walkers and Brann has to kill him.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
June 13 2014 17:37 GMT
#25131
On June 14 2014 02:29 Acertos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 01:43 TMG26 wrote:
On June 13 2014 09:03 obesechicken13 wrote:
I don't think Jon Snow has plot armor tbh. Ned Stark didn't. They can always advance the plot however they like. Dany is the only one with plot armor as far as I can tell.



Jon Snow has plot armor.

Don't compare him to Ned, Ned is the guardian, the father, kinda like Dumble or Gandalf, it's normal for those characters to die, to make the heros' quest harder, and to develop the heros.

Jon is one of the main Chars, and is the MC of the Wall, the only relevant Char up there besides him is Bran, which has a totally different role it seems, more connected to the warging magic or wtv.

So, i believe if Jon has to eventually die, it has to be somewhat relevant to Bran's plot. Dying to wildings is completely irrelevant to wtv Bran is doing. So Jon has plot armor for now, when the White Walkers comes, who knows.

Jon Snow becomes some kind of death knight for the white walkers and Brann has to kill him.


Cripple vs death knight, doesn't seem like a balanced matchup
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 13 2014 17:52 GMT
#25132
On June 13 2014 20:40 Fi0na wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 20:36 Talin wrote:
Who's the third mad queen?

Margaery is legit.


I thought it was redhead in the bath tub


Stannis' wife
Cersei
Dany

3 mad queens.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
June 13 2014 18:37 GMT
#25133
It would be funny if Sam would somehow actually become a wizard.
He is the second most important character at the wall, although it just shows how much more important Jon is.
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JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
June 13 2014 19:19 GMT
#25134
Chart of the year

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Link
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-13 19:36:22
June 13 2014 19:35 GMT
#25135
On June 14 2014 02:29 Acertos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 01:43 TMG26 wrote:
On June 13 2014 09:03 obesechicken13 wrote:
I don't think Jon Snow has plot armor tbh. Ned Stark didn't. They can always advance the plot however they like. Dany is the only one with plot armor as far as I can tell.



Jon Snow has plot armor.

Don't compare him to Ned, Ned is the guardian, the father, kinda like Dumble or Gandalf, it's normal for those characters to die, to make the heros' quest harder, and to develop the heros.

Jon is one of the main Chars, and is the MC of the Wall, the only relevant Char up there besides him is Bran, which has a totally different role it seems, more connected to the warging magic or wtv.

So, i believe if Jon has to eventually die, it has to be somewhat relevant to Bran's plot. Dying to wildings is completely irrelevant to wtv Bran is doing. So Jon has plot armor for now, when the White Walkers comes, who knows.

Jon Snow becomes some kind of death knight for the white walkers and Brann has to kill him.

You guys are funny .. Bran could just be hallucinating on the quest for the north shit and he will die while on the journey from some wilding or whitewalker or just Hodor going berserk lol.

It's GRR Martin i stopped believing plot-armor quite a while now.


On June 14 2014 04:19 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
Chart of the year

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Link


I like how accurate this is.
this is a quote
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
June 13 2014 20:36 GMT
#25136
On June 14 2014 04:35 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 02:29 Acertos wrote:
On June 14 2014 01:43 TMG26 wrote:
On June 13 2014 09:03 obesechicken13 wrote:
I don't think Jon Snow has plot armor tbh. Ned Stark didn't. They can always advance the plot however they like. Dany is the only one with plot armor as far as I can tell.



Jon Snow has plot armor.

Don't compare him to Ned, Ned is the guardian, the father, kinda like Dumble or Gandalf, it's normal for those characters to die, to make the heros' quest harder, and to develop the heros.

Jon is one of the main Chars, and is the MC of the Wall, the only relevant Char up there besides him is Bran, which has a totally different role it seems, more connected to the warging magic or wtv.

So, i believe if Jon has to eventually die, it has to be somewhat relevant to Bran's plot. Dying to wildings is completely irrelevant to wtv Bran is doing. So Jon has plot armor for now, when the White Walkers comes, who knows.

Jon Snow becomes some kind of death knight for the white walkers and Brann has to kill him.

You guys are funny .. Bran could just be hallucinating on the quest for the north shit and he will die while on the journey from some wilding or whitewalker or just Hodor going berserk lol.

It's GRR Martin i stopped believing plot-armor quite a while now.




If you trully believe there is no plot armor, you did not payed attention to the show.

You guys must remember that this show as a really huge amounts of characters, it's not your typical TV show. How many ACTUAL MC do we have? and how many of them died? Ned, Cat and Rob were pretty much the only relevant deaths, and as I said before, Ned role is more of the Guardian/Father, then the hero role, so we can probably count him out.

With this, the only out of ordinary deaths were the ones at the Red Wedding. And Tyrion if he dies, He is one of the characters that i would appoint as one the "heros" of the series.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
June 13 2014 21:06 GMT
#25137
The only characters I see with plot armor at this point is Arya whose story we haven't even gotten to see yet. If the wildlings make it past the wall I see no reason for Jon to still be around.
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
June 13 2014 21:26 GMT
#25138
On June 14 2014 06:06 Itsmedudeman wrote:
The only characters I see with plot armor at this point is Arya whose story we haven't even gotten to see yet. If the wildlings make it past the wall I see no reason for Jon to still be around.



sansa has been developing as a stupid little girl for 3 seasons now. All that development isn't going to be wasted into a death. Same with dany, she has been marching for 4 seasons and all we have really seen in her story line is her dragons got bigger, and shes got a huge army. Jon snow same deal, he knows nothing, so clearly he needs to learn something. Arya is building up to be some legendary fighter. Bran, is building up to be some legendary wizard. Even theon has plot armor, unless GRRM is a sick fuck who would torture and dehumanize a character so much and then just kill him for no reason, I think he deserves a comeback the most. Basically some characters just have too much potential to just be killed off, atleast for the moment imo.
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fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
June 13 2014 22:45 GMT
#25139
On June 14 2014 04:19 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
Chart of the year

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Link


You forgot to insert the part where Jon knows what to do with his tongue
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-13 23:09:55
June 13 2014 23:08 GMT
#25140
I think Jon has only medium plot armor at this point. Before the fight in last episode it was really major, but now not so much.

Arya obviously has strong plot armor, as does Danerys and Bran.
In my opinion:
Melisandre seems to have clearly strong plot armor as well.
Tyrion and Jamie both seem to have medium plot armor for the moment; but that's maybe just more my prediction than actual plot armor.
Theon has minor plot armor just because it seems strange to follow him if something more meaningful didn't happen with him.
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
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