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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
April 24 2014 21:27 GMT
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urboss
Austria1223 Posts
April 24 2014 21:30 GMT
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Excludos
Norway7690 Posts
April 24 2014 21:31 GMT
#22143
On April 25 2014 06:27 ZAiNs wrote: Wow this page is scary. Not clicking on this thread ever again. - Previous page now I guess. If you're thinking about the spoilers: As long as you don't click on the latest page you should be good. The mods are very quick. | ||
Assault_1
Canada1950 Posts
April 25 2014 01:04 GMT
#22144
On April 23 2014 15:36 KwarK wrote: Show nested quote + On April 23 2014 15:23 CatfooD wrote: On April 23 2014 14:10 KwarK wrote: On April 23 2014 14:07 ixi.genocide wrote: I think I would be Robert Baratheons legitimate son. Not sure where he is at atm, but he has potential claim to all of westeros, and to the baratheon kingdom at the least. If you mean Gendry, that's one of his bastards and there's no guarantee that he's even the eldest of them, Robert got around. But illegitimate sons have no claim, no name, no place in line. The line of Baratheon is Stannis, then his daughter, then presumably his cousins on his father's side. Who has better claim to the throne KwarK, Danaerys or Stannis? Did Robert's conquest override Aerys' line of succession since I believe it is considered a "legitimate" way to claim the throne, although rebelling against one's king is not? Whichever can take it, hold it and convince anyone to follow them. Having the right blood is a big part of the convincing and Gendry's blood is as wrong as any. howcome Kwark posts in this thread if he's read the books? :S | ||
jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
April 25 2014 01:11 GMT
#22145
On April 25 2014 10:04 Assault_1 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 23 2014 15:36 KwarK wrote: On April 23 2014 15:23 CatfooD wrote: On April 23 2014 14:10 KwarK wrote: On April 23 2014 14:07 ixi.genocide wrote: I think I would be Robert Baratheons legitimate son. Not sure where he is at atm, but he has potential claim to all of westeros, and to the baratheon kingdom at the least. If you mean Gendry, that's one of his bastards and there's no guarantee that he's even the eldest of them, Robert got around. But illegitimate sons have no claim, no name, no place in line. The line of Baratheon is Stannis, then his daughter, then presumably his cousins on his father's side. Who has better claim to the throne KwarK, Danaerys or Stannis? Did Robert's conquest override Aerys' line of succession since I believe it is considered a "legitimate" way to claim the throne, although rebelling against one's king is not? Whichever can take it, hold it and convince anyone to follow them. Having the right blood is a big part of the convincing and Gendry's blood is as wrong as any. howcome Kwark posts in this thread if he's read the books? :S to answer questions and clarify some information? (based on show of course) there's no harm in helping out with some details i've been wondering since how GRRM likes to kill stuff Poll: At least one dragon will die Yes (27) No (6) 33 total votes Your vote: At least one dragon will die | ||
KwarK
United States40790 Posts
April 25 2014 02:00 GMT
#22146
On April 25 2014 10:04 Assault_1 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 23 2014 15:36 KwarK wrote: On April 23 2014 15:23 CatfooD wrote: On April 23 2014 14:10 KwarK wrote: On April 23 2014 14:07 ixi.genocide wrote: I think I would be Robert Baratheons legitimate son. Not sure where he is at atm, but he has potential claim to all of westeros, and to the baratheon kingdom at the least. If you mean Gendry, that's one of his bastards and there's no guarantee that he's even the eldest of them, Robert got around. But illegitimate sons have no claim, no name, no place in line. The line of Baratheon is Stannis, then his daughter, then presumably his cousins on his father's side. Who has better claim to the throne KwarK, Danaerys or Stannis? Did Robert's conquest override Aerys' line of succession since I believe it is considered a "legitimate" way to claim the throne, although rebelling against one's king is not? Whichever can take it, hold it and convince anyone to follow them. Having the right blood is a big part of the convincing and Gendry's blood is as wrong as any. howcome Kwark posts in this thread if he's read the books? :S Because I trust myself to know where the line is drawn. If anyone disagrees then let me know and I'll stop. | ||
Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
April 25 2014 05:53 GMT
#22147
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KwarK
United States40790 Posts
April 25 2014 05:59 GMT
#22148
On April 25 2014 14:53 Shock710 wrote: when the onion knight was talking about the iron bank thing i thought he was gonna like steal a barge (thats a ship right?) and that each of their barges was like a million coins or something. So being the pirate/smuggler he is seems like a nice way to get some money for stanis, tho then i dont know how the letter to the iron bank would work | ||
Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
April 25 2014 06:08 GMT
#22149
So u would think the ironbank would just stick with tywin (he did just crush the north and beat back stanis) | ||
Whole
United States6046 Posts
April 25 2014 06:14 GMT
#22150
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albis
United States652 Posts
April 25 2014 07:47 GMT
#22151
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urboss
Austria1223 Posts
April 25 2014 08:40 GMT
#22152
On April 24 2014 21:56 c0ldfusion wrote: Show nested quote + On April 24 2014 17:35 Emnjay808 wrote: On April 24 2014 17:28 kamicom wrote: Can someone explain to a dumb ass like me what Ser Davos' epiphany was when he was telling Stannis' daughter about the difference between smugglers and pirates? I think something like the 7 Kingdoms is in debt to the Ironbank by several millions of gold. So they would be more likely to aid Stannis in defeating them. Theyre basically looking to hire mercenaries to fight the war for them now. Is there a precedence for this in medieval times? I know GRRM bases many elements of his story on actual historical events. I don't know.. the economics of this sounds very modern to me. The biggest bank in the 15th century was the Bank of the House of Medici. I believe there is some resemblance to the Iron Bank of Braavos. The Medici were the wealthiest family in Europe and also had political influence: banchi grossi (great banks): the largest financial institutions in 15th century Florence. They were the major movers and shakers in the European economy. They had vast accumulations of capital, multi-generational projects, and were a mainstay of the Florentine economy, because not only did they deal in time deposits, demand deposits, and discretionary deposits, they expended most of their efforts in funneling their capital into commerce and bills of exchange. Such bills could be a hidden and legal method to create loans bearing interest. The Medici Bank was such a bank. " However, I don't think that monarchial governments were dependent on banks so much back then. The first Central Banks were established much later in the 17th century. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_banking http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medici_Bank | ||
tekos44
France280 Posts
April 25 2014 11:27 GMT
#22153
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Sejanus
Lithuania550 Posts
April 25 2014 13:57 GMT
#22154
He's overacting a lot, especially with his unnatural pronunciation, like he's in a Shakespearean play. I know the guy is a really good actor, and I know that the directors certainly don't tell any other actor to overact like that.. but for some reason Littlefinger sticks out with his over-the-top mysterious-guy-act. Maybe it's Littlefingers way to impress teenager Sansa? Or anyone, for that matter? I know people in real life who are "overacting" even more. | ||
Conti
Germany2516 Posts
April 25 2014 14:06 GMT
#22155
On April 25 2014 22:57 Sejanus wrote: Show nested quote + He's overacting a lot, especially with his unnatural pronunciation, like he's in a Shakespearean play. I know the guy is a really good actor, and I know that the directors certainly don't tell any other actor to overact like that.. but for some reason Littlefinger sticks out with his over-the-top mysterious-guy-act. Maybe it's Littlefingers way to impress teenager Sansa? Or anyone, for that matter? I know people in real life who are "overacting" even more. And in real life, those people annoy me just as much. I actually think this is a real possibility, though. Varys is overacting as well, to a point, but to me, that fits his character much better than Littlefinger. Everyone knows Varys is the master of spies and knows everything, so it just fits if he's putting on an act for everyone. It's pretty much expected. Littlefinger, though, is trying to stay out of the spotlight (presumably), so it makes less sense for him to be as mysterious as possible. | ||
udgnim
United States8024 Posts
April 25 2014 18:15 GMT
#22156
LittleFinger right? was he just following orders or did he purposely build up the debt (guess this might be a book spoiler)? before Tyrion got locked up, was he still in charge of the Treasury? | ||
Requizen
United States33802 Posts
April 25 2014 18:19 GMT
#22157
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urboss
Austria1223 Posts
April 25 2014 18:20 GMT
#22158
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Darkhorse
United States23454 Posts
April 25 2014 18:30 GMT
#22159
On April 25 2014 06:11 The_Red_Viper wrote: If Oberyn doesn't get the first place i will be rather disappointed..^^ The part where he put a knife through someone's wrist on a whim makes me wary of sitting next to him at dinner | ||
GreenHorizons
United States21793 Posts
April 25 2014 19:46 GMT
#22160
On April 25 2014 06:30 urboss wrote: Seriously is this even a question. Little finger is going to have good wine, good food , and WHORES! Now I'm not one to pay for sex but I do appreciate a good diner with a great show Though I guess I understand why some the more adventurous TLr's would pick Obe | ||
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