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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 20 2012 07:07 GMT
#4821
Pretty sweet episode. Isaak and Hannah are two of the best characters in a long time.
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Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
November 20 2012 07:28 GMT
#4822
On November 20 2012 15:21 Sanctimonius wrote:
Not if it jeopardises business. Isaac is talking about staying in Miami, despite having already killed a bunch of people, having a man found dead in his apartment and having a police tail, just so he can kill someone in the police department. If that happened he would bring their business dealings in the US to a halt, as police descend on the only suspects they have - the Brotherhood, and their fronts like the strip club. Personal vendettas are fine, not ones against police officers if they know who did it.

I got the impression that Isaac was more of an enforcer than a leader. Would the real leaders of the Brotherhood risk coming across the world to LA for a business trip?


For a loss that personal, yes.

When Dexter looked up the Koshka Brotherhood on his computer at work (same episode where Isaak walks into the trap, I think), it shows Isaak at the top of the "pyramid", indicating that he's the leader.

On November 20 2012 14:40 Avaroth wrote:
For me one of the best parts of the episode was when the cops came to investigate the murder of the assassin guy in Isaak's (Viktor's?) apartment and Isaak said something like "Yes Dex, lets hear what you think" after Debra told Dexter to do his thing. I really enjoyed that scene.

On that note, previously I got the impression that Isaak himself was the leader of the Koshka brotherhood. Now it felt weird that suddenly the "boys in Kiev" want Isaak dead. I would've also thought East European mafia would tolerate personal vendettas better than this.


When the leader is removed, everyone below him gets the chance to move up. Plenty of people would want him dead.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 07:39:27
November 20 2012 07:38 GMT
#4823
I just consider it a plot hole. Not necessarily the fault of the writers but probably just a mis communication with the prop guys. Centrally powered crime groups rarely have top leader coups from the inside. It makes more sense if they've ran the operation as sort of a joint partnership/coucil ran group which is what I felt the writers intended. Unless hes just an upper middle manager for the group.

I had pretty mixed feelings about the episode, I liked the bar scene except for two things. First, the hes gay revelation was kinda boring I wish they had been more clever about developing that bit since it had just been beaten over your head since Isaacs first episode. Secondly theres the whole we could have been friends line that left me cringing, that cliche line needs to die.

Though to be fair not much from this season has been that original.
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
November 20 2012 07:50 GMT
#4824
On November 20 2012 16:38 abominare wrote:
I just consider it a plot hole. Not necessarily the fault of the writers but probably just a mis communication with the prop guys. Centrally powered crime groups rarely have top leader coups from the inside. It makes more sense if they've ran the operation as sort of a joint partnership/coucil ran group which is what I felt the writers intended. Unless hes just an upper middle manager for the group.


Isaac (Isaak?) was the head of their Miami operations, but it was very clear that he was still answering to people in Kiev. It's just like any other corporation... if the senior manager quits or gets axed, the junior managers all start vying for his position. It makes perfect sense that George (I think that's his name, the strip club guy) would be gunning for Isaac.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
Westy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
England808 Posts
November 20 2012 11:39 GMT
#4825
Can someone help me out with something? How does Dexter clean all the blood? Surely stabbing someone in the heart is going to cause a lot of blood to spill, and sure the plastic will stop it getting all over the surface of the room he is in, but then how does he clean it from the plastic and put it in a container without it dripping all over the room once he removes the plastic?
O.Golden_ne
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia204 Posts
November 20 2012 12:12 GMT
#4826
westy i was thinking the exact same thing just now. hmm..
Like a baneling in a mineral line
DMKraft
Profile Joined December 2010
476 Posts
November 20 2012 12:24 GMT
#4827
On November 20 2012 20:39 Westy wrote:
Can someone help me out with something? How does Dexter clean all the blood? Surely stabbing someone in the heart is going to cause a lot of blood to spill, and sure the plastic will stop it getting all over the surface of the room he is in, but then how does he clean it from the plastic and put it in a container without it dripping all over the room once he removes the plastic?


ShamWOW!
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 12:35:24
November 20 2012 12:34 GMT
#4828
Some people need to realize this is not a documentary lol. Its not supposed to be realistic. If we started wondering about stuff like that it would never end. So much else does not work in the "real world".
Off-season = best season
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
November 20 2012 12:35 GMT
#4829
On November 20 2012 20:39 Westy wrote:
Can someone help me out with something? How does Dexter clean all the blood? Surely stabbing someone in the heart is going to cause a lot of blood to spill, and sure the plastic will stop it getting all over the surface of the room he is in, but then how does he clean it from the plastic and put it in a container without it dripping all over the room once he removes the plastic?

he s probably very experienced on the matter of folding up the plastic in a way that liquid doesnt spill over anything, it doesnt sound that complicated tbh. He doesnt have to clean it from the plastic, he dumps the plastic together with the body.

What i aws wondering, if Victor was Isaac's gay-lover, why did he have a hooker in his car?
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LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
November 20 2012 12:41 GMT
#4830
Holy fucking fuck I forgot the thing with La Guerta. So interested to see how that goes, she seems like she's pretty sure Dexter's behind it all now.
Long live the King of Wings
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
November 20 2012 12:41 GMT
#4831
On November 20 2012 21:35 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 20:39 Westy wrote:
Can someone help me out with something? How does Dexter clean all the blood? Surely stabbing someone in the heart is going to cause a lot of blood to spill, and sure the plastic will stop it getting all over the surface of the room he is in, but then how does he clean it from the plastic and put it in a container without it dripping all over the room once he removes the plastic?

he s probably very experienced on the matter of folding up the plastic in a way that liquid doesnt spill over anything, it doesnt sound that complicated tbh. He doesnt have to clean it from the plastic, he dumps the plastic together with the body.

What i aws wondering, if Victor was Isaac's gay-lover, why did he have a hooker in his car?

just because isaac is gay doesn't mean victor is exclusively gay. I'd say that if he's reckless enough to kill people in another country on a whim then sleeping around is probably well within his repotoire
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Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
November 20 2012 12:43 GMT
#4832
On November 20 2012 21:41 LimitSEA wrote:
Holy fucking fuck I forgot the thing with La Guerta. So interested to see how that goes, she seems like she's pretty sure Dexter's behind it all now.


She's going to die probably.
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
November 20 2012 12:45 GMT
#4833
On November 20 2012 21:41 LimitSEA wrote:
Holy fucking fuck I forgot the thing with La Guerta. So interested to see how that goes, she seems like she's pretty sure Dexter's behind it all now.

she's gonna get wrapped up in plastic here pretty soon, and it will really fuck with Deb.
magicbullet
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Singapore163 Posts
November 20 2012 12:46 GMT
#4834
to sidetrack.... how's the season going so far?

I've skipped most of season 6, disappointed by season 5 and the first few episodes of season 6. Now that this thread is buzzing, i would like to know if the series is worth watching again.
In the long run we are all dead - J.M. Keynes
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 12:57:31
November 20 2012 12:50 GMT
#4835
On November 20 2012 21:41 Kiante wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 21:35 Geo.Rion wrote:
On November 20 2012 20:39 Westy wrote:
Can someone help me out with something? How does Dexter clean all the blood? Surely stabbing someone in the heart is going to cause a lot of blood to spill, and sure the plastic will stop it getting all over the surface of the room he is in, but then how does he clean it from the plastic and put it in a container without it dripping all over the room once he removes the plastic?

he s probably very experienced on the matter of folding up the plastic in a way that liquid doesnt spill over anything, it doesnt sound that complicated tbh. He doesnt have to clean it from the plastic, he dumps the plastic together with the body.

What i aws wondering, if Victor was Isaac's gay-lover, why did he have a hooker in his car?

just because isaac is gay doesn't mean victor is exclusively gay. I'd say that if he's reckless enough to kill people in another country on a whim then sleeping around is probably well within his repotoire

the dead hooker in the trunk right? most likely a brotherhood employees who had to die and wasn't there to put out.
he wasn't reckless, he was going to make it out of the country ezpz if it wasn't for dexter. He didn't have a choice, it was kill the cop or spend his life prison. Killing an off duty cop on your way to the airport doesn't strike me as reckless.
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 12:58:11
November 20 2012 12:52 GMT
#4836
On November 20 2012 21:46 magicbullet wrote:
to sidetrack.... how's the season going so far?

I've skipped most of season 6, disappointed by season 5 and the first few episodes of season 6. Now that this thread is buzzing, i would like to know if the series is worth watching again.

honestly i was pretty bored of season 5 and 6, don't even think i watched all the episodes. But this season has been awesome, been watching them as soon as they are out everytime.

Great antagonist, and Yvonne Strahovski is great!
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 20 2012 12:57 GMT
#4837
Dexter's not just going to kill LaGuerta. That is silly.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 20 2012 13:06 GMT
#4838
On November 20 2012 21:57 GolemMadness wrote:
Dexter's not just going to kill LaGuerta. That is silly.

Indeed. he would never do that.
Even with Doakes they found some lame excuse for him to not do it.
Off-season = best season
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
November 20 2012 13:30 GMT
#4839
On November 20 2012 22:06 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 21:57 GolemMadness wrote:
Dexter's not just going to kill LaGuerta. That is silly.

Indeed. he would never do that.
Even with Doakes they found some lame excuse for him to not do it.


The laguerta stuff is probably for the next season. Dexter will fall because of the only thing that protected him so long, his code, since he won't be able to kill Laguerta.
Vegro
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany19 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 13:51:24
November 20 2012 13:49 GMT
#4840
On November 20 2012 20:39 Westy wrote:
Can someone help me out with something? How does Dexter clean all the blood? Surely stabbing someone in the heart is going to cause a lot of blood to spill, and sure the plastic will stop it getting all over the surface of the room he is in, but then how does he clean it from the plastic and put it in a container without it dripping all over the room once he removes the plastic?


This was explained in seasons 2, 3 and 5. First he wraps the room in plastic, then he proceeds to kill the victim. He cuts the victim in pieces. Places the pieces into the bags and then folds the whole room into one (bigger) bag with the last part of the corpse in it. In season 1 he shows how he uses ductape for the sequences between the plastic. Season 2 (lundy) talks about the clean and printless environment. Season 3 he shows it to Miguel what he needs and season 5 he shows Luman what to do and how to kill. Also I guess in season 4? (the one he gets the blackout and hides the body in the boxring) he has all the bags in the practice-thingy. So no blood, no pieces, no evidence. It was all in the bags.

This is 90% Dexter and 10% my mind about this. I hope it helped. (Soory for possibly wrong written names)
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