• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:51
CEST 13:51
KST 20:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection1Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview4[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)7
Community News
StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th77Weekly Cups (May 18-25): MaxPax wins doubles0Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League4Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double1Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2
StarCraft 2
General
TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Changing from 12 to 8 is just asking for StarCraft StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th AllPanelExch com Overview: Registration, Login, an Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Welcome to the External Content forum Mutation # 527 Hell Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ VPN experiences Every Matchup's Top 5 Winrates (all ASLs & KSLs) FlaShFTW vs A.Alm Grudge Match Event Pros React To: ASL S21 Finals
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [BSL22] WB Final & LB Semis - Saturday 21:00 CEST
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
McBoner: A hockey love story 2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Customization Drives Loyalty…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1639 users

What Are You Reading 2017 - Page 9

Forum Index > Media & Entertainment
Post a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 17 Next All
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13407 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-19 00:09:26
May 19 2017 00:09 GMT
#161
[image loading]

The 2017 Donner Prize winner for best book about Canadian politics and political science this year.

Really excited to read it, I have some others on order related to public policy too!

(I am boring)
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2670 Posts
May 23 2017 09:58 GMT
#162
I read Swann's Way by Marcel Proust (C. K. Scott Moncrieff translation with Terrence Kilmartin revision). I managed to get the complete Remembrance of Things Past free from a colleague so that's nice.

Anyway, I'm not sure I can add anything new to this discussion but it's a beautifully written book and incredibly interesting and captures these people in such an amusing way. I've noticed a great many of my character traits appearing in characters which reminds me of a quote I recently dug up from Philip Seymour Hoffman (the exact quote is about the joy of finding something written down, but I think you need the full context).
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18299 Posts
May 23 2017 10:40 GMT
#163
Just finished reading The Dark Forest (Cixin Liu) and was quite disappointed.

+ Show Spoiler +

Firstly, I think his representation of society in the crisis era is quite unrealistic, with the wallfacers' ideas getting torpedoed because they build doomsday devices instead of "ways of winning the war": if MAD is an acceptable strategy for all the world's superpowers why would it not be for war with the Trisolarians?

Secondly, Zhang Behai's "future history" was a stupid and unnecessary reference to Foundation. Foundation works because psychohistory is a bit handwavy, but is the setup for the rest of the story. Meanwhile this book tries to adhere to strict scifi rules, but then throws "future history" in en passant for no real reason.

Finally, it had too many irrelevant plotlines. Especially the 3 chinese neighbours... I still haven't figured out why I should care about them OR their tie-in to Da Shi. But to a certain extent, following the other 3 wallfacers was also just not done in an engaging manner.

In closing, not even close to Three-body Problem quality, although I did like the game theoretic solution to galactic sociology and the Fermi paradox.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-23 15:24:48
May 23 2017 15:24 GMT
#164
On May 23 2017 19:40 Acrofales wrote:
Just finished reading The Dark Forest (Cixin Liu) and was quite disappointed.

[spoiler]
Firstly, I think his representation of society in the crisis era is quite unrealistic, with the wallfacers' ideas getting torpedoed because they build doomsday devices instead of "ways of winning the war": if MAD is an acceptable strategy for all the world's superpowers why would it not be for war with the Trisolarians?

there was also a huge global economic depression that plays into it.


Secondly, Zhang Behai's "future history" was a stupid and unnecessary reference to Foundation. Foundation works because psychohistory is a bit handwavy, but is the setup for the rest of the story. Meanwhile this book tries to adhere to strict scifi rules, but then throws "future history" in en passant for no real reason.

lol, that's what you took reference with, and not the actual explicit reference to Foundation?



book 2 is far better than book 1 tbh. book 1 just got a lot of media attention in the west for the focus on the cultural revolution
TranslatorBaa!
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
May 23 2017 16:59 GMT
#165
I actually really liked the second one, too. Had a lot more humane characters and was my favourite book in the series
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 28 2017 17:14 GMT
#166
Currently reading:
[image loading]


This'll take some time, Wallace is a legend and his breadth is remarkable in being able to even develop such a book that would normally so obtruse to even those of the highest caliber.

Will help for my philo phd apps tho. well maybe
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 28 2017 17:15 GMT
#167
On May 23 2017 18:58 Flicky wrote:
I read Swann's Way by Marcel Proust (C. K. Scott Moncrieff translation with Terrence Kilmartin revision). I managed to get the complete Remembrance of Things Past free from a colleague so that's nice.

Anyway, I'm not sure I can add anything new to this discussion but it's a beautifully written book and incredibly interesting and captures these people in such an amusing way. I've noticed a great many of my character traits appearing in characters which reminds me of a quote I recently dug up from Philip Seymour Hoffman (the exact quote is about the joy of finding something written down, but I think you need the full context).



Good stuff; Next to Nabokov, I've not read a writer whose prose contains the lyricism of Proust.

Maybe some english romantic poets, but even then
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
May 28 2017 19:14 GMT
#168
La Recherche is just my favorite book. Nice you got on the humour Flicky, that's what make reading the other six a walk in the park
Rereading one by one slowly too, having gone through it all once makes it all more amazing, especially Combray, already something incredible in itself.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-02 08:34:21
June 02 2017 08:27 GMT
#169
So, in the Cost of Rights Cass Sunstein says that: "Admittedly, the current economic boom in China suggests that, when suitably integrated into the world economy, a society without a strong court system can use kinship and other informal networks to breed credible commitments even in the absence of reliable judicial enforcement of property rights." (p. 75).

I'm interested in reading more about this system. Does anyone have a recommendation? Kinda of a long shot but worth a try, I guess.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 04 2017 23:50 GMT
#170
On June 02 2017 17:27 dmnum wrote:
So, in the Cost of Rights Cass Sunstein says that: "Admittedly, the current economic boom in China suggests that, when suitably integrated into the world economy, a society without a strong court system can use kinship and other informal networks to breed credible commitments even in the absence of reliable judicial enforcement of property rights." (p. 75).

I'm interested in reading more about this system. Does anyone have a recommendation? Kinda of a long shot but worth a try, I guess.


I was talking to a few people about this quotation and the book Trust by Francis Fukuyama came up.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 05 2017 14:09 GMT
#171
it's just corruption and nepotism
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-05 16:06:31
June 05 2017 16:06 GMT
#172
On June 05 2017 08:50 Jerubaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2017 17:27 dmnum wrote:
So, in the Cost of Rights Cass Sunstein says that: "Admittedly, the current economic boom in China suggests that, when suitably integrated into the world economy, a society without a strong court system can use kinship and other informal networks to breed credible commitments even in the absence of reliable judicial enforcement of property rights." (p. 75).

I'm interested in reading more about this system. Does anyone have a recommendation? Kinda of a long shot but worth a try, I guess.


I was talking to a few people about this quotation and the book Trust by Francis Fukuyama came up.

Reading the synopsis it sounds like what I was looking for. Thanks a bunch.
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
June 06 2017 11:08 GMT
#173
Corruption and nepotism is so deep rooted in China that it often works counter productive. An strong example given was how gas and electric companies worked together to deliberately fuck up eachothers wiring and piping when doing "maintenance" to leech more money from the government. They consider themselves to be quite clever for this.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 06 2017 17:39 GMT
#174
[image loading]
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2670 Posts
June 07 2017 15:36 GMT
#175
Just finished:

Misbehaving by Richard Thaler. A history of behavioural economics. Pretty interesting overall, but lost me during finance chapters (not that interested in those numbers).

The Plague by Albert Camus. I don't think I enjoyed this book as much as I thought I would. It wasn't bad by any means, but it went a different direction to how I thought at the start and sometimes that's enough to mess with me for the duration of a book. Still looking forward to reading more Camus though.
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
June 07 2017 16:17 GMT
#176
Usef to be in love with Camus but never read the Plague front to cover, just 3 of his plays and 3 of his other novels, plus that famous little essay.
I'm really less interested today, but I think the only novel which I still love as much is The Fall.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
June 07 2017 16:48 GMT
#177
The Fall is his best by far.

I like The Plague but I think I like it better as ethico-theological framework than novel, per se.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
June 07 2017 22:03 GMT
#178
x3 for the fall
TranslatorBaa!
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2670 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-16 17:17:34
June 16 2017 17:16 GMT
#179
Letters From a Stoic by Seneca - A collection of letters from Seneca to Luicillius (or just essays) which are full of insights that are so simple that I almost find it tragic to think that I hadn't thought of them myself, some 2000 years after they were written. Seneca is much more human in his thought than Aurelius and his branch of stoicism is much more appealing to me. There's the occasional bizarre idea (he's pretty strongly against people who don't wake up early/in the daytime) but on the whole it's rather great.

Siddhartha by Hermann Hesse - I read this in German and I loved it. Stayed up until the following morning (come at me Seneca) and really enjoyed it. I still find the notion of a book dripping in eastern philosophy being written in German in the 20s slightly odd, but it's a lovely story and a book you could recommend to almost anyone. Some beautiful passages and one has the air of a classic fable. Has slipped into my top books list I think and I'm pretty happy I got through it in German with almost no issue.


Also, will be reading The Fall and The Outsider/Stranger at some point in the future. Three votes for The Fall is something I'm not going to ignore.
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
June 16 2017 20:36 GMT
#180
I like Siddhartha a lot too but the "eastern philosophy as imagined by a Western writer" criticism is quite common, but taken as it is it's a great story. Der Steppenwolf is great too.

Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 17 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Maestros of the Game
11:00
Preliminary Stage
SKillous vs Ryung
Solar vs Percival
Maru vs sOs
Lambo vs ArrogfireLIVE!
ComeBackTV 652
RotterdaM479
Ryung 478
TaKeTV353
Rex111
SteadfastSC103
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 479
Ryung 478
Lowko355
Livibee 166
Rex 111
SteadfastSC 103
EnDerr 11
ProTech6
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 27356
Zeus 630
EffOrt 389
Last 220
hero 167
sorry 79
Liquid`Ret 72
Sexy 42
Sacsri 38
Sea.KH 24
[ Show more ]
zelot 23
Noble 14
Barracks 0
Dota 2
Gorgc1143
Dendi1012
XaKoH 584
XcaliburYe146
Counter-Strike
byalli852
edward106
Heroes of the Storm
MindelVK17
Other Games
singsing2181
B2W.Neo808
Mew2King45
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL268
Other Games
BasetradeTV208
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• iHatsuTV 3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
IPSL
4h 9m
ZZZero vs WorsT
Julia vs eOnzErG
BSL
7h 9m
TerrOr vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs eOnzErG
Replay Cast
12h 9m
RSL Revival
19h 9m
Maestros of the Game
1d 1h
SHIN vs Nicoract
Rogue vs Gerald
ByuN vs Shameless
Cure vs TriGGeR
OSC
1d 1h
IPSL
1d 4h
Dragon vs Artosis
dxtr13 vs Hawk
BSL
1d 7h
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
4 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Maestros of the Game
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Solar vs Classic
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: King of Kings
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

2026 KK StarCraft Pro League
BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
Murky Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026

Upcoming

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #3
Heroes Pulsing #2
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.