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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13406 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-19 00:09:26
May 19 2017 00:09 GMT
#161
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The 2017 Donner Prize winner for best book about Canadian politics and political science this year.

Really excited to read it, I have some others on order related to public policy too!

(I am boring)
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2670 Posts
May 23 2017 09:58 GMT
#162
I read Swann's Way by Marcel Proust (C. K. Scott Moncrieff translation with Terrence Kilmartin revision). I managed to get the complete Remembrance of Things Past free from a colleague so that's nice.

Anyway, I'm not sure I can add anything new to this discussion but it's a beautifully written book and incredibly interesting and captures these people in such an amusing way. I've noticed a great many of my character traits appearing in characters which reminds me of a quote I recently dug up from Philip Seymour Hoffman (the exact quote is about the joy of finding something written down, but I think you need the full context).
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18259 Posts
May 23 2017 10:40 GMT
#163
Just finished reading The Dark Forest (Cixin Liu) and was quite disappointed.

+ Show Spoiler +

Firstly, I think his representation of society in the crisis era is quite unrealistic, with the wallfacers' ideas getting torpedoed because they build doomsday devices instead of "ways of winning the war": if MAD is an acceptable strategy for all the world's superpowers why would it not be for war with the Trisolarians?

Secondly, Zhang Behai's "future history" was a stupid and unnecessary reference to Foundation. Foundation works because psychohistory is a bit handwavy, but is the setup for the rest of the story. Meanwhile this book tries to adhere to strict scifi rules, but then throws "future history" in en passant for no real reason.

Finally, it had too many irrelevant plotlines. Especially the 3 chinese neighbours... I still haven't figured out why I should care about them OR their tie-in to Da Shi. But to a certain extent, following the other 3 wallfacers was also just not done in an engaging manner.

In closing, not even close to Three-body Problem quality, although I did like the game theoretic solution to galactic sociology and the Fermi paradox.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-23 15:24:48
May 23 2017 15:24 GMT
#164
On May 23 2017 19:40 Acrofales wrote:
Just finished reading The Dark Forest (Cixin Liu) and was quite disappointed.

[spoiler]
Firstly, I think his representation of society in the crisis era is quite unrealistic, with the wallfacers' ideas getting torpedoed because they build doomsday devices instead of "ways of winning the war": if MAD is an acceptable strategy for all the world's superpowers why would it not be for war with the Trisolarians?

there was also a huge global economic depression that plays into it.


Secondly, Zhang Behai's "future history" was a stupid and unnecessary reference to Foundation. Foundation works because psychohistory is a bit handwavy, but is the setup for the rest of the story. Meanwhile this book tries to adhere to strict scifi rules, but then throws "future history" in en passant for no real reason.

lol, that's what you took reference with, and not the actual explicit reference to Foundation?



book 2 is far better than book 1 tbh. book 1 just got a lot of media attention in the west for the focus on the cultural revolution
TranslatorBaa!
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
May 23 2017 16:59 GMT
#165
I actually really liked the second one, too. Had a lot more humane characters and was my favourite book in the series
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 28 2017 17:14 GMT
#166
Currently reading:
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This'll take some time, Wallace is a legend and his breadth is remarkable in being able to even develop such a book that would normally so obtruse to even those of the highest caliber.

Will help for my philo phd apps tho. well maybe
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 28 2017 17:15 GMT
#167
On May 23 2017 18:58 Flicky wrote:
I read Swann's Way by Marcel Proust (C. K. Scott Moncrieff translation with Terrence Kilmartin revision). I managed to get the complete Remembrance of Things Past free from a colleague so that's nice.

Anyway, I'm not sure I can add anything new to this discussion but it's a beautifully written book and incredibly interesting and captures these people in such an amusing way. I've noticed a great many of my character traits appearing in characters which reminds me of a quote I recently dug up from Philip Seymour Hoffman (the exact quote is about the joy of finding something written down, but I think you need the full context).



Good stuff; Next to Nabokov, I've not read a writer whose prose contains the lyricism of Proust.

Maybe some english romantic poets, but even then
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
May 28 2017 19:14 GMT
#168
La Recherche is just my favorite book. Nice you got on the humour Flicky, that's what make reading the other six a walk in the park
Rereading one by one slowly too, having gone through it all once makes it all more amazing, especially Combray, already something incredible in itself.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-02 08:34:21
June 02 2017 08:27 GMT
#169
So, in the Cost of Rights Cass Sunstein says that: "Admittedly, the current economic boom in China suggests that, when suitably integrated into the world economy, a society without a strong court system can use kinship and other informal networks to breed credible commitments even in the absence of reliable judicial enforcement of property rights." (p. 75).

I'm interested in reading more about this system. Does anyone have a recommendation? Kinda of a long shot but worth a try, I guess.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 04 2017 23:50 GMT
#170
On June 02 2017 17:27 dmnum wrote:
So, in the Cost of Rights Cass Sunstein says that: "Admittedly, the current economic boom in China suggests that, when suitably integrated into the world economy, a society without a strong court system can use kinship and other informal networks to breed credible commitments even in the absence of reliable judicial enforcement of property rights." (p. 75).

I'm interested in reading more about this system. Does anyone have a recommendation? Kinda of a long shot but worth a try, I guess.


I was talking to a few people about this quotation and the book Trust by Francis Fukuyama came up.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 05 2017 14:09 GMT
#171
it's just corruption and nepotism
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-05 16:06:31
June 05 2017 16:06 GMT
#172
On June 05 2017 08:50 Jerubaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2017 17:27 dmnum wrote:
So, in the Cost of Rights Cass Sunstein says that: "Admittedly, the current economic boom in China suggests that, when suitably integrated into the world economy, a society without a strong court system can use kinship and other informal networks to breed credible commitments even in the absence of reliable judicial enforcement of property rights." (p. 75).

I'm interested in reading more about this system. Does anyone have a recommendation? Kinda of a long shot but worth a try, I guess.


I was talking to a few people about this quotation and the book Trust by Francis Fukuyama came up.

Reading the synopsis it sounds like what I was looking for. Thanks a bunch.
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
June 06 2017 11:08 GMT
#173
Corruption and nepotism is so deep rooted in China that it often works counter productive. An strong example given was how gas and electric companies worked together to deliberately fuck up eachothers wiring and piping when doing "maintenance" to leech more money from the government. They consider themselves to be quite clever for this.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 06 2017 17:39 GMT
#174
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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2670 Posts
June 07 2017 15:36 GMT
#175
Just finished:

Misbehaving by Richard Thaler. A history of behavioural economics. Pretty interesting overall, but lost me during finance chapters (not that interested in those numbers).

The Plague by Albert Camus. I don't think I enjoyed this book as much as I thought I would. It wasn't bad by any means, but it went a different direction to how I thought at the start and sometimes that's enough to mess with me for the duration of a book. Still looking forward to reading more Camus though.
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
June 07 2017 16:17 GMT
#176
Usef to be in love with Camus but never read the Plague front to cover, just 3 of his plays and 3 of his other novels, plus that famous little essay.
I'm really less interested today, but I think the only novel which I still love as much is The Fall.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
June 07 2017 16:48 GMT
#177
The Fall is his best by far.

I like The Plague but I think I like it better as ethico-theological framework than novel, per se.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
June 07 2017 22:03 GMT
#178
x3 for the fall
TranslatorBaa!
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2670 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-16 17:17:34
June 16 2017 17:16 GMT
#179
Letters From a Stoic by Seneca - A collection of letters from Seneca to Luicillius (or just essays) which are full of insights that are so simple that I almost find it tragic to think that I hadn't thought of them myself, some 2000 years after they were written. Seneca is much more human in his thought than Aurelius and his branch of stoicism is much more appealing to me. There's the occasional bizarre idea (he's pretty strongly against people who don't wake up early/in the daytime) but on the whole it's rather great.

Siddhartha by Hermann Hesse - I read this in German and I loved it. Stayed up until the following morning (come at me Seneca) and really enjoyed it. I still find the notion of a book dripping in eastern philosophy being written in German in the 20s slightly odd, but it's a lovely story and a book you could recommend to almost anyone. Some beautiful passages and one has the air of a classic fable. Has slipped into my top books list I think and I'm pretty happy I got through it in German with almost no issue.


Also, will be reading The Fall and The Outsider/Stranger at some point in the future. Three votes for The Fall is something I'm not going to ignore.
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
June 16 2017 20:36 GMT
#180
I like Siddhartha a lot too but the "eastern philosophy as imagined by a Western writer" criticism is quite common, but taken as it is it's a great story. Der Steppenwolf is great too.

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