As first seen in Daredevil Season 2, Jon Bernthal will be reprising his role as the tortured vigilante, while Steve Lightfoot, who was a writer and executive producer on Hannibal, will serve as showrunner on Marvel's The Punisher and write the first two episodes.
just finished daredevil season 2, that chinese words on the urn spoiled the whole experience for me lol Punisher is damn cool, I wish they gave him more screen time towards the end fight.
On August 23 2017 06:24 fishjie wrote: posting in here cause somewhat related - didn't see a thread for marvel defenders. did nobody watch it or nobody care?
The last couple episodes are really good. the first couple have their moments but they feel like they start and stop pretty heavily. Well worth the watch I think but could have been amazing in half the eps. the last episode specifically is really really good. Nothing is really bad about it I don't think other then pacing issues.
Iron fist gets exposed pretty hard as the shitty part of the defenders universe though. He gets all the facepalm moments and is generally a huge idiot.
Punisher was the best part of the defenders universe because I genuinely believe it was amazing acting and not just good writing or directing.
Defenders was fine. Campy and very TV, but fine. The foot clan is the worst part of that series, followed by Dany Rand, but it was acceptable. Hopefully they steer clear of the worst Frank Miller 80s plots in the future.
On August 23 2017 06:33 Plansix wrote: Defenders was fine. Campy and very TV, but fine. The foot clan is the worst part of that series, followed by Dany Rand, but it was acceptable. Hopefully they steer clear of the worst Frank Miller 80s plots in the future.
I really do hope they can move away from all that Hand bullshit and ninjas after the events depicted in The Defenders. And Iron Fist is one of the crappiest superhero designs ever (He knows kung fu and can focus his chi into his fist, wow. He's been orphaned as a very young boy and raised by kung fu monks but he's really a billionaire - the most boring backstory ever).
On August 23 2017 09:21 thePunGun wrote: Didn't like Defenders at all. Dare Devil season 2 was awesome imo, but Defenders felt more like a cheesy 90s Movie.
But Daredevil season 2 wasn't that good... Half of it was (all the parts with the Punisher and Kingpin) and the other half (pretty much all scenes with ninjas and Elektra) was absolutely terrible to the point where I was just skipping those parts in the later episodes.
The Ninjas were strangely crappy in daredevil but I think the elektra was at least serviceable. I wouldn't say taht you really mised anything if you skipped those scenes. There was definitely a lot of the early part of defenders that I'd skip if I knew better at the time.
Best Marvel TV show to date. Actually, this might be one of the best TV shows in general.
Totally not what I was expecting (I suspected they might do something like John Wick the TV show but with Punisher instead of John), but what I got was amazing. This is a really well made crime/drama/psychological thriller.
The characters were really fleshed out and interesting, the dynamic of their interactions was top notch and pretty much all the roles were played very well (with Bernthal taking the cake of course).
The directing and editing were superb - I was really astonished at how well they used clever juxtaposition in some scenes. It definitely wowed me.
The action scenes were really well made and very brutal for the most part. I also liked how they captured the essence of the Punisher. I mean, he's the guy you're rooting for and your protagonist, all is well, cool and dandy and it's easy in some of the slower parts of the show, but then you get to the action and confrontation... Then you discover that Frank is really an unhinged psychopath and a real monster. He's annihilating (not an exaggeration) any opposition without any pity or remorse. It is always violent, brutal and gruesome, quite often disgusting. This is really what makes The Punisher such an interesting character. The polarity of righteous, generally good guy towards others and this bestial monster towards anyone he considers to be a bad guy or a threat to innocents.
I also really enjoyed how they delved in PTSD and gun control. It wasn't opinionated, it explored the topics really well and fit the theme of the show. Props from me.
All in all, we got more Frank Castle and less Punisher, but it was done really well. I can definitely recommend this show to pretty much anyone (not just comic book fans).
I have watched three episodes so far, the last one is just nuts, very well made for a series, Frank is a pshycopath who makes really bad things in order to make "good" things, he enjoys violence and all that stuff, his character development is very good, at the beggining I thought that Jon Bernthal wasnt the best choice to be the main actor, but he proved me wrong, tonight I will continue expecting good things from this series.
On November 20 2017 08:57 Grettin wrote: Finished the show and gotta agree that it's the best marvel show to date. Jon Bernthal as Frank Castle was amazing choice.
I gotta agree. It's definitely up there with daredevil as being freaking amazing.
I can't imagine anyone else as Punisher now, he was perfect. This might be the most violent show I've ever seen. I usually don't care at all about on-screen violence, but this show actually had me cringing at parts and thinking "Did they need to show that?" So much red-syrup. It serves its purpose, though.
The issues of PTSD, military culture, and Stolen Valor are handled pretty well.
when are we allowed to post spoilers? its annoying posting stuff in spoiler tag, and its been a whole weekend most people would've binged on it by now.
liked it more than defenders, which were plagued by laughable ninja zombies
Some of these fighting scenes were absolutely brutal, no no-killing but breaking neck, no just absolute slaughter. A very nice foray into PTSD/Veterans and how they feel abandoned by the state and struggle with their life as well, didn't really expect that from The Punisher show.
Really great. Finished and I'm thoroughly convinced that this is one of, if not the best, shows I've seen a very long time. Bernthal edges out Thomas Jane as Punisher for me. The music could have been better, but the scenes were crafted extraordinarily well.
For me it started a bit too slow but thats probably because i "wanted/expected" more action. Once i realised that this won't be the main focus, i was really well entertained.
On November 21 2017 22:29 Velr wrote: I also finnished it.
For me it started a bit too slow but thats probably because i "wanted/expected" more action. Once i realised that this won't be the main focus, i was really well entertained.
Really good show .
this,i will be so sad if a new season will be for 2019 ...
I liked the show a lot. honestly the netflix marvel shows are the best super hero content, not all of them are great but this, JJ and DD season 1 are just the best there is now.
I just hope they don't do too many sequels where they over use the character background and try to do something new and mess everything up
On November 22 2017 07:41 way2mash4u wrote: This was vicious and brilliant.
So when are we allowed to talk about it? 'cause I really hate some of the criticism it receives (on reddit mostly, ugh).
I think it's fine as long as you spoiler posts for the next couple weeks as people get some time to watch it.
I personally think the show was fucking amazing, but other people I know say it was needlessly brutal violent, even though IMO it was necessary to really show who the punisher is.
Stuff like hamstringing the soldier without killing him, the one man army to save his squad, etc. Finishing agent orange off in a manner that brings back memories of the Mountain also.
So before this season, we thought that Frank's family died in the crossfire of a drug deal gone wrong in central park, by accident. That's why Frank went after the gangs and Shoonover (who started the drug operation as The Blacksmith) in Daredevil season 2. Now we know that the death of Frank's family was not an accident. When Frank gets to Wolf in his own home, Wolf tells him that they knew about his homecoming tradition (going to the roundabout and having picnic in the park with the whole family) and planned to kill not just him, but also his family (and a bunch of criminals for even more bodies and chaos) to make it look like an accident. So the murderers are basically Wolf, Rawlins and Shoonover aka The Blacksmith, who planned this together I'd guess, as well as Billy Ruso who knew about it and did not stop it or warn Frank.
The triggers were pulled by a bunch of low level criminals during the drug deal, but they are not important and probably all died in the shootout or were killed afterwards by Rawlins and co. to hide any tracks.
Especially the part where Frank is being beaten down in the chair with snippets of him having sex with his wife. The other voilence I just viewed as very efficient takedowns and paints that picture of a person that gets stuff done.
Just finished the series. Brutal and intense. Score is amazing and the acting is better from everyone involved. Probably the best thing on Netflix at the moment.
why is season 2 getting rated so lowly? is it the same problem as season 1 in terms of ratings? cus afaik critics only watch like first few episodes and then rate the season overall or something
Also loved the new season. Hopefully, when eventually this series get axed just like the rest of the Netflix Marvel stuff, Disney or whoever decides to continue with the same actor(s) and same level of quality and style in the future.
new season was good but the pacing was off with the introduction of russo. first they're running for their lives, and all of a sudden they get a huge respite while punishane deals with russo. having just pilgrim would've been fine. and it went from pilgrim + army hunting them to just pilgrim.
On January 29 2019 22:38 Grettin wrote: Also loved the new season. Hopefully, when eventually this series get axed just like the rest of the Netflix Marvel stuff, Disney or whoever decides to continue with the same actor(s) and same level of quality and style in the future.
That's my hope as well. Don't have much faith though .
On January 29 2019 18:54 konadora wrote: why is season 2 getting rated so lowly? is it the same problem as season 1 in terms of ratings? cus afaik critics only watch like first few episodes and then rate the season overall or something
Imo the first half was really good. The second half wasn't as exciting (at least in my opinion). It felt like a lot of filler and all that. I also didn't like what happened to the villian (Pilgrim I think his name is?) that was disappointing.
Still enjoyed it and am sad that season 3 will never come.
The only thing this season was missing for me was an epic 5 minute montage of terrible, terrible damage that Punisher inflicts on people after he said "Just let me be who I was meant to be..."
It started of great, then fell into the usual issue of having ~4 episodes too much like most netflix/marvel shows and ended good again, like most netflix/marvel shows.
They should let the "shoot'em'up" director make a movie.
“Marvel’s The Punisher will not return for a third season on Netflix,” Netflix confirmed today to Deadline. “Showrunner Steve Lightfoot, the terrific crew, and exceptional cast including star Jon Bernthal, delivered an acclaimed and compelling series for fans, and we are proud to showcase their work on Netflix for years to come,” the streamer added.
“In addition, in reviewing our Marvel programming, we have decided that the upcoming third season will also be the final season for Marvel’s Jessica Jones,” Netflix also made official this President’s Day. “We are grateful to showrunner Melissa Rosenberg, star Krysten Ritter and the entire cast and crew, for three incredible seasons of this groundbreaking series, which was recognized by the Peabody Awards among many others”.
Weird decisions, DD and Punisher were the best part of their series, I understand why would they cancel JJ, LC and Iron Fist.
Bernthal is a great Punisher, gives me vibes.
Why is that happening? It's like DC got rid of their best asset so far (Batfleck), and now Marvel does the same with their TV series. Or is that Netflix to blame?
On February 19 2019 06:10 Dav1oN wrote: Weird decisions, DD and Punisher were the best part of their series, I understand why would they cancel JJ, LC and Iron Fist.
Bernthal is a great Punisher, gives me vibes.
Why is that happening? It's like DC got rid of their best asset so far (Batfleck), and now Marvel does the same with their TV series. Or is that Netflix to blame?
I think it has to do with Disney starting up its own proprietary streaming service. Disney has been planning to pull all of the licenses for its major franchises from potential competitors. Now that streaming has devalued traditional TV platforms, content is king.
But yes, Bernthal is awesome as the Punisher, so I wouldn't be surprised if Disney renews the show.
I really hope Disney will just let them rest for now. I don't have any faith in Disney at the moment considering their recent endeavors (killing Star Wars for example).
On February 26 2019 01:11 JimmiC wrote: That is my hope that Disney revives them all. I mean I get Iron fist was not good, but the second season was better and it was just cool how they all interacted within the universe. It would be cool to see how they could do it if they had all their content together. To me anything on netflix was still better than the shows they put out on Cable to I would be up for all and more of them to come back.
I prefer both Legion and Agents of SHIELD to anything on Netflix. If you haven't seen Legion I would very much recommend it.