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On December 21 2016 03:09 ShoCkeyy wrote:
As a fan since birth, this movie did it for me. I don't understand how everyone critiques it all the time. These people spent almost two+ years, and millions upon millions creating a movie to take up two hrs of your time. And then people "dislike", because it had a few plot holes or wasn't "killer" enough. Those two hrs were well spent, even if things weren't done correctly. Nothing is ever going to be 100% the way you want it, the movie is made for millions of people.
My girlfriend who isn't a huge star wars fan cried through most of the movies, so you know the drama is real and kicking even for those who don't understand the universe. As for those who do, just enjoy the movie, at least they're not bad adaptations of movies that came out in the 70's...
Yea I feel like the only people who didn't care about the characters were the ACTUAL Star Wars fans+ Show Spoiler +who knew that they were all doomed from the start since none of these characters appear in the later movies.
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Anyone saying the film had forgettable characters I really gotta ask what the fuck movie you were watching. One complaint is that they say their names too fast and too infrequently so you're never quite sure what the fuck they are even named. Other than that you get quite a bit of backstory on the main crew considering the length of the film and it's nature (sci-fi action rather than drama).
All the throwback touches were quite nice (except for the thugs from mos eisley being on jehda) and slipped in discreetly. I don't mind the CGI of Tarkin/Leia (really who ****ing cares if they are uncanny valley? they're on screen for a miniscule amount of time).
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Imagine this:
The movie opens up with a few shots of Mads Mikkelsen playing on the farm with his daughter and wife, generally having a good time. Lambda lands and Imperials try to take Mads with them. Enter your typical "Daddy, no! Please!" scene. Daughter runs to daddy, daddy runs to daughter. Troopers subdue daddy, shoot mommy and drop the kid with a rifle butt before dragging unconscious daddy back to the shuttle. Cut to the scene with crying kid holding down mommy, some gangbangers appear, led by Forrest Whitaker.
Now we jump forward in time, the kid is a bit older and we see her pick-pocketing in the market, bringing loot to Whitaker and such. She gets spotted, brief chase, Imperials catch her and take her away.
Another jump in time. Diego Luna is running from the Imperials, she runs into the alley, where he sees Felicity Jones beating on some dudes while trying to extort their money. Some troopers run in, he shoots them. Girl is like "Fuck! You got me involved in this shit! I can't go back to prison!". They run away thanks to her knowledge of the city but one of them gets injured. What follows is a couple of scenes where one of them takes care of the other (doesn't matter which), they share some memories, how they hate the Empire etc. There's a connection between them, they kiss and become lovers.
Diego introduces Felicity to the Rebels. We see a couple of scenes where they undertake some missions together, their relationship grows. Someone mentions Mads, Felicity wants to know more. The plan to steal the plans (all pun intended) is hatched. They assemble a small, motley crew (just extras to die, no one special) and embark on a mission.
We get an Ocean's Eleven/Mission Impossible style infiltration into some facility. They get discovered because Felicity wants to see Mads. Everyone dies but Felicity manages to drop the plans into an escape pod or something before being captured.
Cut to the shot of Leia's ship picking up the pod.
Cut to the shot of Felicity, in Imperial uniform standing with someone saying something along the lines of "Did you plant the tracker as you were supposed to, agent?". Felicity nods.
BAM!
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On December 21 2016 09:31 Manit0u wrote:
Imagine this:
The movie opens up with a few shots of Mads Mikkelsen playing on the farm with his daughter and wife, generally having a good time. Lambda lands and Imperials try to take Mads with them. Enter your typical "Daddy, no! Please!" scene. Daughter runs to daddy, daddy runs to daughter. Troopers subdue daddy, shoot mommy and drop the kid with a rifle butt before dragging unconscious daddy back to the shuttle. Cut to the scene with crying kid holding down mommy, some gangbangers appear, led by Forrest Whitaker.
Now we jump forward in time, the kid is a bit older and we see her pick-pocketing in the market, bringing loot to Whitaker and such. She gets spotted, brief chase, Imperials catch her and take her away.
Another jump in time. Diego Luna is running from the Imperials, she runs into the alley, where he sees Felicity Jones beating on some dudes while trying to extort their money. Some troopers run in, he shoots them. Girl is like "Fuck! You got me involved in this shit! I can't go back to prison!". They run away thanks to her knowledge of the city but one of them gets injured. What follows is a couple of scenes where one of them takes care of the other (doesn't matter which), they share some memories, how they hate the Empire etc. There's a connection between them, they kiss and become lovers.
Diego introduces Felicity to the Rebels. We see a couple of scenes where they undertake some missions together, their relationship grows. Someone mentions Mads, Felicity wants to know more. The plan to steal the plans (all pun intended) is hatched. They assemble a small, motley crew (just extras to die, no one special) and embark on a mission.
We get an Ocean's Eleven/Mission Impossible style infiltration into some facility. They get discovered because Felicity wants to see Mads. Everyone dies but Felicity manages to drop the plans into an escape pod or something before being captured.
Cut to the shot of Leia's ship picking up the pod.
Cut to the shot of Felicity, in Imperial uniform standing with someone saying something along the lines of "Did you plant the tracker as you were supposed to, agent?". Felicity nods.
BAM!
And there I thought you were only good as a programmer 
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On December 21 2016 11:36 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2016 09:31 Manit0u wrote:
Imagine this:
The movie opens up with a few shots of Mads Mikkelsen playing on the farm with his daughter and wife, generally having a good time. Lambda lands and Imperials try to take Mads with them. Enter your typical "Daddy, no! Please!" scene. Daughter runs to daddy, daddy runs to daughter. Troopers subdue daddy, shoot mommy and drop the kid with a rifle butt before dragging unconscious daddy back to the shuttle. Cut to the scene with crying kid holding down mommy, some gangbangers appear, led by Forrest Whitaker.
Now we jump forward in time, the kid is a bit older and we see her pick-pocketing in the market, bringing loot to Whitaker and such. She gets spotted, brief chase, Imperials catch her and take her away.
Another jump in time. Diego Luna is running from the Imperials, she runs into the alley, where he sees Felicity Jones beating on some dudes while trying to extort their money. Some troopers run in, he shoots them. Girl is like "Fuck! You got me involved in this shit! I can't go back to prison!". They run away thanks to her knowledge of the city but one of them gets injured. What follows is a couple of scenes where one of them takes care of the other (doesn't matter which), they share some memories, how they hate the Empire etc. There's a connection between them, they kiss and become lovers.
Diego introduces Felicity to the Rebels. We see a couple of scenes where they undertake some missions together, their relationship grows. Someone mentions Mads, Felicity wants to know more. The plan to steal the plans (all pun intended) is hatched. They assemble a small, motley crew (just extras to die, no one special) and embark on a mission.
We get an Ocean's Eleven/Mission Impossible style infiltration into some facility. They get discovered because Felicity wants to see Mads. Everyone dies but Felicity manages to drop the plans into an escape pod or something before being captured.
Cut to the shot of Leia's ship picking up the pod.
Cut to the shot of Felicity, in Imperial uniform standing with someone saying something along the lines of "Did you plant the tracker as you were supposed to, agent?". Felicity nods.
BAM! And there I thought you were only good as a programmer
I learned programming by helping with MUD development. Those quests don't write themselves you know
But on a more serious note. This could've been a really good movie if all of the pointless fan service and introduction of plenty of totally superfluous characters that weren't vital to the plot (mostly for the sake of diversity) were instead turned into developing just the few, key characters we could actually care about.
Think about it. What those characters actually added to the movie/story?
Chirrut Imwe, Saw Gerrera, Baze Malbus, Darth Vader, Leia Organa, Wilhuff Tarkin, C3-PO, R2-D2 - that's 8 characters this movie could just as well do without. K2-SO could potentially make the list but Star Wars is notorious for some droid characters.
Another thing was constant location switching. I must say that in the first 5 minutes of the movie I was nothing but confused. They could've sticked to 3-4 key locations (without much jumping between them) and it would do the movie nothing but good.
Action scenes were well made and all, but everything else was rather lackluster. A mediocre movie at best.
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The movie was good, accomplished its purpose. Was fun, had some really nostalgic moments and was really pretty. If you didn't like it, you are probably someone who hates fun.
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On December 21 2016 13:08 FranzF1 wrote:
The movie was good, accomplished its purpose. Was fun, had some really nostalgic moments and was really pretty. If you didn't like it, you are probably someone who hates fun.
I don't hate fun. This movie simply wasted its potential (and it pisses me off). Ep VII was a lot better.
I mean, just look at some of the early concepts:
http://www.polygon.com/2016/12/20/14025468/meet-the-original-cast-of-rogue-one-concept-art
Much better than what we got...
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On December 21 2016 09:31 Manit0u wrote:
Imagine this:
The movie opens up with a few shots of Mads Mikkelsen playing on the farm with his daughter and wife, generally having a good time. Lambda lands and Imperials try to take Mads with them. Enter your typical "Daddy, no! Please!" scene. Daughter runs to daddy, daddy runs to daughter. Troopers subdue daddy, shoot mommy and drop the kid with a rifle butt before dragging unconscious daddy back to the shuttle. Cut to the scene with crying kid holding down mommy, some gangbangers appear, led by Forrest Whitaker.
Now we jump forward in time, the kid is a bit older and we see her pick-pocketing in the market, bringing loot to Whitaker and such. She gets spotted, brief chase, Imperials catch her and take her away.
Another jump in time. Diego Luna is running from the Imperials, she runs into the alley, where he sees Felicity Jones beating on some dudes while trying to extort their money. Some troopers run in, he shoots them. Girl is like "Fuck! You got me involved in this shit! I can't go back to prison!". They run away thanks to her knowledge of the city but one of them gets injured. What follows is a couple of scenes where one of them takes care of the other (doesn't matter which), they share some memories, how they hate the Empire etc. There's a connection between them, they kiss and become lovers.
Diego introduces Felicity to the Rebels. We see a couple of scenes where they undertake some missions together, their relationship grows. Someone mentions Mads, Felicity wants to know more. The plan to steal the plans (all pun intended) is hatched. They assemble a small, motley crew (just extras to die, no one special) and embark on a mission.
We get an Ocean's Eleven/Mission Impossible style infiltration into some facility. They get discovered because Felicity wants to see Mads. Everyone dies but Felicity manages to drop the plans into an escape pod or something before being captured.
Cut to the shot of Leia's ship picking up the pod.
Cut to the shot of Felicity, in Imperial uniform standing with someone saying something along the lines of "Did you plant the tracker as you were supposed to, agent?". Felicity nods.
BAM!
An explanation of why Jyn is serving the Empire would be required in that scenario, because otherwise it would make little sense for her to be helping those responsible for her mother's brutal murder in front of her.
The idea of a tracking device leading the Empire to the Tantive IV is pretty good in itself, but it would mean that the Empire would then have had no reason to intercept the ship, since they would have wanted to follow it to the Rebel base (which is exactly what they ended up doing in ANH once they managed to bug the Falcon).
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On December 18 2016 19:19 mantequilla wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I just came from the theater. Movie was ok but, I didn't understand two points in the plot, maybe you can explain it to me. It is possible that I didn't catch some dialog.
1) why does vader rebuke the commander (I forgot his name) for the first test shot of death star? A complete success and destruction of a rebel planet. Shouldn't he be pleased?
2) why does the death star destroy the second planet where the archives are? Isn't it an important empire planet? If it's to deny rebels stealing the plans, why not shoot the transmitter antenna or the archive instead of slowly blowing an entire friendly planet?
+ Show Spoiler +i thought they said the first test was on Alderaan in episode 4?
Tarkin makes a big deal about how remote Dantooine is for an effective demonstration
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On December 21 2016 14:52 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2016 19:19 mantequilla wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I just came from the theater. Movie was ok but, I didn't understand two points in the plot, maybe you can explain it to me. It is possible that I didn't catch some dialog.
1) why does vader rebuke the commander (I forgot his name) for the first test shot of death star? A complete success and destruction of a rebel planet. Shouldn't he be pleased?
2) why does the death star destroy the second planet where the archives are? Isn't it an important empire planet? If it's to deny rebels stealing the plans, why not shoot the transmitter antenna or the archive instead of slowly blowing an entire friendly planet?
+ Show Spoiler +i thought they said the first test was on Alderaan in episode 4?
Tarkin makes a big deal about how remote Dantooine is for an effective demonstration
+ Show Spoiler +By "demonstration" it is clear he means "show the weapon off to the galaxy."
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On December 21 2016 14:55 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2016 14:52 arb wrote:On December 18 2016 19:19 mantequilla wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I just came from the theater. Movie was ok but, I didn't understand two points in the plot, maybe you can explain it to me. It is possible that I didn't catch some dialog.
1) why does vader rebuke the commander (I forgot his name) for the first test shot of death star? A complete success and destruction of a rebel planet. Shouldn't he be pleased?
2) why does the death star destroy the second planet where the archives are? Isn't it an important empire planet? If it's to deny rebels stealing the plans, why not shoot the transmitter antenna or the archive instead of slowly blowing an entire friendly planet?
+ Show Spoiler +i thought they said the first test was on Alderaan in episode 4?
Tarkin makes a big deal about how remote Dantooine is for an effective demonstration + Show Spoiler +By "demonstration" it is clear he means "show the weapon off to the galaxy."
+ Show Spoiler +so did they go through some big secret coverup when they destroyed other planets?
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On December 21 2016 14:56 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2016 14:55 LegalLord wrote:On December 21 2016 14:52 arb wrote:On December 18 2016 19:19 mantequilla wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I just came from the theater. Movie was ok but, I didn't understand two points in the plot, maybe you can explain it to me. It is possible that I didn't catch some dialog.
1) why does vader rebuke the commander (I forgot his name) for the first test shot of death star? A complete success and destruction of a rebel planet. Shouldn't he be pleased?
2) why does the death star destroy the second planet where the archives are? Isn't it an important empire planet? If it's to deny rebels stealing the plans, why not shoot the transmitter antenna or the archive instead of slowly blowing an entire friendly planet?
+ Show Spoiler +i thought they said the first test was on Alderaan in episode 4?
Tarkin makes a big deal about how remote Dantooine is for an effective demonstration + Show Spoiler +By "demonstration" it is clear he means "show the weapon off to the galaxy." + Show Spoiler +so did they go through some big secret coverup when they destroyed other planets?
+ Show Spoiler +This movie made it sound as much; they explicitly talked about it.
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On December 21 2016 14:58 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2016 14:56 arb wrote:On December 21 2016 14:55 LegalLord wrote:On December 21 2016 14:52 arb wrote:On December 18 2016 19:19 mantequilla wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I just came from the theater. Movie was ok but, I didn't understand two points in the plot, maybe you can explain it to me. It is possible that I didn't catch some dialog.
1) why does vader rebuke the commander (I forgot his name) for the first test shot of death star? A complete success and destruction of a rebel planet. Shouldn't he be pleased?
2) why does the death star destroy the second planet where the archives are? Isn't it an important empire planet? If it's to deny rebels stealing the plans, why not shoot the transmitter antenna or the archive instead of slowly blowing an entire friendly planet?
+ Show Spoiler +i thought they said the first test was on Alderaan in episode 4?
Tarkin makes a big deal about how remote Dantooine is for an effective demonstration + Show Spoiler +By "demonstration" it is clear he means "show the weapon off to the galaxy." + Show Spoiler +so did they go through some big secret coverup when they destroyed other planets? + Show Spoiler +This movie made it sound as much; they explicitly talked about it.
+ Show Spoiler +Doing a bit more research from the Star Wars wiki(lol i know) it even says the first test was on Alderaan
how strange
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On December 21 2016 14:52 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2016 19:19 mantequilla wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I just came from the theater. Movie was ok but, I didn't understand two points in the plot, maybe you can explain it to me. It is possible that I didn't catch some dialog.
1) why does vader rebuke the commander (I forgot his name) for the first test shot of death star? A complete success and destruction of a rebel planet. Shouldn't he be pleased?
2) why does the death star destroy the second planet where the archives are? Isn't it an important empire planet? If it's to deny rebels stealing the plans, why not shoot the transmitter antenna or the archive instead of slowly blowing an entire friendly planet?
+ Show Spoiler +i thought they said the first test was on Alderaan in episode 4?
Tarkin makes a big deal about how remote Dantooine is for an effective demonstration
+ Show Spoiler +Alderaan was the first test and demonstration of the Death Star's ability to completely destroy an entire planet. Scarif and Jedha largely suffered surface damage -- they were not completely blown up. Only a fraction of the full firepower of the Death Star was used on them.
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On December 21 2016 13:46 kwizach wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2016 09:31 Manit0u wrote:
Imagine this:
The movie opens up with a few shots of Mads Mikkelsen playing on the farm with his daughter and wife, generally having a good time. Lambda lands and Imperials try to take Mads with them. Enter your typical "Daddy, no! Please!" scene. Daughter runs to daddy, daddy runs to daughter. Troopers subdue daddy, shoot mommy and drop the kid with a rifle butt before dragging unconscious daddy back to the shuttle. Cut to the scene with crying kid holding down mommy, some gangbangers appear, led by Forrest Whitaker.
Now we jump forward in time, the kid is a bit older and we see her pick-pocketing in the market, bringing loot to Whitaker and such. She gets spotted, brief chase, Imperials catch her and take her away.
Another jump in time. Diego Luna is running from the Imperials, she runs into the alley, where he sees Felicity Jones beating on some dudes while trying to extort their money. Some troopers run in, he shoots them. Girl is like "Fuck! You got me involved in this shit! I can't go back to prison!". They run away thanks to her knowledge of the city but one of them gets injured. What follows is a couple of scenes where one of them takes care of the other (doesn't matter which), they share some memories, how they hate the Empire etc. There's a connection between them, they kiss and become lovers.
Diego introduces Felicity to the Rebels. We see a couple of scenes where they undertake some missions together, their relationship grows. Someone mentions Mads, Felicity wants to know more. The plan to steal the plans (all pun intended) is hatched. They assemble a small, motley crew (just extras to die, no one special) and embark on a mission.
We get an Ocean's Eleven/Mission Impossible style infiltration into some facility. They get discovered because Felicity wants to see Mads. Everyone dies but Felicity manages to drop the plans into an escape pod or something before being captured.
Cut to the shot of Leia's ship picking up the pod.
Cut to the shot of Felicity, in Imperial uniform standing with someone saying something along the lines of "Did you plant the tracker as you were supposed to, agent?". Felicity nods.
BAM! An explanation of why Jyn is serving the Empire would be required in that scenario, because otherwise it would make little sense for her to be helping those responsible for her mother's brutal murder in front of her. The idea of a tracking device leading the Empire to the Tantive IV is pretty good in itself, but it would mean that the Empire would then have had no reason to intercept the ship, since they would have wanted to follow it to the Rebel base (which is exactly what they ended up doing in ANH once they managed to bug the Falcon).
Obviously something I've written ad hoc isn't going to be perfect 
Jyn serving the Empire is just one of the many possibilities. Original intent I've had was that when she was captured as a young girl she got indoctrinated and trained as an agent. Then, sent back later on to infiltrate Garro's gang as her initial field test. Diego inviting her to join the Rebellion could be seen by her as a great opportunity to advance in the ranks.
I still need to polish the finish a bit. In my idea I was going for Jyn being torn between various driving forces behind her:
- reconciliation with long lost father
- love for Diego, which started as a ruse but possibly evolved into something real
- her service to the Empire
There's plenty of emotional potential there.
The tracking device thingie could be dropped entirely (as well as Jyn's service to the Empire) in favor of the original RO concept (no father backstory, we meet Jyn as an adult rebel commando, director Krennic being an Imperial spy embedded in her squad).
In any case, I'd rather it be more of an espionage movie (something like Where Eagles Dare would be just perfect) than "run at them with guns blazing" movie.
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I saw it tonight and I thought it was so badass, and actually pretty sad. I was surprised, probably in a good way, that + Show Spoiler +they fucking killed everyone
I actually loved the characters. I thought + Show Spoiler + felt a bit hollow, but the last scene between + Show Spoiler +Jyn and Cassian was subtlety heartbreaking
At the beginning I didn't feel jack for the characters, but by the end I really cared. Felicity Jones was fucking baller and now I'm stuck between Rey and Jyn. Their characters are both so empoweringly sexy that I don't know what to do.
+ Show Spoiler +im actually quite sad we'll never see any of these characters in another Star Wars movie. Didn't think there was a weak link (of the rebellion 5-6)
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I do agree that the first five minutes should've developed Jyn'S relationship either with her parents or Saw though
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On December 21 2016 16:22 Manit0u wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2016 13:46 kwizach wrote:On December 21 2016 09:31 Manit0u wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Imagine this:
The movie opens up with a few shots of Mads Mikkelsen playing on the farm with his daughter and wife, generally having a good time. Lambda lands and Imperials try to take Mads with them. Enter your typical "Daddy, no! Please!" scene. Daughter runs to daddy, daddy runs to daughter. Troopers subdue daddy, shoot mommy and drop the kid with a rifle butt before dragging unconscious daddy back to the shuttle. Cut to the scene with crying kid holding down mommy, some gangbangers appear, led by Forrest Whitaker.
Now we jump forward in time, the kid is a bit older and we see her pick-pocketing in the market, bringing loot to Whitaker and such. She gets spotted, brief chase, Imperials catch her and take her away.
Another jump in time. Diego Luna is running from the Imperials, she runs into the alley, where he sees Felicity Jones beating on some dudes while trying to extort their money. Some troopers run in, he shoots them. Girl is like "Fuck! You got me involved in this shit! I can't go back to prison!". They run away thanks to her knowledge of the city but one of them gets injured. What follows is a couple of scenes where one of them takes care of the other (doesn't matter which), they share some memories, how they hate the Empire etc. There's a connection between them, they kiss and become lovers.
Diego introduces Felicity to the Rebels. We see a couple of scenes where they undertake some missions together, their relationship grows. Someone mentions Mads, Felicity wants to know more. The plan to steal the plans (all pun intended) is hatched. They assemble a small, motley crew (just extras to die, no one special) and embark on a mission.
We get an Ocean's Eleven/Mission Impossible style infiltration into some facility. They get discovered because Felicity wants to see Mads. Everyone dies but Felicity manages to drop the plans into an escape pod or something before being captured.
Cut to the shot of Leia's ship picking up the pod.
Cut to the shot of Felicity, in Imperial uniform standing with someone saying something along the lines of "Did you plant the tracker as you were supposed to, agent?". Felicity nods.
BAM!
An explanation of why Jyn is serving the Empire would be required in that scenario, because otherwise it would make little sense for her to be helping those responsible for her mother's brutal murder in front of her. The idea of a tracking device leading the Empire to the Tantive IV is pretty good in itself, but it would mean that the Empire would then have had no reason to intercept the ship, since they would have wanted to follow it to the Rebel base (which is exactly what they ended up doing in ANH once they managed to bug the Falcon). Obviously something I've written ad hoc isn't going to be perfect Jyn serving the Empire is just one of the many possibilities. Original intent I've had was that when she was captured as a young girl she got indoctrinated and trained as an agent. Then, sent back later on to infiltrate Garro's gang as her initial field test. Diego inviting her to join the Rebellion could be seen by her as a great opportunity to advance in the ranks. I still need to polish the finish a bit. In my idea I was going for Jyn being torn between various driving forces behind her: - reconciliation with long lost father - love for Diego, which started as a ruse but possibly evolved into something real - her service to the Empire There's plenty of emotional potential there. The tracking device thingie could be dropped entirely (as well as Jyn's service to the Empire) in favor of the original RO concept (no father backstory, we meet Jyn as an adult rebel commando, director Krennic being an Imperial spy embedded in her squad). In any case, I'd rather it be more of an espionage movie (something like Where Eagles Dare would be just perfect) than "run at them with guns blazing" movie.
I like your concepts alot more. Give us some emotions! Something to care for.
Also her working for the empire would make it more treatening (everyone could be an agent).
We don't acutally know alot about the empire apart from it being evil. And i actually feel sorry them. Everything they built gets blown up really quick and the stormtroopers, while they've never been good at aiming, now die by the dozends in just 1 second by one machine gun or a guy with a wooden stick (although they have armor). They feel like the romans from the Asterix comics. This makes me care even less for the good guys.
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Quite liked the movie.
Whenever people complain about a lack of character development I just shrug. It's a sci-fi action movie, I've come for space battles and cool fighting moves, not character development. Lack of lightsabers is a shame but Donnie makes up for it.
I guess it won't come as a surprise that I don't rate the old trilogy as high as pretty much everyone else in the world.
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On December 21 2016 23:20 Laurens wrote:
Quite liked the movie.
Whenever people complain about a lack of character development I just shrug. It's a sci-fi action movie, I've come for space battles and cool fighting moves, not character development. Lack of lightsabers is a shame but Donnie makes up for it.
I guess it won't come as a surprise that I don't rate the old trilogy as high as pretty much everyone else in the world.
In a sci-fi movie you can have space battles, cool fighting moves AND character development (as demonstrated by the likes of recent Star Trek reboots, Guardians of the Galaxy and Force Awakens). Rogue One has really nice cinematography but not much else going for it.
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