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On August 07 2014 04:09 Slaughter wrote: I don't even know what to believe anymore, apparently some characters are beyond death and can just warp out of the afterlife whenever they bloody feel like it.
Well, he did had the rinnegan, therefore the six path..
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On August 07 2014 01:22 Shellshock wrote: which dead person is going to give Sakura a powerup?
Tsunade.
Wait is she even dead?
As for the chapter I'm kind of torn, Kishi missed the very easy chance of making sakura useful by transporting the eyes herself, but this is a "power of friendship" move I actually believe in. Obito can warp through dimensions and its already been shown that people near death can see dead people and converse with them (ala Kakashi and his dad) so none of this was terribly farfetched. Besides the actual eye transfer mechanic itself. Its how the hell Kakashi is going to live through using it after how shot his body gets. Although Jesusruto is there to just heal him up
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idk whats going on anymore lol
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On August 07 2014 08:06 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 01:22 Shellshock wrote: which dead person is going to give Sakura a powerup? Tsunade. Wait is she even dead? As for the chapter I'm kind of torn, Kishi missed the very easy chance of making sakura useful by transporting the eyes herself, but this is a "power of friendship" move I actually believe in. Obito can warp through dimensions and its already been shown that people near death can see dead people and converse with them (ala Kakashi and his dad) so none of this was terribly farfetched. Besides the actual eye transfer mechanic itself. Its how the hell Kakashi is going to live through using it after how shot his body gets. Although Jesusruto is there to just heal him up
hey, least it isn't how Bleach has been going. 
Everyone sort of dying but not dying really. Story is continuous but with no real end to anything... stalling.... I like this week's Naruto way more then Bleach. Been kind of fed up with how Bleach's story has been going actually.
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I don't know, Bleach has been quite good the last couple weeks. All the good guys in the current chapters have been around forever and there is dialogue and they have character interactions and quip with each other. It's like all the Bleach arcs I didn't read don't matter(aside from being considered bad).
As for current Naruto chapter... The only explanation that makes sense to me is that strong chakra people like the Sage of the 6 Paths can sort of linger around and reappear in the world of the living. While regular mortals like Naruto's parents can at best leave behind messages in stored jutsus(Naruto's seal).
That would however mean that Obito has become an entity with as much chakra or power or whatever as the So6P....
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actually i think naruto's parents leaving behind messages is closer to how this works. it could be that when naruto's parents died, their chakra was stored inside him instead of where they were suppose to go. naruto was altered because of the afterlife in this case... one with his mother's chains still working, and his father resealing his seal. obito's chakra was suppose to go somewhere but he decided that he had to do something before he went so thats what he did apparently. and it seems he said it was only temporary.
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The "temporary" thing Obito talked about might have been Kakashi's title as Hokage, although who knows how he learned about that if that's the case - probably just the information cache that Zetsu became some while back. We'll have to see though.
Also, the final form of Susano'o has pulled a super saiyan, going in the blink of a cosmic eye from being a 1 in a billion legendary power, to being something every noteworthy character with the right blood just has now. Kakashi should have just saved Sakura with a full-speed Kamui instead.
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Kakashi if people forgotten, was mere moments in becoming the 6th Hokage. Like literally moments since Tsunade woke up just in time. So if... Tsunade decides to retire after all of this... then what Obito said about the Hokage thing might be true.
I don't think Naruto or Sasuke will be Hokage until they are a bit older. But... who knows. I'm happy that Kakashi actually got full Sharingan again. It was kinda of weird for those bit of chapters w/o him having it. That part, I'm excited for
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On August 07 2014 07:03 TMG26 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 04:09 Slaughter wrote: I don't even know what to believe anymore, apparently some characters are beyond death and can just warp out of the afterlife whenever they bloody feel like it. Well, he did had the rinnegan, therefore the six path..
My take on it is that it was one of those 'Inner space chakra delusion mumbo jumbo' that happens pretty often with Naruto... and Obito didn't came back from the afterlife, he just kind of had an epiphany and talked with 'little Kakashi' through chakra transfer/merging. And I was kind of cool with that except for the revelation that you can get crazy eyes that way... wich IMO was quite the asspull.
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as crazy as it sounds the more i think about it the more it makes sense
Kakashi got his Sharingan super early and grew up with it so it makes sense that his body would grow more accustomed to it and more similar to an Uchiha
Nagato explained that those who have the Rinnegan are standing at the border between worlds, plus Obito was the 10 tails Jinchuuriki for a time and had zetsu implanted in it, so all in all he cannot be considered a normal person on any level right now
weve so far seen 3 people exist as "chakra spirits" (the 4th, his wife and the So6P) so if Obito could use some remaining bonus from having the Rinnegan, in addition to his own natural affinity for moving between dimensions its not that wierd that he could also temporarily become a chakra spirit and give Chakra to Kakashi
since Kakashi has already grown up with a Sharingan it wouldnt be wierd if Obitos pure blooded Uchiha chakra melded with Kakashis causing him to awaken his own Sharingan
since Kakashi is the copy ninja his Sharingan could have the special ability of extra powerful copying that he uses to copy Sasukes Susano'o
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well i was thinking kakashi can now copy the future like it said in the end. It could just be a metaphor... like the eye's destiny is to make the future a reality? I don't know. If it was literal, kakashi copied his powers from the future for when he's super powerful? I don't know, that sort of confused me, but sounded cool.
I'm not worried about kakashi not having enough chakra to utilize susanoo since obito's chakra did go into him... and I'm thinking two eyes are just better than one.
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On August 07 2014 12:39 Forikorder wrote: as crazy as it sounds the more i think about it the more it makes sense
Kakashi got his Sharingan super early and grew up with it so it makes sense that his body would grow more accustomed to it and more similar to an Uchiha
Nagato explained that those who have the Rinnegan are standing at the border between worlds, plus Obito was the 10 tails Jinchuuriki for a time and had zetsu implanted in it, so all in all he cannot be considered a normal person on any level right now
weve so far seen 3 people exist as "chakra spirits" (the 4th, his wife and the So6P) so if Obito could use some remaining bonus from having the Rinnegan, in addition to his own natural affinity for moving between dimensions its not that wierd that he could also temporarily become a chakra spirit and give Chakra to Kakashi
since Kakashi has already grown up with a Sharingan it wouldnt be wierd if Obitos pure blooded Uchiha chakra melded with Kakashis causing him to awaken his own Sharingan
since Kakashi is the copy ninja his Sharingan could have the special ability of extra powerful copying that he uses to copy Sasukes Susano'o
Great fanwank but wouldn't it have made more sense if Obito ha utilized Sakuras medical prowess to transfer his eyes before he died? I mean it would've been a way to actually utilize both characters and make them useful to the plot.
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On August 07 2014 13:52 lannisport wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 12:39 Forikorder wrote: as crazy as it sounds the more i think about it the more it makes sense
Kakashi got his Sharingan super early and grew up with it so it makes sense that his body would grow more accustomed to it and more similar to an Uchiha
Nagato explained that those who have the Rinnegan are standing at the border between worlds, plus Obito was the 10 tails Jinchuuriki for a time and had zetsu implanted in it, so all in all he cannot be considered a normal person on any level right now
weve so far seen 3 people exist as "chakra spirits" (the 4th, his wife and the So6P) so if Obito could use some remaining bonus from having the Rinnegan, in addition to his own natural affinity for moving between dimensions its not that wierd that he could also temporarily become a chakra spirit and give Chakra to Kakashi
since Kakashi has already grown up with a Sharingan it wouldnt be wierd if Obitos pure blooded Uchiha chakra melded with Kakashis causing him to awaken his own Sharingan
since Kakashi is the copy ninja his Sharingan could have the special ability of extra powerful copying that he uses to copy Sasukes Susano'o Great fanwank  but wouldn't it have made more sense if Obito ha utilized Sakuras medical prowess to transfer his eyes before he died? I mean it would've been a way to actually utilize both characters and make them useful to the plot. well his body was disentagrating so maybe that wouldnt ahve worked
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On August 07 2014 14:01 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 13:52 lannisport wrote:On August 07 2014 12:39 Forikorder wrote: as crazy as it sounds the more i think about it the more it makes sense
Kakashi got his Sharingan super early and grew up with it so it makes sense that his body would grow more accustomed to it and more similar to an Uchiha
Nagato explained that those who have the Rinnegan are standing at the border between worlds, plus Obito was the 10 tails Jinchuuriki for a time and had zetsu implanted in it, so all in all he cannot be considered a normal person on any level right now
weve so far seen 3 people exist as "chakra spirits" (the 4th, his wife and the So6P) so if Obito could use some remaining bonus from having the Rinnegan, in addition to his own natural affinity for moving between dimensions its not that wierd that he could also temporarily become a chakra spirit and give Chakra to Kakashi
since Kakashi has already grown up with a Sharingan it wouldnt be wierd if Obitos pure blooded Uchiha chakra melded with Kakashis causing him to awaken his own Sharingan
since Kakashi is the copy ninja his Sharingan could have the special ability of extra powerful copying that he uses to copy Sasukes Susano'o Great fanwank  but wouldn't it have made more sense if Obito ha utilized Sakuras medical prowess to transfer his eyes before he died? I mean it would've been a way to actually utilize both characters and make them useful to the plot. well his body was disentagrating so maybe that wouldnt ahve worked Maybe he could have just pulled out his eyes then threw them at Sakura. That'd be more believable.
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People are seriously trying to make sense of Kakashi having two sharingans? XD
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On August 07 2014 15:00 EnumaAvalon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 14:01 Forikorder wrote:On August 07 2014 13:52 lannisport wrote:On August 07 2014 12:39 Forikorder wrote: as crazy as it sounds the more i think about it the more it makes sense
Kakashi got his Sharingan super early and grew up with it so it makes sense that his body would grow more accustomed to it and more similar to an Uchiha
Nagato explained that those who have the Rinnegan are standing at the border between worlds, plus Obito was the 10 tails Jinchuuriki for a time and had zetsu implanted in it, so all in all he cannot be considered a normal person on any level right now
weve so far seen 3 people exist as "chakra spirits" (the 4th, his wife and the So6P) so if Obito could use some remaining bonus from having the Rinnegan, in addition to his own natural affinity for moving between dimensions its not that wierd that he could also temporarily become a chakra spirit and give Chakra to Kakashi
since Kakashi has already grown up with a Sharingan it wouldnt be wierd if Obitos pure blooded Uchiha chakra melded with Kakashis causing him to awaken his own Sharingan
since Kakashi is the copy ninja his Sharingan could have the special ability of extra powerful copying that he uses to copy Sasukes Susano'o Great fanwank  but wouldn't it have made more sense if Obito ha utilized Sakuras medical prowess to transfer his eyes before he died? I mean it would've been a way to actually utilize both characters and make them useful to the plot. well his body was disentagrating so maybe that wouldnt ahve worked Maybe he could have just pulled out his eyes then threw them at Sakura. That'd be more believable.
well he probably couldne even move seems like he got petrified
and if Sakura couldnt even crush one fo his eyes in time i doubt shed be able to remove both
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Disregarding the fact of determining "how" it all happened, I am now onto the train of thought of "why it needed to happen".
Sasuke only has 1 sharingan left because one of his eyes got upgraded.
Since Sasuke has used Susanoo with just 1 sharingan and 1 rinnengan, you can assume that at least 1 sharingan is all you need to summon Susanoo as long as you can do it.
So would giving kakashi 2 sharingan more than likely mean that Kishi wants kakashi to lock Kaguya in an infinite loop reality unless she chooses to change like what Itachi did to Kabuto thus needing him to sacrifice one Sharingan in the process when all is said and done?
I am just thinking out loud here since it appears eye techniques technically work on Kaguya if she allowed them to hit.
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On August 07 2014 16:38 17Sphynx17 wrote: Disregarding the fact of determining "how" it all happened, I am now onto the train of thought of "why it needed to happen".
Sasuke only has 1 sharingan left because one of his eyes got upgraded.
Since Sasuke has used Susanoo with just 1 sharingan and 1 rinnengan, you can assume that at least 1 sharingan is all you need to summon Susanoo as long as you can do it.
So would giving kakashi 2 sharingan more than likely mean that Kishi wants kakashi to lock Kaguya in an infinite loop reality unless she chooses to change like what Itachi did to Kabuto thus needing him to sacrifice one Sharingan in the process when all is said and done?
I am just thinking out loud here since it appears eye techniques technically work on Kaguya if she allowed them to hit. There is one problem with your idea though. I'm pretty sure one of the eyes is able to summon amaterasu and the other is the genjutsu eye. You need to combine the two to actually summon susano'o if I remember correctly. But Kishi has gone of script completely, none of the "rules" of the shinobi world apply anymore ://
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In the last chapter Kishimoto just said that Kakashi is nothing without the sharingan so he, again, gives crazy imba power ups that doesn't make sense.
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